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Archived from Friday, July 10, 2009

Ken Burns joins us to discuss "National Parks: America's Best Idea," airing this fall. Chat with the award-winning filmmaker about his past work and current projects.

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Hello and welcome to the Engage Live Chat series. Today we're talking with award-winning documentary filmmaker Ken Burns. We're happy to have you with us, Ken! Let's get started.
lauren, Omaha, NE: Which of the National Parks or other topic would you have liked to cover, but didn’t have the time to fit into the series?
Ken Burns: Our cutting room floor is filled with good stories that just didn't fit. I would say we left out parks; we just told the complicated historical story we wanted to without being encyclopedic. Having said that there were many many parks and other units of the Parks Service that we didn't get to: Hot Springs in Arkansas and Capitol Reef in Utah to name but two. Remember the movie "Amadeus"? Too many notes.
Natalie Malishenko, Granville, Ohio: What inspired you to develop the National Parks Documentary?
Ken Burns: I've always been interested in how my country works, all of my films have asked the deceptively simeple question, "Who are we?" I think our landscape, that is the physical geography of our country has been most revealing of our character, good and bad, and to my mind the National Parks represents our best selves, a place, at least for this filmmaker, where we can come the closest to deepening that simple question.
Jill Hubbs, Pensacola, Florida: You have produced documentaries on a variety of subjects. How do you decide on your next project? What inspires you to create a documentary?
Ken Burns: I don't have a formal game plan; I just follow my gut. Which idea that is floating around in my head do I really care about. When that idea leaves my head and goes to my heart, that's the one I'm going to do. So far they have all been in American history so I guess that in some way I have unconsciously limited it that way, but once it's a topic on our shared past, then I'm ready. I am mostly inspired by individual stories and lives.
Cherie Daniel, Austin, TX: Do you have any suggestions for teenagers learning how to create their first narrative documentary?
Ken Burns: Film is so popular in schools that I tell students and teachers that they have to be certain they have something to say, that is to say, they have to know themselves and there is no shame in admitting that one doesn't have something to say, and second, that one has to perservere, because especially in documentary it will not be handed to you on a silver platter. After that, the most important thing is to learn how to tell a good story. I have been a filmmakwer for over 35 years and I still feel like a student when it comes to learning how to tell a good story. Once you have that, all else will fall into place and the the laws that govern what is a good story are the same for Hollywood and literature and theater and etc.
Charles Stuckey Jr., Sand Springs, OK: Are you working on a Dust Bowl era documentary and looking for people to interview?
Ken Burns: Yes with my long time collaborator and best friend Dayton Duncan (he and I made the West series, Lewis and Clark, Horatio's Drive, Mark Twain, and most recently the National Parks together). We are definitely looking for people with experiences of the that catastrophy and any photos, movies, letters or other archives that might be useful in putting together a documentary.
Bonnie Jeanne, Pittsburgh, PA: Did you meet any Park Rangers who really knocked your sock off with their enthusiasm and knowledge?
Ken Burns: Everywhere we went, we met extraordinary rangers who made our job so much easier and inspired us daily. They are too numerous to list all, but we were really impressed with Shelton Johnson, an African American ranger who interprets the celegrated Buffalo Soldiers, African-American calvarymen, who were among the parks earliest protectors. He made their fascinating story come alived, as did Gerard Baker, a Mandan Indian, and the first native American superintendant at Mount Rushmore, who sees the story of that monument from a decidedly different perspective. But I don't think we didn't meet a ranger anywhere in the system that wasn't intelligent, generous, inspiring and helpful. A recent survey, subtracting of course our military personnel, said that rangers were by far the most popular of government employees.
Gary Bremen, Wilton Manors, FL: What encouragement can you offer to rangers who are confronted regularly with folks (both in and out of the park) who just don't care?
Ken Burns: There will always be people like that I'm afraid, but I believe they are in the minority. What the rest of us have to do is go and visit this property, which we all co-own, make sure it's being taken care, make sure "our employees" the rangers are being taken care of and then work like mad to see that the parks have enough money to do their job. Write our congressmen, make donations, volunteer, realize that these sacred places are also, as the first director of the Park Service Stephen Mather once said, "vast schoolrooms of Americanism." The parks make us better citizens and the only thing that trulyh threatens them is our apathy and lack of attendance.
Charles Boileau, Montreal, Québec: What does it take to produce a film like The National Parks?
Ken Burns: I think the greatest thing is perseverance. You have to be general managing a fairly large army to make this happen. We’ve been working on this project for 10 years and it involved activities in a variety of areas, finding archival material, shooting live cinematography, interviewing experts, writing the script and reconciling all that in editing.
Tara Downey, Lenexa, KS: I recently rewatched Baseball on MLB. When do you expect to complete the "10th inning"?
Ken Burns: We’re scheduled to finish and broadcast in September 2010.
Amy, Washington, DC: Has working on any of your films completely changed your view/direction as a filmmaker?
Ken Burns: I don’t think any film has changed my direction but I have been so emotionally transformed by nearly every project. Just being involved with the stories of so called ordinary people is a transformational thing.
Thank you for joining us today, Ken. And thank you to the audience for your smart and insightful questions. Feel free to continue the conversation in the Archived Chat section. You can also take a look at Ken's answers to more of your questions on Inside PBS. And don't forget to watch the preview of "National Parks" on PBS Video.
Starred (*) questions have been edited by PBS editors for brevity and/or clarity. The original, unedited question can be found to the right under Audience Questions.

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Arches National Park

Hi Ken, I'm looking forward to seeing this series!! I'm a BIG fan of our National Parks. A quick question if I may. Back in May of 2007 I was in Arches NP photographing Delicate Arch and bumped into a film crew putting together a piece on National Parks for PBS. Just wondering if this was you and your crew?

Good luck with your project,

Mike

National Parks

Mister Burns, I am looking forward to your program on our National Parks. As a child my parents made sure we saw our great country, I have been from the Falls of Niagra to the oceans of California and every where in between. My experience with Niagra Falls was breathtaking to say the least. We could hear the falls from miles away before we ever saw them and the falls themselves were the most fantastic thing I have ever seen. Just imagining what I would see as a small child was nothing in comparison to the vision I saw after days of anticipation. The roar of the water and the distance from the top of the falls to the bottom left me breathless. Then my parents took us to the Ontario side to see the fall and we just couldn't believe that America had such beauty. Then a few years later my parents took us to the Grand Canyon. I remember being so delighted to get to see this grand place that my parents had talked about. When we got there I was afraid to get out of the car, the hole was so big I was afraid it would swollow me up. I remember dad making me get out of the car and when I did my knees just went to jelly. I was so afraid, I remember crawling to the edge!! It was so frightening and yet so magnificent I couldn't help but look over the edge. Only to see a plain that looked so tiny flying in the canyon!! It is truely a magnificent sight. Our country is the most beautiful in the world. I am so glad that you are doing a documentary on our National parks! We have the most spectacular places to visit in the world and I know that only you can tell our story with the beauty and magesty that it deserves!! Thank you for showing our country in the best light possible. A lot of country's don't care for us, but that is just because they don't know how beautiful it really is. We still have the photographs that we took from your visits to the falls, and the grand canyon. We have traveled to the painted desert and the Carlsbad caverns. I know you will make the most fantastic story of our National parks and cant wait to see your production. Only You can do it justice. Thanks for letting the world know just how great our country is!! ...............Thank you Linda Moody. Oklahoma City, Okla

My Years as an Arizona tour guide

I spent several years in the mid 1970's as an Arizona Tour Guide. I had the amazing honor of witnessing people from all over the world as they stood, for the first time, on the rim of the Grand Canyon. Stunned into silence, as this sight can not be properly captured by a measley camera, previously chatty tourists fell into a reverie that I can only describe as divine communinion. I'm not a church goer. Though raised as a Catholic,I have chosen to live my life engaged in the world with my own personal connection to the Creator of all things. People at National Parks,especially the Grand Canyon, no matter their beliefs, all enter the open air cathedrals and all stand in awe of the power of creation. For this reason alone, our National Parks must be protected. They ignite a miniature revolution within each of us that pulls forward our humanity at its best. I had the honor, in my tour guiding days, to act as host to the late Michael Nadel, a gentle soul who was Editor Emeritus of Wilderness Magazine. He was a guest on my very first solo tour and we had many hours of amazing talks about the natural world. We were in a shop on the rim of the canyon and found a beautiful poster they used to sell there with a John Muir quote and that has stayed with me all these long years. Here it is:
"Light. I know not a single word fine enough for Light. Its currents pour, but it is a heavy material word not applicable to holy, beamless, bodiless, inaudible floods of light."

This would be a perfect quote to hear, read by Morgon Freeman, while your cameras sore through light and shadow into the canyon.

I look forward to watching your film. All the best
Mimi DiFrancesca Heberlein
mimidifrancesca@gmail.com

Oklahoma Dust Bowl Documentary

I live in Oklahoma. I hear your announcement on our PBS channel, OETA, about wanting stories from Sooners who lived through the Dust Bowl. I met a man this weekend who qualifies. I have his permission to contact you. His name is Thayer Johnson. He is 80 years old. His family moved to California in 1941, and he still lives there. He had not heard about your documentary, and may contact you himself, but I didn't want him to forget.
Here are his particulars:
Thayer Johnson
3305 Tabora Drive
Antioch CA 94509
aliceandtj@comcast.com

salmon

Mr. Burns,
I live in Anchorage Ak. Having seen enough of your work I think you might enjoy the yearly salmon run. The Ak. run starts late spring on the Copper River. From there it progresses north. Forget the commercial fisherman. Take a good look at the celebration and disappointment of the subsistence fishery. These people celebrate the return of brother fish. All races of the state who have been a resident of one year or more fish. Together we fish. It is hard work. I often describe a good run as circus maximus. I think this is something that would make a good film. You would enjoy seeing this with you friends.
Thank you,
Steve

The DustBowl project

A friend of mine (85 years old) has experiences to share and is wondering if you are offering any compensation to those who help you with this material. Thank you.

The Oklahoma Dust Bowl documentary

I am posting this comment as a means of providing Mr. Ken Burns a contact of a person who lived, experienced and survived the Dust Bowl days of the 1930's in the Oklahoma panhandle.

That person is my mother, Margaret Lindley, who was born September 4, 1921 at the Long Farms, which is located 4 miles north of Optima, Oklahoma. This farm location is in Texas County Oklahoma of the Oklahoma panhandle.

She has excellent photos of the clouds of the dirt that often came rolling in during the 1930's. She also has some interesting stories that she can share about those days of her life. She still lives at the farm location 4 miles north of Optima,Oklahoma.

She will be 87 years old this September 4, 2009. Her phone number is 580-652-2672. I have also provide this information to PBS channel OETA in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

Mr. Burns your numerous documentaries and historical DVD's, have always been enlighting and informative about the lands and nation in which we live, as well as the peoples who live here in this great nation.

I hope your interviews with people who have survived the 1930's and Dust Bowl days will provide the authenticity you are wanting to present in this documentary about the era of the Dust Bowl days.

Sincerely,
Phil Lindley
1513 S. Parker St.
Amarillo, Texas 79102

Dust Bowl

My mother also lived threw this time. She was born in Oklahoma. My mother has a video tape of pictures and films that was made by a man she knowes from New Mexico I believe. She also has a life time of stories ans exoeriences about the Dust Bowl era. Please contact me and I can arrange the info. Thank-you, Gary R. Roles. Pueblo,Colorado

future projects

When do you expect that you'll finally get around to doing a film on the period of reconstruction? It remains to this day one of the most misunderstood yet crutially significant chapters of our national history.

Dust Bowl documentary

My grandmother is 104 this year and lived in the Denver area during the Dust Bowl years. She is mentally alert and remembers a treasure trove of information regarding the 1930's in Denver as well as many other things. I have mentioned the documentary to her and she wouldn't mind if you spoke to her. She is currently residing in southern California. Should you want to contact this remarkable woman, please contact me via email and I will give you the phone number to call her directly. Thank you.

special places

Dearest Mr. Burns,
You are an extraordinary filmmaker, and I truly appreciate your incredible contribution to the cultural awareness that our country has been endowed with by your films about our nation's history. However, Americans today also need to know about the special places that still need to be set aside today for future generations to enjoy. These America lands are treasures that belong not only to the living today, but to those not yet born. These lands rival the most amazing parks, monuments and other protected use designations set by our Federal and State governments.
We cannot be satisfied with the actions of previous generations to protect these amazing American lands that belong to all of us, and would thoughtlessly be obliterated by the greed of a small minority. Today's remaining dwindling subset of natural spaces, which are pressured by the forces of exploitation of the ever-growing requirements of the extractive industries, also need to be documented by a visual artist and story teller of your extraordinary vision. It is my sincere hope that your next project will focus on the natural America that Theodore Roosevelt never saw, but would be astonished to know still exists in our modern nation, before all of it is vanquished to industrial mining practices solely to benefit the corporate motives of a selfish few.

Thanks again for the beauty and truth with which you have endowed our society. Please contact me at http://www.ourcolorado.org to learn more about these places that we must preserve for future generations.

preview

Monday, September 14, 2009.
This has nothing to do with the fact that I came from a memorial service for an older friend this afternoon or the fact that I’ll be attending my forty fifth high school reunion this weekend; but the coming of this reunion and the passing of my friend has got me to thinking about my own life. (So I guess it has something to do with it .) What really got me thinking about my age was watching the preview of the National Park documentary by Ken Burns. When I grew up, camping in northern Wisconsin was our family vacation. Those camping trips are the best memories of my childhood. A few months ago I found the lake we camped on, on Google Earth. Even though it’s 55 yers later I can’t tell you the name of the lake because the fishing and the beach sand and clear water were so great, I still want to keep it a secret. And now I’m getting close to the time I should retire and like many others, my retirement funds went backward instead of forward. So I’m planning to work a few years longer. After watching the National Parks preview, I got a little depressed. I have been an outdoors person all my life and I began thinking that if I had to work until seventy, would I still be able to see all the Parks that I haven’t been to? I don’t know. I’ve been to many of the famous Parks in the West and a few in the East but there is so much more to see. I’m really looking forward to the show, but know that if I don’t have the time or ablilty to see more Parks it will be the biggest disappointment of my life.
Gary Stonewall

Dust Bowl Excellent true story

Please look up the story on Sloans Lake. Edgewater, Colorado. Wonderful
true story how farmer Sloan went out to dig a well on his treeless land. 150 years ago and hit an underground aquifer and 200 acres of water came up over nite. Well documented see the Library in Denver Re: Sloans Lake AKA: Sloans Leak Great story. Could make an entire documentary.
Most locals have long forgotten. Still
gushing 150 years latter.

Truly interesting!!!!
Love you Documentaries!
GodBlessYou Karen

Wonderful, but....

Mr. Burns your documentary series have been an essential part of our family's carefully considered television viewing. Countless hours of discussion, emotional bonding, and education of later generations are always part of the Ken Burns experience. However, I've noted on several of your promotional appearances for the Parks series an unnecessary political commentary. If you started your research and initial production 10 yrs. ago...and filmed over the past 6 yrs. any decline that you found in the parks' condition wouldn't be the result of the last administration's policies. Given the timeframe, any decline would more likely have been the result of an administration prior to the past 8 yrs. That said...why the insertion of political commentary to begin with? When I heard of this documentary I was quite excited...but when I listened to your comments on Letterman and again this morning on Martha Stewart, I'm less inclined to view this series, not wanting to listen to what I now suspect is going to be content tainted by the childish, relentless snarking about the last administration by the left. Am pretty surprised and disappointed by Mr. Burns' positioning of what should be a wonderful story.