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<summary><![CDATA[The irony was deliberate when Steve Outing&nbsp;and Steve Kearsley&nbsp;soft-launched their new online comic strip, techGRL, a week ago today. It's a humor site, yes, but the goal -- "not just a comic strip, but also an online community"&nbsp;-- was no&nbsp;April Fools joke.Reinventing comics online is an expanding arena. Mark Fiore&nbsp;and other talented folks have been blazing digital paths to revive a once-tired form. Adding online community is a natural extension of going digital.Before I continue, several disclosures: Steve Outing (pictured at left) is a longtime associate and friend in the online journalism world. He's written about my work, and vice...]]></summary>
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<![CDATA[The irony was deliberate when <a href="http://www.steveouting.com/">Steve Outing</a>&nbsp;and <a href="http://www.stevekearsley.com/">Steve Kearsley</a>&nbsp;soft-launched their new online comic strip, <a href="http://techgrl.com/">techGRL</a>, a week ago today. It's a humor site, yes, but the <a href="http://techgrl.com/about/">goal</a> -- "not just a comic strip, but also an online community"&nbsp;-- was no&nbsp;April Fools joke.<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"></span><div><br /></div><div>Reinventing comics online is an expanding arena. <a href="http://www.markfiore.com/">Mark Fiore</a>&nbsp;and other talented folks have been blazing digital paths to revive a once-tired form. Adding online community is a natural extension of going digital.</div><div><div><br /></div><img alt="steveouting.jpg" src="http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2008/04/08/steveouting.jpg" class="mt-image-left" style="margin: 0pt 20px 20px 0pt; float: left;" height="96" width="78" /><div>Before I continue, several disclosures: Steve Outing (pictured at left) is a longtime associate and friend in the online journalism world. He's written about my work, and vice versa. I also was an investor in his now-closed company, the Enthusiast Group.</div><div><br /></div><div>Needless to say, I empathize with Outing, having had a business letdown of my own, a failure that taught me more than just about anything I've ever done. Steve has jumped back on the horse, I'm glad to see, with this new project.</div><div><br /></div><div>In a conversation today about the new comic site and other current work -- which includes consulting on an as-yet unveiled venture to help newspapers regain some of the classified advertising revenues they've lost in recent years (ahem, good luck...) -- Outing described some of the ideas behind techGRL.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>He and Kearsley worked together on the San Francisco Chronicle years ago, both in the art department. Their collaboration on techGRL is classic comic-strip talent-sharing -- Kearsley draws it and they work together on the dialogue -- plus social dimensions.</div><div><br /></div><div>The look of the strips, currently published Mondays and Thursdays, is what you'd see in any newspaper, and that's no coincidence. "It&nbsp;would be great if we got syndicate deal," Outing says. But the syndicated strip field is "incredibly competitive, so we're not counting on it."</div><div><br /></div><div>The innovation, he hopes, is in the team's adding of conversational and social media to the mix. A Facebook application is in the works, for example. And each strip has its own blog posting, "written" by Lexie, the 15-year-old lead character. "This&nbsp;gives readers a way to get to know the character. beyond just the 10 seconds they might spend looking" at the strip, Outing says.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Which raises the obvious question: What do two middle-aged men know about the lives of teenaged girls? That was the first question someone named Jill asked on Outing's personal blog when he <a href="http://www.steveouting.com/introducing-techgrlcom-the-comic-reinvented.html">announced</a> the project. Here's part of <a href="http://www.intensedebate.com/users/4675">his response</a> (from a third-party commenting site that serves comments on his blog):</div><div><br /></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="border: medium none ; margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 40px; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">Despite the name, the comic is not just about "techGRL." "Lexi" is our 15-year-old main character (coincidentally the age of my oldest daughter), but her dad is a David Pogue-like tech reviewer who brings a lot of technology into the household, and he's an equally important character. So we think it's broader than being "just" a teen girl comic. We'll have both teen and technology themes.</span></blockquote><div><div><br /></div><div>Some of the characters are "real people in our lives," Outing says. And visitors to the site are invited to <a href="http://techgrl.com/become-a-character/">become characters themselves</a>&nbsp;via a survey, and to help create other new characters.</div><div><br /></div><div>There's much more at the site; take a look for yourself.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>What's the business model, assuming there is one? It's unclear. Certainly advertising may play a role, especially if the site takes off in any remotely serious way; teenaged girls spend a lot of money in this country and are a much-favored demographic. Perhaps tech-oriented dads will also become faithful readers.</div><div><br /></div><div>But this time around, bootstrapping, not investor financing, is the way of making it all happen. It doesn't cost much to try these days, and that's a big advantage for creative folks.</div><div><br /></div><hr width="50%"><div><br /></div><div>As noted, Steve Outing's last venture didn't work out financially. When he and his partners decided to shut down the business, he posted a long and extraordinarily thoughtful analysis of what happened from his perspective -- and, vitally, his lessons learned about citizen media -- on the Editor &amp; Publisher website, where it now languishes behind the E&amp;P paywall. (<a href="http://www.steveouting.com/my-stuff/an-important-lesson-about-grassroots-media/">Read it here</a> instead.)</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">(Photo from <a href="http://steveouting.com/">steveouting.com</a>)</span></div></div></div><div><br /></div>]]>

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Dan: Thanks for the mention of techGRL. Just to further address the &quot;what do two middle-aged men know about the lives of teenage girls?&quot; issue, besides me having two daughters, 10 and 15, to glean material from (Steve has 3 boys), we&apos;ve recruited a young woman with an acting background to be the voice of the main character. We&apos;re really early into this so she hasn&apos;t even appeared yet, but the idea is to make Lexi a quasi-real character, who blogs and podcasts (and maybe more).

We think that the social aspect of techGRL will offer some real innovation, and in time we&apos;ll turn some of our most enthusiastic readers/fans into characters; they define the personality, interests and quirks (and we draw).

The newspaper comic form has stayed pretty static for a long time, with a few pioneers like Mark Fiore pushing the envelope. But young people don&apos;t much read newspapers anymore. They do hang out on Facebook, MySpace, et al where they participate, not just read content. So we think there&apos;s ample room for engaging them where they live, and with a form of comic art that&apos;s more in tune with how they live.
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