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Mediatwits #22: Remembering Steve Jobs with Two Biographers

by Mark Glaser, October 6, 2011

Tagged: alan deutschman, apple, cult, cult of mac, ipad, iphone, iphone 4s, itunes, kindle fire, leander kahney, steve jobs

The Mediatwits podcast is sponsored by the CUNY Graduate School of Journalism, which offers an intensive, cutting edge, three semester Master of Arts in Journalism; a unique one semester Advanced Certificate in Entrepreneurial Journalism; and the CUNY J-Camp series of Continuing Professional Development workshops focused on emerging trends and skill sets in the industry.

Welcome to the 22nd episode of "The Mediatwits," the weekly audio podcast from MediaShift. The co-hosts are MediaShift's Mark Glaser and entrepreneur Rafat Ali. This week is a special edition dedicated to Steve Jobs, the technology visionary who died on Wednesday. The news spread quickly online and on social media, with so many heartfelt memories, stories and old videos. And of course, in death as in life, Jobs remained a polarizing figure, with so many admirers and so many haters. No one can deny he helped usher in the personal computing revolution, while later disrupting the music and telecom businesses and creating a whole new market for tablets.

The special guests this week are two Steve Jobs biographers: Alan Deutschman, who wrote "The Second Coming of Steve Jobs" in 2001; and Leander Kahney, who wrote "Inside Steve's Brain" in 2008. They're both eagerly anticipating the new biography of Jobs by Walter Isaacson. The discussion also touched on the recent iPhone 4S announcement from Apple, and the tough shoes Tim Cook has to fill as Apple's CEO. Plus, how does the new Kindle Fire stack up to the iPad? Amazon fanboy Rafat Ali already has his on order.

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Intro and outro music by 3 Feet Up; mid-podcast music by Autumn Eyes via Mevio's Music Alley.

Here are some highlighted topics from the show:

Intro

2:00: Jobs' official biography shoots to #1 on Amazon

3:40: Outpouring of support for Jobs, even from competitors

5:00: Rundown of topics on our show: Steve Jobs, iPhone 4S, Kindle Fire

Remembering Steve Jobs

7:30: Special guests Alan Deutschman and Leander Kahney

8:20: Deutschman: Obituaries in the works for the past 8 years, but still a shock

11:10: Deutschman has e-book coming, "How Steve Jobs Changed Our World"

12:50: Kahney: Apple ecosystem works well because it's locked down

16:10: Deutschman: Jobs did subject people to verbal abuse in pursuit of perfection

Tim Cook and the iPhone 4S

18:00: Where does this leave Tim Cook as the new CEO?

Leander Kahney.jpg

19:30: Kahney: Jobs was actually against the App Store at first

23:10: Deutschman: Jobs was white knight for book publishers vs. Amazon

26:00: Kahney: Jobs was the primary fanboy for Apple

Amazon Fire selling like hotcakes

28:10: Kindle Fire outdoing the iPad in its early days?

30:10: Kindle has closed environment, more closed than Apple

32:00: How annoying will Kindle ads get?

Weekly Poll

Don't forget to vote in our weekly poll, this time about what you'll miss most about Steve Jobs):

Mark Glaser is executive editor of MediaShift and Idea Lab. He also writes the bi-weekly OPA Intelligence Report email newsletter for the Online Publishers Association. He lives in San Francisco with his son Julian. You can follow him on Twitter @mediatwit. and Circle him on Google+

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No one can deny he helped usher in the personal computing revolution, while later disrupting the music and telecom businesses and creating a whole new market for tablets.\n\nThe special guests this week are two Steve Jobs biographers: Alan Deutschman, who wrote \"The Second Coming of Steve Jobs\" in 2001; and Leander Kahney, who wrote \"Inside Steve's Brain\" in 2008. They're both eagerly anticipating the new biography of Jobs by Walter Isaacson. The discussion also touched on the recent iPhone 4S announcement from Apple, and the tough shoes Tim Cook has to fill as Apple's CEO. Plus, how does the new Kindle Fire stack up to the iPad? Amazon fanboy Rafat Ali already has his on order.\n\nCheck it out!\n\n\n\nmediatwits22.mp3\n\nSubscribe to the podcast \"here\":http://themediatwits.libsyn.com/rss\n\n\"Subscribe to Mediatwits via iTunes\":http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mediatwits-pbs/id434716661\n\nFollow @TheMediatwits on Twitter \"here\":http://twitter.com/#!/themediatwits\n\nIntro and outro music by \"3 Feet Up\":http://www.3feetup.com/; mid-podcast music by \"Autumn Eyes\":http://www.autumnseyes.com/ via Mevio's Music Alley.\n\nHere are some highlighted topics from the show:\n\nIntro\n\n2:00: Jobs' official biography shoots to #1 on Amazon\n\n3:40: Outpouring of support for Jobs, even from competitors\n\n5:00: Rundown of topics on our show: Steve Jobs, iPhone 4S, Kindle Fire\n\n $\"Alan-Deutschman.jpg\"$ \n\nRemembering Steve Jobs\n\n7:30: Special guests Alan Deutschman and Leander Kahney\n\n8:20: Deutschman: Obituaries in the works for the past 8 years, but still a shock\n\n11:10: Deutschman has e-book coming, \"How Steve Jobs Changed Our World\"\n\n12:50: Kahney: Apple ecosystem works well because it's locked down\n\n16:10: Deutschman: Jobs did subject people to verbal abuse in pursuit of perfection\n\nTim Cook and the iPhone 4S\n\n18:00: Where does this leave Tim Cook as the new CEO?\n\n $\"Leander$ \n\n19:30: Kahney: Jobs was actually against the App Store at first\n\n23:10: Deutschman: Jobs was white knight for book publishers vs. Amazon\n\n26:00: Kahney: Jobs was the primary fanboy for Apple\n\nAmazon Fire selling like hotcakes\n\n28:10: Kindle Fire outdoing the iPad in its early days?\n\n30:10: Kindle has closed environment, more closed than Apple\n\n32:00: How annoying will Kindle ads get?\n\nh2. More Reading\n\n\"The day Steve Jobs called Walter Isaacson\":http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/10/06/the-day-steve-jobs-called-walter-isaacson/ at Fortune\n\n\"Celebrating the life of Steve Jobs in photos, videos, quotes and tweets\":http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/10/06/celebrating-the-life-of-steve-jobs-in-photos-videos-quotes-and-tweets-updating/ at The Next Web\n\n\"The Obituary Of Steve Jobs We Couldn't Ever Bring Ourselves To Write\":http://www.cultofmac.com/121334/the-obituary-of-steve-jobs-we-couldnt-ever-bring-ourselves-to-write/ at Cult of Mac\n\n\"Steve Jobs obituary\":http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/steve-jobs-obituary-50005525/ at CNET\n\n\"The Steve Jobs I Knew\":http://allthingsd.com/20111005/the-steve-jobs-i-knew/ at AllThingsD\n\n\n\n\"My Thoughts on Steve\":https://plus.google.com/103716847685048716973/posts/3qbsNMsSmPu by Jason Calacanis on Google+\n\n\"Steve Jobs' Health, Forced Sabbaticals, and His Brilliance\":http://1x57.com/2011/01/24/steve-jobs-health-forced-sabbaticals-and-his-brilliance/ at 1x57\n\n\"Steve Jobs and the continuing disruption of media\":http://gigaom.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-and-the-continuing-disruption-of-media/ at GigaOm\n\n\"Steve Jobs Was Always Kind To Me (Or, Regrets of An Asshole)\":http://thewirecutter.com/2011/10/steve-jobs-was-always-kind-to-me-or-regrets-of-an-asshole/ at The Wirecutter\n\nSteve Jobs Narrating the \"Think Different\" Ad:\n\n\n\nA memorial at the Apple Store in San Francisco. Photo by \"patr1ck via Instagram\":http://instagr.am/p/PPLFD/.\n\n $\"memorial$ \n\n\"Apple's iPhone 4S is swell, but pricing is the real killer app\":http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/apples-iphone-4s-is-swell-but-pricing-is-the-real-killer-app/59761?tag=content;siu-container at ZDNet\n\n\"More Like a Whisper Than a Bang\":http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/10/06/iphone-fatigue/ at Reuters blog\n\n\"Leaked Sales Numbers Suggest Amazon Kindle Fire On Track To Outsell iPad [Exclusive]\":http://cultofandroid.com/257/leaked-sales-numbers-suggest-amazon-kindle-fire-on-track-to-outsell-ipad-exclusive/ at Cult of Android\n\n\"Analyzing Kindle Fire Sales Estimates\":http://paidcontent.org/article/419-amazon-doesnt-release-kindle-fire-preorders-but-others-fill-in/ at PaidContent\n\nh2. Weekly Poll\n\nDon't forget to vote in our weekly poll, this time about what you'll miss most about Steve Jobs):\n\n\n\n\nMark Glaser is executive editor of MediaShift and \"Idea Lab\":http://www.pbs.org/idealab. He also writes the bi-weekly OPA Intelligence Report email newsletter for the \"Online Publishers Association\":http://www.online-publishers.org. He lives in San Francisco with his son Julian. You can follow him on Twitter \"@mediatwit\":http://www.twitter.com/mediatwit. and \"Circle him on Google+\":https://plus.google.com/110349587692857642647/posts\n\n $\"CUNY-J$ \n\nThe Mediatwits podcast is sponsored by the CUNY Graduate School of Journalism, which offers an intensive, cutting edge, three semester Master of Arts in Journalism; a unique one semester Advanced Certificate in Entrepreneurial Journalism; and the CUNY J-Camp series of Continuing Professional Development workshops focused on emerging trends and skill sets in the industry.

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