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07/17/2009
I am so disappointed to read some of the feedback posted by people from People's Republic of China. I know for sure those writers were hired by Communist Regime to brainwash the clear mind of western people. There is no country in the world could persecute, kill, and treat its people so harshly like North Korea. However, there is only one exception, which is China, People's Republic. Please do not forget the Great Culture Revolution, the Tiananman Crackdown on Students, persecution of religious believers, and so many happening now. I feel ashamed of Chinese soldiers, and I am not surprised at all, Chinese soldiers treat North Koreans like that, because Chinese soldiers also treat its citizens the same.
07/17/2009
Cheng Shimeng
Beijing
Yes the fate of the defectors are thrilling but overall this documentary is misleading and failed to dig into the reason why China does not favor the passing of North Koreans. Under the current situation, only few North Koreans can seek asylum in Seoul so they generously accept them. But if China open the passway, will Seoul or other countries willing to accept 300k or more refugees encouraged by the situation? What if half of the population in NK wants to leave their country? These people will only end up living illegally in China, causing enormous social problems in an already densely populated country.
And speaking of humanitarian, if the people in "the free world" want to do something, simply SEND RICE and forget about the missiles! NK leaders will continue the weapon trials no matter what will happened to their people. If NK has enough food, a larger proportion of the population will eventually get a piece to keep the regime from collapse. This is more efficient than trying to smuggle some lucky ones out.
And of all the donors of NK, China has been for years the biggest one and of course we deserved the Olympics (and we did a good one). North Korea is an internationally recognized complex political and human right problem that for several decades the world has failed to solve. I am surprised to see people trying to use the Olympics for pushing one flawed solution to this complexity and acted as if their country has never lead to one civilian fatality in IRAQ, in the name of "establishing democracy".
Trying to block the Olympics in China will only provoke adverse attitude among we Chinese who are traditionally friendly with North Koreans. It is a shame and humiliation to the wisdom of ordinary people to come up with such a biased documentary.
10/20/06
Denver, CO
The lack of historic knowledge in this post is shameful. Read major historical books and you will understand the major role that China played in the Korean war. The Soviet Union did have a large role but compared to the Chinese is like comparing the Soviet role and China in Vietnam (Moa despised Ho Chi Minh). Mao himself helped orchestrate the North Korean war. China as a country should be more merciful than any other country around because of the hardships it went through in the Cultural Revolution but their foreign policiy will continue to be hands off. They need the North Korean regime. China is starting to see though that they need a stable North Korea as a buffer b/t the 'west'. They are trying to see what is the best way to stabilize the country. Mass immigrants to strain the peasant population might not be what they are looking for. I disagree with the lack of humanitarian aid but China does provide a major source of food and oil to DPRK that probably perpetuates the problem. China needs to do more not only for the North Koreans but also for themself. China has the opportunity to show humanity to its people and the rest of the world.
8/10/06
New York, NY
This documentary only shows the story from a very limited angle. It never shows the historic reason for the suffering of Korean people. The problem is caused by United States and Soviet Union after World War II. The super powers are most interested in gaining power in eastern Asia. The well being of the Korean people was never their top concern. They split a country into two for their own interests. Why is China now held responsible to solve a problem caused by the Soviet Union and United States? Why isn't there a voice to get countries such as U.S., Russia and Japan to repay the suffering they caused to the people of Korea?
7/5/06
MLB
Chicago, IL
I think that the South Korean government should do more to help the NK refugees. There were some questions that were asking why the SK government open their borders to the refugees. I think one of the reasons is that the DMZ that separates the North and South is one of the heavily fortified with hundreds of thousands of NK soldiers on patrol. The DMZ is also known as the worlds most landmined area.
Is this used as an excuse for the SK gov't to stand behind when questioned about their willingness to open their borders? All I know is that we should do more to end the suffering. Children eating bugs off the muddy street is an image that breaks my heart.
5/24/06
Lynn Li
People's Republic of Chin
I am a native Chinese(and I believe in Communism).
After seeing this documentary I was deadly sad about the terrible situation from which those North Koreans are suffering. After all, despite of ideological debates, Political leaders--might they be Presidents or Dictators--have the obligation to feed their people and let them live happily and freely.
The Kim Jong Il administration should undoubtly be blamed for its incompetence to give its citizens enough food and human rights. Also, the UN and other countries should be urged to provide more aids to the poor country, instead of imposing economic crack-downs in vain.
They, especially China, should also strive to persuade Kim to be less cruel to his people. As a Communist, Kim should be aware that the Maoist style is not feasible to bring happiness to the nation. He should follow the Teng Shiao-Ping way---bringing Capitalism to the impoverished country. Communism should not stand for poverty, dictatorship, Non-Capitalism and non-democracy.
As a Chinese, I feel sad when seeing my country's soldiers arrest the poor defectors from NK. I feel heartbroken when knowing that the fate awaits those arrested defectors is tortures and deaths.
But I think we Chinese have no choice. The world well knows that the friendly relationship between us and North Korea is crucial in solving many problems. For the sake of world peace, we do not want, and we are not expected, to break that relationship. Also, it is not wise to anoy the nervous Dear Leader of a nuclear neighbor.
China is making efforts. Believe me.
5/24/06
I AM, AS WELL, A KOREAN GIRL AND JEWISH TOO. THESE PEOPLE ARE MY FAMILY. AND IF I DON'T LISTEN TO THEM I'M MURDERING THEM AS WELL AS MYSELF. I WANT TO START A LETTER-WRITTING CAMPAIGN AND I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. I NEED TO SEND OUT THE WORD ABOUT NORTH KOREA.
ANYONE WHO'S VISITED THIS SITE- TELL. TELL EVERYONE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN NORTH KOREA- FROM YOUR FRIENDS TO FAMILY TO THE GUY IN THE GROCERY STORE. THEN THEY'LL SPREAD THE WORD AND THE PROBLEM WILL BECOME A BIT MORE KNOWN.
5/24/06
Shayna
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE. THERE IS NO REASON ON THIS EARTH THAT ANYONE SHOULD PUT UP WITH SUCH LIVES. AFTER WATCHING THIS DOCUMENTARY, I REALIZE HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO BE AN AMERICAN. NONE OF US HAS EVER HAD TO SCROUNGE FOR BUGS TO EAT. NONE OF US HAS EVER HAD TO LIE LOW AND LET THEIR RIGHTS GET TRAMPLED ON. NONE OF US KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE STRIPPED OF YOUR RIGHTS, TO BE TOLD YOU'RE JUST SOME DIRT TO BE KICKED AROUND. WE ARE ALL BLIND TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE SOME IN NEED, AND YET WE IGNORE THEM.
AND AS FOR CHINA GETTING TO HOST THE OLYMPICS??! THEY SHOULD GO AND PUT THEIR HEADS IN THE GROUND IF THEY'RE JUST GOING TO STAND THERE AND HELP MURDER THE NORTH KOREANS. I KNEW ABOUT THIS BEFORE BUT NOW IT HAS BEEN A HUNDRED TIMES INTENSIFIED. BUT IF I WANT TO HELP THE NORTH KOREANS, I SHOULD PUT THIS ANGER, THIS SHAME, THIS CRISIS INTO WORDS FOR OUR GOVERNMENT. WE SEE CHINA A LOT NOW, SO LET'S TELL THEM TO GET THEIR HEADS OUT OF THE DIRT AND HELP THE NORTH KOREANS!!!!!!!!
5/24/06
Aime
Victoria, Australia
Living as I do in relative comfort in Australia, I was naturally shocked at the documentary 'Seoul Train." One thing I didn't grasp, or may have missed, is just why North Korean people flee to China when they might be better off going to South Korea instead. Also, has any attempt been made to get these people out of Korea entirely as most would do very well for themselves in places such as Australia.
5/23/06
Melbourne Australia
I was not aware until I saw this documentary and my heart cried out.
Yes, I would risk my life to help these people. At the moment I am studying to become a Migration Agent, which will allow me to assist applicants with their refugee.humanitarian, applications.
China should be ashamed to host any sort of games.
5/23/06
Melbourne Australia
I was not aware until I saw this documentary and my heart cried out.
Yes, I would risk my life to help these people. At the moment I am studying to become a Migration Agent, which will allow me to assist applicants with their refugee.humanitarian, applications.
China should be ashamed to host any sort of games.
5/12/06
San Antonio, Texas
Ever since my children were able to read, they realized that just about every tiny label in the back or underneath their toys said:" Made in China". Why is it that the United States has such a huge trading contract with China? After watching this program there is no excuse for the Chinese government as to the cruel and ruthless way it treats the people who live around its country but also within it. Why is it that the eyes of the world leaders and politicians and citizens have become blind to this crisis and our ears have become mute?? Why do we continue to trade with such a ruthless dictatorship?? Why do we as citizens of the world tolerate this?? Although our governments are partially responsible for allowing this to happen, it is us the citizens of the world who are to blame for these unjustices. I for one will write to my President and Congress men and women and as a mother I will continue to teach my children to respect and care one another and be responsible consumers. Thank you for presenting such a program and my prayers and heart go to all the people in the world who suffer so much.
5/10/06
Jennifer Shih
Taipei, Taiwan
Yesterday (May 9, '06) marks the FIRST time that Seoul Train is screened in Asia (at Int'l Public TV Screening Conference in Taipei), and I had the honor to translate for the film director during the discussion after the screening.
I remember sitting in the simultaneous interpretation booth with the microphone on-- only to find myself at a complete loss for words. My translation partner was unable to take over because he too was trying to choke back his tears.
We would like to thank the film crew for making such a heart-moving and truth-revealing documentary. It was my honor and privilege to have offered my service for a good cause. In Asia where many art forms are highly politicized and manipulated, the sensitive subject of Seoul Train is bound to cause considerable controversy, as the director recognized himself during discussion. The film nevertheless reminds us of how easy it is for international community to cowardly murmurs its indignation and falls silent.
3/24/06
Washington, DC
I went to an event sponsored by an organization called LINK (Liberation in North Korea) and saw SEOUL TRAIN for the first time. I'm still speechless because like most of you, I knew people in North Korea were less fortunate but to see all of the suffering is absolutely heartbreaking. We need to ban together and put pressure on the Chinese government to not repatriate them. Please help the North Koreans.
2/13/06
I grew up in South Korea until I was about 11. I immigrated to the U.S. about seven years ago, and since then, I have forgotten about the ongoing crises in North Korea. I remember in Korea, participating in school sponsored programs to send food, clothes, and letters to the orphans of North Korea, hoping to meet them one day when both countries finally reunify. In light of recent events, reunification seems so unlikely. But we can't leave these refugees and children on their own to survive, forgotten by the rest of the world. It's particularly emotional for me because I am Korean, and really, these people are my brothers and sisters, separated by a harsh and unforgiving border established more than fifty years ago. However, whether you are Korean or not, I think it's our responsibility as Americans, who have been blessed with the political, economical, and social freedoms, to raise awareness about these issues. What some people, as evidenced by some of the messages posted on this board, fail to understand is that multilayer of complex political and social forces that govern these policies between China, South Korea, and North Korea. South Korea is embracing these refugees and will accept them IF they make it to South Korea. Given the near impossibility of crossing the North-south Korean border, refugees often cross into China and live in constant fear of capture and repatriation. Few families, like HanMi's family, make it into South Korea, with an extraordinary amount of luck. And for the "lack of evidence" as pointed out by one of the posts on this forum, I think the chilling stories of survivors, human rights watch activists, and refugees are enough to make me believe. Obviously, we are not going to be able to obtain footages of concentration camps and what happens inside them by any means given North Korea's situation, but we don't always need footages to believe. It's the actual people that force you to believe.
1/9/06
Tiffany
It was very upsetting to me after I watched the Seoul Train. I just can believe what a world that we're living. Suprisingly, this crisis was going for quite a while and not so many people know about it until now(myself, for example). I have my own responsibility, but if I can help I will. I hope that the Chinese Government thought what have happend to their people that they had to take refuged in Viet Nam and other country. But their fate were not sent back to China and they stay their until now. Therefore, they should help to the refugee. I disagree with the International Olympic Committe's decision totally because they don't deserve it for the way they treated the refugee. They should be punished for their action, not awarded. And never trust a country that governs by the Communist.
12/27/05
Los Angeles, CA
No I was not really aware of the crisis in N. Korea.
Thank you for airing such an important story. I am not surprised that it receives no media attention because of the scarcity of video & photos.
I would not risk my own life, but I do want to help others living in the free world know about this transparent crisis/genocide.
I hope that with the attention China receives for hosting the Olympics, the world's eye will inspire Chinese leaders to change their policy and allow refugees to go to other places where they will be welcomed. How can I oppose the Beijing decision, when the United States, host to many Olympics, currently endores some of the worst human rights violations?
Finally, do the Chinese endorse this policy so that they do not upset a neighbor capable of nuclear payback? Is that the bigger issue?
12/20/05
Dan Teston
Bozeman, Mt.
I saw the program last night on PBS and was truly at a loss for words, what a sad world we live in. I think the people of North Korea have to reallize that assembly of numbers and violent action against there government is the only real answer to this problem. You can only take so much of this oppression before anger over takes you. They need to know that they will have help from others. I apologize if my opinion is too extreme.
12/19/05
Holly Havnaer
Seattle, WA
Thank you so much for airing Seoul Train. I saw it in the Seattle International Film Festival and really appreciated seeing it then and last night on PBS.
Please continue this type of eye opening broadcasting.
12/19/05
Mike Janovick
San Clemente Ca.
I am like many U.S. citizens fat dumb and happy, I had no idea this type of human behavior existed. After viewing the program I felt ashamed at humanitiy for letting this type of treatment continue. As Americans we should all contact our U.S. Gov. officals and express our concerns for these people. I have mixed emotions on the olympic committee's decision 1st it may bring more attention to the free worlds to step up and intervene, if not it will only put a false face on the indecent human factor running China today.
12/19/05
henry wong
arcadia, ca
your program souel train sent chills down my back. keep up the good work.
merry xmas and a happy new yer
12/19/05
james
san francisco
I am saddened by the heartbreaking plight of North Koreans but I'm also aghast at another effort towards China bashing. Of all the nationalities appearing in the film: South Korea, U.S., France, Poland, Japan, Mongolia, and China how come the onus is on China to take the refugees? Notice that no refugees seem to have gone to the other embassies in the listed nationalities. It is as unfair as to expect the U.S. to take all Mexican refugees that flood our borders.
12/19/05
I know that south korean actress/pop singer 'Jang Na Ra' who came to china and is really famous in the media and among pop cultures in China. maybe she can do the same what Richard Gere did about HIV/AIDS in India, to raise awareness about the problem. It is really sad to see what the north korean people going through.
12/19/05
Bledar Qato
Philadelphia, PA
I was familiar with the human rights violations in China. The Chinese government continues even to this day to violate basic rights, human rights to many people among them the North Koreans. To claim that individuals such as those portrayed in the documentary are not refugees is proposterous. The Chinese gov. is following on its long history of discrimination and countinous violation of international law. However, I realize that the Chinese government has various tools as well significant leverage toward the international community. The Chinese government represents a significant population of this planet we call earth and as such they have the option of violating human rights in order to satisfy their interest. The North Koreans leaving a totalitarian country, one where freedom is scarce and supressed are then abused by the Chinese government again. As for the Olympic games being held in Beijing, yeah I do think that their decision was agreeable mainly to the power that the Chinese government holds among the international community. Yet at the same time, I can't help but feel sad, distraught and above all angry that after entering a new century the human race continues to repeat the mistakes done in the past. Truly what better country than China could be found to hold the Olympic games, the same games that were based on the spirit of competition and fair regulation for each player. Yet, the Chinese government does not desire nor believe that following international law and allowing international organizations to provide the neccessary assistance is applicable to them. The same government that does not believe in offering the same rights as other countries do to the refugees by denying their status is given the responsibility for the Olympic games. After all why should anyone care that human rights are being violated, basic human rights denied?/ The whole situation is truly undescriable, irrational and unjust.
12/19/05
K.W.
Alaska
The movie Seoul Train was shocking and I'm ashamed to say I did not at all realize the scope of the humanitarian crisis in N. Korea. Our American media is a disgrace and the crap we call news is a joke. That being said, give me a break if you think this film has brought more danger to the N. Korean refugees in China. These refugees have already chosen to compromise their safety, their lives, the very lives of their mothers, babies, and wives because their situation is horrific! Can you imagine events that would lead you to risk your children's lives? People must know what is happening there. All members of the UN should open their homelands to these people, not just China and S. Korea, but shame on China for repatriating these refugees. Spread the word about the conditions in N. Korea. Speak out! Knowledge is power! We can't wait for our government - we must push them!
12/16/05
Apache Junction, Arizona
When are the American people going to wake up and realize we are supporting a Communist Govt. at the exspense of our own jobs. When will Americans start boycotting countries with such human rights abuses of their own people and their neighbors? The American people deserve everything they get if they continue to buy foreign cars at the exspense of the American worker. We taught Japan how to build cars, Read Iacocca's biography. Now we break our own American-made autos. STOP BUYING FOREIGN CARS AND FOREIGN MERCHANDISE AND HIT THESE REGIMES WHERE IT HURTS. BOYCOTT ALL FOREIGN-MADE PRODUCTS. IF WE DON'T STOP PROPPING UP THESE REGIMES, ONE DAY WE WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO BE LEAD BY COMMUNIST COUNTRIES AS WE ARE NOW. WAKE UP AMERICA. START SHOPPING WHERE THE PRODUCTS ARE MADE IN AMERICA.
12/15/05
Suharyono
Corvallis, OR
The film has done great deal to raise our awareness of the plague of starvation and worst human living condition in North Korea.
I hope that the film will still be rerun several times to reach more and more public attention. It's time for everyone of us to help the people in North Korea the best we possibly can.
I pray God's protection of millions of North Korean people and hope the regime Kim Jung-il will be brought down soon.
12/15/05
Lisa Zhu
Boise, ID
Prior to watching the documentary, I had no idea that this was happening. But seeing people, especially children in the muddy streets searching for food on the ground, was gut-wrenching. I am a regular television viewer and have not seen anything about this topic. Often I hear about Kim Jong Il and his nuclear weapons, but hear nothing about the starvation and torture of the Korean people that just want freedom like any other human being living on this planet. The American media, so caught up in celebrity junk, has failed the public because this topic is going unnoticed. The incident with the Japanese embassy made news in Korea, and it should have in the United States. How can people act if they do not know what is going on.
The responsibility for Americans, a population so determined about justice, freedom and the human spirit, is to acknowledge that this is occurring and do something about it�even if it is talking about it. The more information people know the faster that help can arrive to these people in need. America is such a powerful nation and a dominant player in the world. America has the abilities to at least do something.
As a Chinese American, proud of my heritage and culture, I am disgraced to see the people of China turn their back on their neighbors. If China wants to be a better country and be respected by other countries, then it is their obligation to help those people. The Koreans living in China fear for their lives everyday and yet they continue because this communist country is better compared to the starvation of North Korea. The refugees are not staying in China, but fleeing to Mongolia. So why don't Chinese officials just let them go? Seeing the Japanese embassy situation play out as guards pry the little girl's mother from the gates, I felt enraged at the Chinese people standing outside just staring and not doing anything.
The IOC's decision to award the Olympics to China in 2008 was in an attempt to raise awareness to the problem. However, I don't think that has been successful. In the beginning, problems with China's human rights issues surfaced that even IOC's president mentioned. However, they were just mentioned�not discussed, just mentioned. Now is the time to take action before 2008�before too many people have to die.
12/15/05
Fremont,CA
HI,
I moved from India to US 8 years back.When i arrived,i was shocked to see how much the people were isolated from the rest of the world.In India,every home gets BBC world,CNN world,24 hours a day for 2 dollars a month.everybody knows whats happening around the globe.
I feel i have lost touch with whats going on in the world.The news channels are merely entertainment.even the so called serious news people like wolf blitzer make it sound like they are saying something important but they are actually covering something really minor and not newsworthy like michael jackson trial,the high speed car chases,etc.and hour after hour the hosts change,but the topics remain the same.look at Jim Kramer's mad money.it looks more like a WWF show.
Basically here,the news media is all about making moeny and ratings.why is the world not covered in their news?
why do they not let us know what the world thinks about the iraq war?why do they not give BBC world news along with basic cable?no wonder the kids have no knowledge of the history,geography or politics of the world.
Thanks to internet and PBS,i can get some view into the world and keep track of what is going on beyond this cocoon.
Seoul Train was heartbreaking to say the least.gut wrencing.one way we can keep this issue alive to please broadcast such programs more and more and more often,so people never lose sight of it,or forget it.it will also be a way to rub in the faces of china and north korea that these martyrs and their struggles are not forgotten.
they need to be brought to light.they may not have free press in their country but here they do and PBS who does a wonderful job bringing all this to the people.let more and more people watch it,and sit up and realise what going on in these countries.govts of these nations will someday be held resposible if we make this issue a priority.Organisations like UNHCR may also stop being complacent and behave helpless and start doing something to save these people who merely wnat to be treated as humans.
Keep up the good work PBS.please continue to show such programs,as hard as it is to watch,it is necessary.
12/15/05
Lake Forest, IL
I can not get the images out of my mind - its haunting. I am the adoptive mother of two beautiful children born in Seoul. I am forever connected to the conditions and fate of the people of Korea - both North and South. And I must do something.
After reading other comments here I plan on a frenzied letter writing and calling campaign to media outlets, demanding increased coverage of this horrific situation. I join others to do the same. New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, FOX, Chicago Tribune,etc, etc. We must build a ground swell of outrage.
Is there any way to create a boycott of Wal-Mart until these human rights issues are resolved?
Thank you to the film makers and to PBS for making and airing this important and hopefully life changing film.
12/15/05
tenochtitlan
illinois
I saw the program just recently, I have to say I was repulsed by such a weak effort by the U.N. I am very well aware of the situation in North korea. I believe the problem has to be solved unilateraly between both koreas. Multilateral talks have not worked and will not work unless South korea takes the forefront on the matter. The fact is, neither Russia,China, Japan, Or the United States care about the situation simply because they are not korean. All of these nations simply want to apeace the situation until kim jong il dies, But what will the international community do after the mass exodus of the north koreans amid the ensuing anarchy?. Going even furter, the strain that Japan, south korea, and China, will face when this happens will cripple the world economy. Ever since kim Dae jung left office, Roh's government has done nothing to promote any progress within north korea. The sunshine policy that kim deviced during his term in office left both koreas on the threshhold of viable progress. Unfortunately Roh's government has done nothing but Isolate North korea. Roh's government has to stop being america's puppet and think about it's people. What the U.S. did for korea during the korean war,does not give the U.S. the right to direct korea's foreign policy.
Before reconciliation can be achieved, there has to be progress within North korea. Otherwise korea will face the same problem Germany and Russia faced during the abrupt changes whithin their government.
12/15/05
M A
I was browsing through the channels and the clipping of the Mother and the child caught my attention. I started watching the show. I was shocked with the severity of the issue. I am not sure how many of us are really aware of the actual problem with regard to N. korea. UN and other organisations should put more pressure to the Olympic Committee and China cannot be given this oppurtunity without any proper agreemnt to stop the repatriation. The chinese govt can be forced in various means for nulling the understading between the chinese and north korean govt. U.S and its ally used the same method for the Al-quida issue and the Pakistan govt was made to support the Joint forces. Likewise U.S. and other Govts can handle this situation by applying economic pressure on Chinese Govt. The chinese govt should not be threatned by the flooding of refugees and repatriation is totally un-human. Understanding between the neibhouring states should not be affecting the population of either state.
12/15/05
Chicago, IL
So, the movie is touching. I almost have tears, really... Why don't send an army there to liberate all those poor people. There will be flowers and smiling faces waiting for you. Wait, you tried once fifty years ago. Not much changed, and more than 50,000 young men and women never got to see their beloved homeland again.
The journalists in the movie did their duty. However, I think this movie simplified the issue. UN, US, China all can do better on this issue. But the movie only showed a very few examples of the large population. China wont just simply open its border. How do you control the crowd? How do you control the crime coming with it? Is there red carpet on US/Mexican border? How are those poor Mexicans are treated when they crossed the border illegally?
As the media coverage. We all know North Korea is a "hell". What does it really look like? BBC web site has a set of photos yesterday taken by a western businessman. They show a poor but neatly maintained village. They are quite different from this images from this movie. There are underresourced population everywhere. Did anybody remember those images from New Orleans a few months ago?
Reporters, please tell the whole story. Audiences, open your mind, look from a broader point of view.
12/15/05
Andrea Garner
Chandler, AZ
I was aware of the human rights crisis in both North Korea and China, but this film put faces and stories on an issue that sometimes feels a world away. As the daughter of a Korean adoptee, I feel a strong connection with the events that have transpired in that region of the world over the past 60 years. I was overwhelmed with a sense of pride as I watched people risking their lives for the freedom of so many North Koreans. I am also deeply greived at the lack of media attention that this tragedy has achieved. Unfortunately, I feel that the U.S. media's coverage of North Korea centers on the nuclear threat that regime poses, rather than the suffering of lives hanging in the balance. As Americans most of us can find the label of immigrant or even refugee in our not to distant past. Can we stand by silently? Choosing to put pressure on countries only where U.S. interests are at stake does not set the example for other world powers. Bosnia, Rwanda, North Korea...how many must die?
12/15/05
Diana Luke
Lincoln, NE
I am so surprised of the conditions in North Korea. My mother is from South Korea, now here in America. I thought China was a lot better than that. I figured they would be willing to help send these refugees to another country if China itself does not want them. To send them back to North Korea is cruel and thoughtless. I was very moved by "Seoul Train."
12/15/05
I have a few arguments,
1. From what I read from the New York Times, there are quite some people who cross the Chinese/DPRK border several times. It's not that hard to bribe the DPRK border patrol soldiers, they are very poor too.
2. Before the SK groups orchestrated high profile embassy jumping that caught international media attention, China seldom raid and deport DPRK persons in China. If I remember correctly, New York Times reported the response of some DPRK people in China about the embassy jumping as something like "Gosh, these selfish people get in, but we are now doomed."
3. There are 3 countries bordering DPRK, China, Russia and SK. Why only the attention in China? No matter how, China did open its border to DPRK. How about SK opens its border as well? How about Russia? It's such hypocrisies for SK to blame China while they themselves keep their own border closed.
4. From recent Chinese news, a few armed DPRK 'refugees' robbed a Chinese hotel and killed a Chinese soldier. Be fair, what will you think if Mexican illegal immigrants kill a US national guard?
12/15/05
I used to live in S. Korea and S. Korean media covers the issue regularly.
I really learned of this crisis was when I once spoke with a missionary pastor who had worked with North Korean refugees in China. Many S. Korean pastors and christians in underground churches in China help N.K. refugees by providing spiritual guidance(many and most refugees come to believe Jesus), food and places to hide(refugees have to move every three months, just to make sure they don't get caught & arrested by chinese police officers). If and when refugees get sent back to N. Korea, many get killed by N. Korean officers on the border.
I also have been selfish knowing what is going on in N. Korea. Hope many people who watched this Seoul train will come together to help these people get their freedom.
Although China has a great presence in international stage which IOC couldn't ignore in making the decision to have olympic games in china, IOC must reconsider the dicision or at least stress the humanitarian issues to chinese gov't before the Olympics.
12/15/05
Julie
Palos Hts. Illin
I Have been aware of the Faminein North Korea;it has been oning for
years, and still we do nothing.
My heart was torn from me as I watched The Children searching for
a bit of food in the mud. How can
our wealthy country not help feed the children, I know our government
has a policy that prevents aid,,but
the children are innocent starving victims.
yes I would risk my life to make a differnce.
12/15/05
The organizer of the embassy-jumping seems to have a polictical agenda, bring international pressure to the DPRK and Chinese government and finally bring down the DPRK. There are tens of thousands of North Koreans in China, and bringing a few dozen to foreign embassies in Beijing does not help the masses, but put them in danger by orchestrating this conflict front against the Chinese government. If he really cared about the 'refugees', he would have come up with something that benefits more. For his own political ambition, he put up this conflict and thousands North Koreans in danger, and he does not care. He get his international attention, and if the thousands suffer, it works better for his political agenda.
12/15/05
Susan S. Pastin
Chicago IL
I don't understand why South Korea cannot accept at least some of the refugees from North Korea. They are their siblings!
I understand accepting millions would be an economic burden for South Korea. So could the United States and Europe also accept some of the refugees?
Although some Republicans are trying to make it almost impossible for refugees fleeing persecution to come to the U.S., that is still U.S. law -- we accept refugees fleeing persecution.
12/15/05
When you organize a small group of North Koreans to enter China illegally, then organize them to break into foreign embassies in Beijing illegally, all the while filming it, are you really help them or making news? Did you ever think what you have done will mean to the thousands of North Kreans in China? It's so selfish to put all these people in harms way to satisfy your own 15 minutes of fame. Shame on you.
12/15/05
If you believe bringing down the DPRK government is a good thing to do, go ahead and do it. But if you want to put 250,000 North Koreas in China into hostage, and have them to suffer to archieve your political goal, while claiming you are helping them, SHAME ON YOU!
12/15/05
Laifu
I watched this documentary and find it vicious and a piece of bull**** in term of truth and justice.
If the film makers and those who made the film on TV really care about human rights, they should go to Iraq where Americans are killing people daily in dozens, if not hundreds. Or they should go to US-Mexico border there the US government is capturing and sending back hundreds of Mexicans everyday.
As a matter of fact, these are trying to put dirt on the face of the Chinese and North Korean governments by selective filming and deliberately distorting the facts. At the same time they are poisoning the minds of ordinary Americans.
I have seen photos taken by my friends who travel to North Korea as tourists. It is a beautiful country. The architectures are modern and the streets are clean. The people are polite and love their country very much. Whereas the documentaries on North Korea I have seen in the US show dead bodies everywhere in streets. People have basic decency and common sense will not believe this. Yes there are shortages in food and some other necessities. But many countries have experienced such shortages. North Korean people and their government are working hard together to reform their economy and change the situation.
I have to remind these people who hate China that what you could not achieve in the battlefields you can't get by making these vicious lies either.
While China is marching forward with far the fastest paces in the world, you should find out why Americans are stuck with murders, racism, pollutions, corruptions of government and businesses, and ultimately the selfishness, laziness and stupidity of the people themselves, if you really want to do the human society a favor.
12/14/05
Brooklyn New York
I watch Seoul Train last evening and was totally amazedd as to how little I know of the crisis. It was a heart moving movie. It is insane that the world can not do anything. Leaving human rights in the hands of the Chinese is like having a wolf watch the hen house. I do not believe for one moment that the Olymics will have any postive affect in the situation. Iraq and Germany have proved that fact. The Chinese will do nothing more than hide all problems and polish up their image while the worls watches the events.
12/14/05
Fred Trunik
Bend, Or.
Traumatized! Once again, and I thank you greatly. Stationed close to the D.M.Z. in 1990 my life was changed forever by the realization that all is not well in the world. Even in South Korea, I was blown away by the poverty, girls sold into prostition, civil disarray, rioting, chaos, and lonelyness prevelent in a culture so different from my own. I can't say I have ever felt, the naive peace of American youth since. Thank you for this wonderful independent film! Thank you for reaffirming the truth of the matter, because I have become complacent, and I don't wan't to be. The reminder is a familiar punch in the gut that I needed, and that we all need, a call to march, a call for change, and a call for what we should stand for as Americans! The blessings in which we live with for can either make one feel guilty, as I have been, or empower one to at least try to make a difference. Thank you once again for the reminder, the knowledge, and the ultimate success of this film, for empowering the public with the truth, and giving me a much needed reminder of the kind of man I'd like to be. Thank you to PBS and the makers of Seoul Train.
12/14/05
Jennifer Salinas Doxi
Fort McMurray, Alberta
I watched the show halfway already on PBS and I am greatly affected. I feel for the people if North Korea, the activisits, and everyone who are dedicated in helping North Koreans get their freedom.
As a mother of three small children, it is hard to watch the children pick food off the muddy ground. I can only imagine their horrible tragedy. I know right then that I can do something about this. I believe that one person at a time can make a big difference. I want to help North Koreans get their freedom. We must PUT A STOP TO THIS HUMAN SUFFERING!!!
12/14/05
Richard Charles Thompson
Milton, West Virginia
Q. Before watching SEOUL TRAIN, were you aware of the human rights crisis and famine in North Korea? If so, how did you learn about the crisis? If not, are you surprised that the crisis has not received more media attention?
A. I was not aware that the famine was an unending situation and that it was a politically caused event. My only information has been the scraps from the news media. It has been demonstrated that international attention (public exposure) about the situation can and did make a difference.
Q. What responsibility, if any, do citizens of the free world have to assure basic human rights for those who do not live freely?
A. Our only obligations are to provide the enslaved with the means to free or protect themselves, and to ensure that the entire world knows of their plite.
Q. Would you risk your life to make a difference?
A. I don't know.
Q. Considering China�s policy toward North Korean refugees, do you agree with the International Olympic Committee�s decision to award the 2008 Olympic games to China? Why or why not?
A. I would have prefered to hold the Olympics somewhere other than China; period. Now that it will be, perhaps the venue can be used to expose more of the human rights issues in China as well as in North Korea.
We could also attempt to provide those two countries solutions. One of the most obvious is to convince NK to feed and care for all of its people. All those people who are trying to leave want is to be able to survive through having their basic needs met (food, water, clothing, shelter, and safety).
Some of those interviewed pointed out that it would be a bad idea to cause the collapse of the present regime. I believe it would not be. What we would have to ensure is that the current military and police remain intact and still able to control the population while relief measures for feeding and treating them were put into action (remember Iraq).
But, in order to encourage humanitarian change NOW we could forgo toppling their government and have UN people and assets administer the relief program.
What would NK do if we smuggled in food?
12/14/05
Mark
Chicago, IL
How come we don't hear about the N Korea and the slaughtering of their people on CNN or FOX News? What about 60 Minutes?
It is unbelieve - I think our nation has become so withdrawn...all I hear now on the news is a debate about what is the proper phrase..Christmas or Holiday??. In the meantime, people are starving, beaten and tortured in N Korea.
What in the world is going on with the United Nations? - where is the outrage?
And someone explain why the Olympics are being held in China...just think of all the people that will die before, during and after the games.(In China from the oppressed Falung Gong practioneers and N Korea's refugees)
If they were on a progress plan and they verified that they were on the correct path to human rights then let the games may be played in China. But no...no way now. I'm also tired of every damn thing in the U.S. being made in China. Nothing against the Chinese people - just the Chinese Gov't. I love people of all backgrounds.
My heart goes out to every single N Korean and Chinese that have paid the price to be free. My heart goes to the individuals who are being held against their will.
God help us fix this problem. Just think...I can be done.
12/14/05
Daniel Wade
Roeland Park, KS
I just viewed 'Seoul Train' on KCPT, the Kansas City PBS station. It affected me deeply and I want to know what I can do to help with this terrible situation. For too long I have done nothing about the issues that outrage me because they seem like such large problems and my personal influence seems so small. If enough people who have a small influence work together, their collective energies can be focused to create a mammoth influence. If there is a grassroots movement, I would be interested in obtaining more information. If not, I would be interested in finding out what needs to be done to create one.
12/14/05
marylyn devlin
Monroeville, PA
The film was amazing, but so outrageously frightening. I am a Pgh. literacy volunteer with a S. Korean woman who wants to improve her English so I feel connected to the N.Koreans who need to choose freedom over family. (Could I do it?) I wish to start work with your "get involved" page.
12/14/05
Mel Whiteside
It's 9:58 P.M., Central Time, and I have just finished watching Seoul Train on PBS. I am stunned, sickened, mortified, and stricken with sadness. I'm disappointed in myself for leading such a selfish life and for my lack of gratitude for the wonderful freedom I have in the United States.
Yes, I am aware of the atrocities being committed against the people of North Korea. Through my connection with Voice of the Martyrs, I've been informed on the grotesque, inhumane tortures performed on North Koreans for their lack of "allegiance" to a morbid, sick, and psychopathic dictator - Kim Jong II.
I am abhorrently disgusted by the lack of U.S. media coverage regarding this issue. I had no clue how poverty stricken North Korea is; my heart is broken for these people.
As American citizens, we have to put forth the time and effort to initiate contact with the proper authorities via the bombardment of letters demanding freedom to those held captive. We need to make immediate demands of the media to expedite cove
rage that brings to light the human atrocities (i.e., murder, torture, rape) being committed in North Korea and China.
Regarding China's policy toward North Korean refugees, I don�t understand the IOC's decision. The argument that this will open doors for North Korean refugees and bring awareness to the atrocities committed against them will probably be overshadowed by Olympic Game coverage and a deceptive government.
The IOC's "stamp of approval" validates China's policy toward North Korea by awarding China the 2008 Olympic Games. This is a slap in the face to the North Koreans and all those who are passionately working for human rights of the North Koreans and many of the Chinese people, too.
"We the People"
12/14/05
Patrick
Ohio
I was simply shocked at what I watched tonight. I had not heard anything about this on tv. I am not a habitual world news-watcher, but i usually catch the local news which usually has some world news. I am apalled that the media has said little(nothing?) about this situation. I believe that those in positions of freedom should help those who are being wronged. I would risk my life to help those in situations worse than mine. No question. I think that China should not be allowed the Olympics. I think that if you are going to host the olympics, your country should be a model for others to follow. Granted, every country has its problems, but this is outrageous.
12/14/05
Vincent S.
Long Island, NY
China once again proves to the world she is more than willing to act in a despicable manner towards human beings, and the World community chooses to turn a blind eye toward the issue or raise a weak hand in objection. As for world reaction to the North Korea problem, when will there be enough bodies for us to shout; "THAT'S ENOUGH!", and take action against Kim Jong Il, even if it means Military action? And to the folks at the United Nations, you are more impotent as a world organization than ever.
12/14/05
ts grn
michigan
Yes, I believe the abuse. I feel strongly about the Koreans. I do not know that extreme human rights abuse has been happening, but since I lived in S.Korea I have seen a government to the north that has hid whatever they could. I have seen a gov't that has been less than honest with good will ambassadors.
It is time things change with the DPRK- I am not Korean... I only have a heart. I have seen the reunions of the North and South and I have cried a million tears.
I understand 100% that the South fears a flood of from the North. It would bring an economical devistation.
Something needs to be done.. People need to be able to survive honestly and without fear or need of food.
Please help these people.
12/14/05
New York, NY
What I really want to know, is the total number of people watching segments or the full broadcast of the show on all the PBS member stations. It's not enough that we may get angry at the conditions they face, or that there are protests. If more people actually cared and perhaps watched this over normal primetime, or bothered to really take a look at reality, I think it would touch our hearts as Americans, to really try to speak up for the despair that, not just the North Koreans in the film, but North Koreans, and refugees around the world in general face on a daily basis, eating away at their very existence as human beings. It's very disturbing that in the 21st century chronologically, that we still face these problems and that we are (for the most part) politically mute on these issues.
12/14/05
stephen matochik
mamaroneck, ny
Just finished watching Seoul Train.I have NEVER written to a tv show before because i live in ny and it seems am always busy. Thank you for the information about this situation.Hopefully North Korea will be free soon.....
12/14/05
Adriene
Topeka, Kansas
In the middle of watching this I broke down. I sit in my home, with heat, a full belly and as an American it's hard to fully grasp the severity of the reality of the world. The idea that we are all human beings is simply lost in the political shuffle.
We went to Iraq to "help the Iraqi people" from the dictatorship of the regime. What about our fellow humans just East? How can we sleep knowing these people suffer so much? How can we sleep knowing North Korea very well has real nuclear weapons? How can we sleep as Americans knowing this is going on right now?
I am 23 years old. I did not live through any World War. I was not around during Vietnam. It is completely heartbreaking to realize that my reality is one in which we do not fully aid our human man unless there is an interest.
I can not understand this and do not want to if it means simply coming to terms with it. What happened to the idea of human kind?
12/14/05
If the Chinese government don't allow north korean to enter their borders, why don't they try south korea? Didn't America always said south korea is democracy and the goody-goody. I think south korea would want to help as many refugee as possible if they are so good. During the crisis of world war II, why don't America help "refugees" to enter America? Is there some video footage about the assumed "torture" or "execution"? How can we just assume that North Koreans are being torture and suffer all the times? There has to be at least a little bit of footage of them if America has such a good spy network. I have more belief in these things if there is a bit more proof.
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