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"Faith is believing things by definition, which are not justified by reason. If it were justified by reason, it wouldn't be faith. It would just be ordinary belief. It's something you can't prove. That's what faith is, believing something you can't prove."
-- Colin McGinn



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Poster: duncanek
Caption: yes, faith has always escaped me. thank god :)

Poster: Gregory Wonderwheel
Caption: I strongly disagree with McGinn's definition of faith. He is correct that things justified by reason are ordinary belief. What he defines aa faith however is simply unjustified beliefs. Faith is an inquiry into the nature of the world and of our existence that is beyond that which is determined by things. Faith transcends things as objects and results in an experience that awakens one to the unification of reality even though our belief says things are separate. Belief is standing on our dualistic observations. Faith is resting in seeing the non-dual nature of reality.

Poster: Lois Garman
Caption: Thank you for having Colin McGinn on. He is an excellent representative for we atheists. I also was raised as a Christian, a protestant. By the age of 35, I had totally rejected belief in the supernatural (god, etc.). Please have more representatives of atheism on the show.

Poster: Alexander Lahoz
Caption: It seems that this statement is overbroad. There is much in religion that can in fact be proven or at the very least, which is more rational to believe in than not. Judaism and Islam in particular are very rational belief systems. Possibly Dr. McGinn's strong familiarity with Christianity is what informs his view of the irrationality of religion. It is not, however and universilally apt view.

Poster: Rahim Asgard
Caption: Faith is picking up one perceived truth out of many probable ones and concentrating all your menatl and emotional energy on it while closing your eyes to any other possible truth.It invigorates by condensing one's emotinal energy in one direction, eliminating self-doubt

Poster: Deb
Caption: Faith is believing in what you can not see. It has been proven to me on several occasions by hearing His voice, by being healed myself, and seeing many afflicted people completely healed by God. If you ask Him to reveal Himself to you He will, your not waiting for Him, He is waiting for you.

Poster: CHERYLE BROWN
Caption: you are what right, for the bible tell us that faith is the substance of things hope for, the evident of things not seem.

Poster: gurbilash
Caption: Faith is self searching every moment. It is not blind idea, and it does provide you with reason as well. Faith is removing your own ignorance and enlighting yourself and raising your consciousness or becoming spirtual.

Poster: mike o'sullivan
Caption: Faith and belief are two entirely different things. When a christian, for example, says to me 'i believe in god',they're saying 'I know he exists.'I believe in an entity that's been described to me by the bible, elaborated upon by the clergy, family, powers that be, etc. god's a very simple sort of human-like creature i can wrap my mind around, and if I follow all his rules I'll end up in heaven and everything will be all right. Faith admits you don't know for sure. You don't know anything for sure, You admit it's beyond you, so you trust, have faith.

Poster: Donn
Caption: Faith is a muscular act of the will to believe in something despite all kinds of evidence to the contrary.

Poster: RMB...NYC
Caption: Faith is Absract; Belief is Palpable--as in your 'Salt, your Juices, your Blood and your Bones'.

Poster: C.B.
Caption: One may believe in anything. Possible beliefs are endless. To practice a faith is a way to test one of these infinite possible beliefs, seriously and deeply, for what may, or maybe should be, a finite time. One must test this faith over time to see if there is any reality to it, if it is in accord with what one experiences in day to day life, and if living within that life view translates into any positive result to the world. What one believes will not change what happens in life. To hold a faith, to adhere seriously to a viewpoint within the faith, is to affect the way one responds to what happens in life. Belief can choose to be blind. Faith is practicing a thought in the hope of clarifying a view of actual reality.



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