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<summary>Ricardo and I agreed on four priorities, in the order below, for our work on the Includer and marginal Internet access: What would you like to share online? What is our business value? What are new technical solutions? What technical skills might we encourage?</summary>
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<![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/learnhowtolearn/message/328" mce_href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/learnhowtolearn/message/328">Ricardo and I spoke by phone</a> for ninety minutes about our laboratory's strategy for the <a href="http://www.includer.org/" mce_href="http://www.includer.org">Includer</a> and making the most of limited Internet access in Africa.</p>
<p>Thank you to our African participants - <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Samwel_Kongere" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Samwel_Kongere">Samwel Kongere</a>, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Kennedy_Owino" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Kennedy_Owino">Kennedy Owino</a>, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Fred_Kayiwa" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Fred_Kayiwa">Fred Kayiwa</a>, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Peter_Ongele" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Peter_Ongele">Peter Ongele</a>, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Kofi_Thompson" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Kofi_Thompson">Kofi Thompson</a>, James Njunge, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=William_Wambura" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=William_Wambura">William Wambura</a>, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Actwid_Kongadzem" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Actwid_Kongadzem">Wendi Losha Bernadette</a>, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Joseph_Runnel_Lule" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Joseph_Runnel_Lule">Joseph Runnel Lule</a>, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Betty_Kyewa" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Betty_Kyewa">Betty Kyewa</a>, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Josephat_Ndibalema" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Josephat_Ndibalema">Josephat Ndibalema</a> and many more! - for giving our <a href="http://www.ms.lt/" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt">Minciu Sodas</a> laboratory such great vitality around the world.</p>
<p>We're impressed at your enthusiasm to overcome challenges -
traveling miles to the Internet cafe by foot, bus or taxi - paying $1
an hour or $100 a month - waiting your turn, suffering power outages,
slow bandwidth, worrying about coming home safe at night.</p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="dogoteethteam.jpg" src="http://www.pbs.org/idealab/dogoteethteam.jpg" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" height="270" width="360" /></span><br /><p>One year ago I asked for our help to work on a <i><a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?FlashDriveEditor" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?FlashDriveEditor">flash drive editor</a></i>,
a device for our African participants at home to read and write emails
stored on their USB flash drives, so they could upload and download
them later at an Internet cafe. We now call this the <a href="http://www.includer.org/" mce_href="http://www.includer.org"><i>Includer</i></a>. This endeavor is fantastic and strategic in that it helps us appreciate the importance of <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Endeavors" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Endeavors">many related endeavors</a> and <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Includer" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Includer">make progress on them all</a>. Similarly, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Marcin_Jakubowski" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Marcin_Jakubowski">Marcin Jakubowski's</a> <a href="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=329" mce_href="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=329">open source tractor</a> is a "keystone species" for a whole "ecosystem" of endeavors in <a href="http://www.openfarmtech.org/blog/" mce_href="http://www.openfarmtech.org/blog/">appropriate technology</a>.</p>
<p>What have we achieved in this year? Our greatest success is that <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Ricardo" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Ricardo">Ricardo</a> is with us. I learned of Ricardo through <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sneakernet" mce_href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sneakernet">his <i>Sneakernet</i> page at the OLPC wiki</a>. Ricardo is a software engineer in the UK. He works with <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Samwel_Kongere" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Samwel_Kongere">Samwel Kongere</a>, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Dan_Otedo" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Dan_Otedo">Dan Otedo</a>, <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=David_Mutua" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=David_Mutua">David Mutua</a> to set up <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?InternetAccessTechnologies" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?InternetAccessTechnologies">Internet access centers</a>. He sent <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?ObtainingComputers" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?ObtainingComputers">refurbished laptops</a> to <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?LaptopUsersGroup" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?LaptopUsersGroup">many of our lab's participants</a>. He solves and documents <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Ricardo" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Ricardo">technical challenges</a> such as <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?InternetAccessByMobilePhone" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?InternetAccessByMobilePhone">how to get online with a phone</a>. He is organizing <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?TradingElectronicItems" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?TradingElectronicItems">trading clubs</a> and helping <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Kenneth_Chelimo" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Kenneth_Chelimo">Kenneth Chelimo</a> and others get established on PayPal and eBay. He has written <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Ricardo" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Ricardo">dozens of pages at our wiki</a> and made very concrete the technical options (<a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?BluetoothPhoneIncluderLatestSystem" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?BluetoothPhoneIncluderLatestSystem">Bluetooth</a>, <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?PdaIncluder" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?PdaIncluder">PDA</a>, <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?LaptopMotherboardIncluder" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?LaptopMotherboardIncluder">laptop motherboard</a> and so on) for us to pursue for our <a href="http://www.includer.org/" mce_href="http://www.includer.org">Includer</a>.</p>
<p>I won a <a href="http://www.newschallenge.org/the_includer" mce_href="http://www.newschallenge.org/the_includer">2008 Knight News Challenge Award</a> to <a href="http://www.pbs.org/idealab/andrius_kulikauskas_1/" mce_href="http://www.pbs.org/idealab/andrius_kulikauskas_1/">blog about the Includer at the PBS website</a>. Thanks to an idea from <a href="http://www.nothingtodeclare.com/stories.php?topic=169" mce_href="http://www.nothingtodeclare.com/stories.php?topic=169">Barry Dobyns</a>, I wrote <a href="http://www.includer.org/presentation/" mce_href="http://www.includer.org/presentation/">a proposal that online services fund us to develop offline versions</a>. I am very glad for <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Ed_Prentice" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Ed_Prentice">Ed Prentice's</a> help from <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?SiliconValley" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?SiliconValley">Silicon Valley</a>, and also I had lunch with <a href="http://christiancrumlish.com/" mce_href="http://christiancrumlish.com">Christian Crumlish</a> of <a href="http://www.yahoo.com/" mce_href="http://www.yahoo.com">Yahoo!</a> and <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/15/300" mce_href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/15/300">Charles Warren</a> at <a href="http://www.google.com/" mce_href="http://www.google.com">Google</a>. The world is definitely moving towards <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_netbooks" mce_href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_netbooks">simpler laptops</a> and <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?EBookReader" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?EBookReader">e-book readers</a>. Yet I haven't been able to make the <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Prospects" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Prospects">needed contacts</a> to take the Includer closer to reality.</p>
<p>The challenges for our Includer are:</p>
<ul><li> The market for the Includer is a moving target. Many people might
benefit from the Includer, but typically, within a year or two or
three, they will have moved on to have <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?BuyingOldLaptops" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?BuyingOldLaptops">their own laptop</a> and <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?InternetAccessByMobilePhone" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?InternetAccessByMobilePhone">Internet access</a>. <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Franz_Nahrada" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Franz_Nahrada">Franz Nahrada</a> and I observed in <a href="http://www.dorfwiki.org/wiki.cgi?ERDE/BezenyeViennaMeeting" mce_href="http://www.dorfwiki.org/wiki.cgi?ERDE/BezenyeViennaMeeting">Hungary</a> a similar challenge with <a href="http://www.euta.hu/" mce_href="http://www.euta.hu">telecottages</a>,
which are very meaningful when nobody has Internet, but within two or
three years they generate a demand for Internet at home, which can make
the telecottages not so relevant.</li><li> We don't have a leader in Africa to champion the Includer. We know
from our African participants that it's a worthwhile idea. But they are
finding ways to <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?ObtainingComputers" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?ObtainingComputers">get computers</a> and <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?InternetAccessTechnologies" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?InternetAccessTechnologies">get online</a> (often thanks to <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Ricardo" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Ricardo">Ricardo</a>!) So we have to consider who in Africa cares about the Includer and why.</li><li> I haven't been able to make <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Prospects" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Prospects">corporate contacts</a> with budgets who might pay us to develop interfaces or to <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Proposals" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Proposals">organize large global teams</a>. I spent <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?SiliconValley" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?SiliconValley">five weeks in Silicon Valley</a>
but didn't get very far. However, we are getting more participants
there. We need a corporate strategy - if there was a company with five
Minciu Sodas participants, then we would surely get paid work. If we
keep writing <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Endeavors" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Endeavors">our dreams</a> and identifying <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Prospects" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Prospects">who we'd like to work for</a>, then we can work across our network to make the links (through <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/" mce_href="http://www.linkedin.com/">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/" mce_href="http://www.facebook.com/">FaceBook</a>, events) and organize independent thinkers in corporations.</li><li> We don't have a <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?HardwareTeam" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?HardwareTeam">hardware team</a> or even a <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?SoftwareTeam" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?SoftwareTeam">software team</a>. We'd like to have students, retirees or other enthusiasts who we could send <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?ProcessorModule" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?ProcessorModule">hardware parts</a>
to for trying out small projects. There's a lot of software that we
could develop and try out. We also need a project leader. Ricardo
doesn't want to make that commitment.</li></ul><br /><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="pamelajudging.jpg" src="http://www.pbs.org/idealab/pamelajudging.jpg" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" height="480" width="360" /></span><p>I thanked Ricardo and asked him what he's found most fun and meaningful. He's very excited about his work with <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Pamela_McLean" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=Pamela_McLean">Pamela McLean</a> and <a href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=John_Dada" mce_href="http://www.ms.lt/news.php?thinker=John_Dada">John Dada</a>. Pamela is traveling in <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Nigeria" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Nigeria">Nigeria</a> and she is forming <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Camera" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Camera">digital camera</a>
clubs there. Ricardo is preparing a photo editing course for them.
Ricardo is a photography enthusiast. Pamela has linked a class in <a href="http://www.peopleandplace.co.uk/index.php/childrenscc" mce_href="http://www.peopleandplace.co.uk/index.php/childrenscc">a Nigerian school</a> with <a href="http://www.peopleandplace.co.uk/index.php/whitecliffe" mce_href="http://www.peopleandplace.co.uk/index.php/whitecliffe">Steve Thompson's class</a>
at his school in the UK. Everyday they are exchanging a photo and a
caption, showing to each other their everyday lives. This is very
exciting and shows how <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?DavidMutua" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?DavidMutua">David Mutua</a> and others at <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?TeachersTalking" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?TeachersTalking">Teachers Talking</a> are reaching out to include other Africans into our online world.</p>
<p>Ricardo and I agreed on four priorities, in the order below, for our work on the Includer and marginal Internet access:</p>
<ol><li>What would you like to share online? We want to encourage our African online experts to reach out and include more people. <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?WilliamWambura" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?WilliamWambura">William Wambura</a> in <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Tanzania" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Tanzania">Tanzania</a> teaches the <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Child" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Child">children</a>. <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?FredKayiwa" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?FredKayiwa">Fred Kayiwa</a> in <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Uganda" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Uganda">Uganda</a> leads <a href="http://www.onehelpinganother.com/?page_id=25" mce_href="http://www.onehelpinganother.com/?page_id=25">a soccer team</a> and has <a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/socialagriculture/message/970" mce_href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/socialagriculture/message/970">relatives in the village</a>. <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?WendiLoshaBernadette" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?WendiLoshaBernadette">Wendi Losha Bernadette</a> links us with <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?ActwidKongadzem" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?ActwidKongadzem">women</a> in <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Cameroon" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Cameroon">Cameroon</a>. <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?SamwelKongere" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?SamwelKongere">Samwel Kongere</a> is <a href="http://www.friendsofrusingaisland.org/" mce_href="http://www.friendsofrusingaisland.org/">training women at an ICT center</a> in <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Kenya" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Kenya">Kenya</a>.
Involving them would make our network much more valuable. How would
they like to participate online? What groups would they like to engage?
What kind of software or hardware innovations would be helpful?</li><li>What
is the business value of such people with marginal Internet access? Who
might value our work as individuals or large teams? What can we do
useful online and offline? What markets might we foster?</li><li>What are new technical solutions that we might develop and promote? Ricardo thinks of many, including <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Broadcast" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?Broadcast">broadcasting data by FM radio</a> from community radio stations (I note also <a href="http://www.oneworld.com/" mce_href="http://www.oneworld.com">One World</a>), or having a large display that works with <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?BluetoothPhoneIncluderLatestSystem" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?BluetoothPhoneIncluderLatestSystem">a mobile phone by Bluetooth</a> (see <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?JeffHawkins" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?JeffHawkins">Jeff Hawkins's</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Foleo" mce_href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Foleo">Foleo</a> and also <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netbook" mce_href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netbook">netbooks</a>, there are <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_netbooks" mce_href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_netbooks">more than twenty of them</a>).</li><li>What technical skills (<a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?AssemblingComputers" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?AssemblingComputers">hardware</a>, <a href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?ICTTraining" mce_href="http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?ICTTraining">software</a>) might we encourage in Africa and around the world? for building Includers or even <a href="http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=LifeTrac" mce_href="http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=LifeTrac">open source tractors</a>? and how might we help and organize open source hardware makers?</li></ol>



<p>I encourage us to write about all of the above, but especially
reaching out and including those further out. Our next step is to <a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/learnhowtolearn/message/267" mce_href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/learnhowtolearn/message/267">survey our African participants</a> about how they access the Internet. I am still looking for a smart way to set that up online. I have set up a <a href="http://worknets.ning.com/" mce_href="http://worknets.ning.com">Ning social networking site</a> which I invite us to join. I will try to set up the survey there (I found this <a href="http://glowday.com/ning" mce_href="http://glowday.com/ning">software</a>).
Then we will know the kinds of people we are reaching out to, the kinds
of uses for the Includer, and the different kinds of Includers we might
work to develop.</p>
<p>Thank you all for inspiring us and including us!</p><br />]]>

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<title>Comment from Franz Nahrada on 2008-10-03</title>
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Andrius, 

how clear is it that the includer could be built on Open Hardware Design? Could the includer be an example of community led, business supported development?

I did not see this explicitely stated, but maybe that ambiguity could constitute an obstacle. OHD is just in its infancy, but there are some very interesting products in the making.

To see a very good backgrounder on the subject go to http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Design
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Franz, Thank you, Yes, Open Source Hardware (and Software) is very relevant for our Includer vision.  It was part of our proposal to the Knight Foundation, especially the idea of local assembly, and value of the human network that it engenders.  

Engaging manufacturers and organizing the Open Source Hardware community is a business opportunity that our lab could pursue, especially in conjunction with Marcin Jakubowski&apos;s innovative work at Factor E Farm http://www.openfarmtech.org
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<published>2008-10-03T18:43:55Z</published>
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<title>Comment from Andrius Kulikauskas on 2008-10-07</title>
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Fred Kayiwa, October 3
http://www.onehelpinganother.com
posted at http://www.includer.org/?p=7#comments

Am so proud with the Includer Project
To me i have learnt alot
with my telent club kids
Thanks To Ricardo for his support here
Now we have the ECLD and we are starting learning Computer knowledge easily
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<published>2008-10-07T11:27:27Z</published>
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