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Poster: Adam Elder
Caption: I find it surpising how many people fail to confront the theory of evolution itself. It presents many contradictions and gaps that are often overlooked by it's educators and supporters. Evolution is the sole reason behind atheistic belief of the modern era.(One should pay attention to irreduciable complexity, the biggest problem for the theory present day.)
Caption: Evolution is an evil topic that brings much anger and violence among otherwise people who seem to be at peace with one another. Yet evolution is everything. The god of the universe doesn't seem particularly interested in the well being of any individual living organism, including man. The god that folks talk about is one that resides in his or her own conscience, brought about by the evolution of the universe. Evolution of living beings is a vast field, studied by thousands of professions. One must realize that the evolution of anything, is a process that is not linear, but a process that fluctuates in time, sometimes by millions of years. All the religions known, have evolved in some region of the earth at a particular time. Before they were established, conscience evolved to the point of understanding what was right and what was wrong, and god was the name given to that conscience. As humans, we should attempt to gain a view of the big picture, and realize that we are a product of that evolution of the universe. We happen to be the 'here and now', but what the future will be, depends on how the universe evolves. In the mean time, we would do well to reason with our fellow humans, in working out ways to make the journey for all of us as pleasant as possible. Tolerance is the word !
Poster: Yinegal Belachew
Caption: I think religion has played part for the last five to six centuries in many forms, in many places, and it has been changing to the time. Now science has come with one form and one content - reason. Yes we are captivated in the framework of people of two thousand years ago and do not want to see the world today in the eyes of the present and now. Those ancestors of ours did not know much and atributed the unkown to some supernatural force. We have observed most of their religous belief being dismantled thanks to science. As science develops and gives us answers we will go more distance but for now let us see the framework. The bases for GOD or god is the fear of the unknown and the desire to know. The bases for science is the observed facts - reason. At the present time where all sciences are contributing to our understanding of how we came about here, it will be foolish to be tied with the the intelligence of people two thousand years ago and be a slve of the god people created and then made him/her a creator.
Poster: Irina Nikitina
Caption: Just as Sir John Houghton, I am at peace when I think about religion and science. I donít see them as contradictory and antagonistic. To me, God defined what is to be, and the science gradually discovers how it is done. By the way, the whole scientific triumph has become possible only thanks to and through the spiritual growth of the entire body of humanity. I see the multitude of religious doctrines working as warrant of simultaneous scientific advancements. Science is a product of spiritual labor that results in an intelligence break-through, and religions are historically and supernaturally established ways to maintain spirituality and grow in it.
Ultimately, the whole knowledge is Godís prerogative, belongs to God, and is located in Him. But the God is a Spirit. So for us, to tap into knowledge means to become more spiritual as a whole body of human kind. Individually we all are limited in our abilities and in time. Thatís where collective body comes to play. Many of the praying believers, sometimes even several generations of devoted believers, open spiritual channels for the scientifically minded ones to harvest the spiritual rewards in a form of knowledge for the entire society.
Geography of all great scientific discoveries is tied up to the spiritually advanced / religiously focused countries / societies where the vast majority of the population didnít question existence and righteousness of God but simply worshiped Him and obeyed His commandments and doing so they carried supernatural / spiritual connection to God for the naturally / scientifically minded ones. Remember -- ďWE ARE ONEĒ.
Consider any scientific discovery as a precious pearl of knowledge that slowly grows within the body of spiritual / religious shell. Outside of this mothering shell, a grain of sand would remain just a piece of sand without a chance to transform into something refined and beautiful. And beauty is an expression of Harmony which, in turn, is another prerogative of God!
Poster: Francisco Camacho
Caption: I believe in God and Jesus Christ is his only begotten son. He is the truth. The truth will set you free. Biological evolution is also a truth. I know that many Christians don't beleive this (I speak of Christians because this is my knowledge base and we are for the most part a Christian nation). I don't understand why, but I believe that it has to do with a long historical of conflict. Christians believe that god created everything. He is almighty and all powerful. He knows all of us. He knows ours pasts and our futures. There are over 6 billion people on this planet. How many do you know? Think about it. God is on a totally different level of intelligence. Think of how amazing one would have to be to know all those people. And that is not all. He knows all the creatures. He placed the stars in the sky and knows them too. Why canít a God this great be able to create the process of evolution. We know evolution happens. As a matter of fact we spend lots of money in case it happens to our detriment. If evolution didn't happen, then we wouldnít have to worry about the bird flu for example. Another thing that I donít understand is why did the Christians chose to attack evolution. Why do they not want intelligent design taught in geology classes. After all the earth is only 6 or 7 thousand years old. Not billions of years old. From an evolutionary point of view, if the earth is only 7 thousand years old, there is no way that the diversity of life that exists could have come about solely by evolution. I believe in God and I know evolution is real. I pray that during my life time the Christians will give God credit for probably his greatest creation, evolution.
Poster: The rev. Johan C. de Nijs
Caption: Evolution is a natural dialectic whereby Nature talks to itself as a result of perpetual change. In a Hegelian manner it establishes a THESIS. Natural causes answer this thesis with an ANTITHEIS. The result is a SYNTHESIS whereby a given biological entity is establishing its self on a higher , more addaptive, level. The Creation story of the bibel is an acient attempt to understand the beginning of our world.The ancients had a deep mythological insight we can learn from and therefore should not be abandoned. What we observe today within the convines of our reality is the continuation of God's creation. Yes, he rested on the sabath, but the next day he continued His work to fulfill his PLAN. So, please, grow up folks and do not fight one another,but cooperate with one another to understand our fast evolving world en the changes we can make to keep up with it in ful respect of one another. ALHAMDULILAH (God be praised).
Poster: Daniel Middleman
Caption: Evolution is a very seductive theory. I remember seeing on tv a show about whale evolution and being amazed at the way they connected the dots between a wolflike creature and all the intermediate changes that they say led to modern-day whales and related creatures. It wasn't until much later that I learned how much cutting and pasting has been done to secure this theory. In fact there are numerous points on the so-called timeline where a creature that is said to have evolved from another creature is in fact really from an earlier age. And in fact there are numerous other problems with the theory of whale evolution which can not be easily explained away. It just goes to show that one needs a healthy amount of skepticism especially when looking at evolutionary theory and how scientists have arrived at their conclusions.
Poster: David Kohlhoff
Caption: The entire controversy over evolution is based on fear. Some fear that accepting any contradiction to a fundamentalist interpretation of faith will lead to a slow decay of that faith until it dies.
Poster: rick henry
Caption: Remember what world you are living in. the spiritual world and the physcial cannot be compared in any real sense. Here the laws of physics have been ordered to work. Outside this world of physcial laws lies the spiritual realm where the laws must be different, i.e. everything is eternal, no hunger, no pain, immortality is a reality. here in our world evolution is everywhere, in heaven it stays the same. Where is the conflict? this is our world and we are hoping to go to the next. Have no fear you are living in the right world wherever you are and there is a simple and profound elegance to this division of worlds. In the one we have our challenges and we also have a hope for the next.
I am always confounded to the question on this question of evolution. For petes sake if a person is unable to know if he is a physcial entity or a spiritual one then their confusion is too deep for any help. If the two worlds weren't meant to be different then why isn't all realities exactly the same. Evolution is real and a fact. We believe that heaven is the same.
Poster: Brock Shaver
Caption: Most of the assumptions begin with no one declaring an actual Divine experience. If rationalism and science is merely observation of an established order, because it creates meaning based on measurement, why is experience of a spiritual nature dismissed as suspect?
Spiritual experience happens in different degrees to different people. Western religion suffers from the Christian worldview that reality is only God, humans and inert matter. Science agrees with the latter two. Science converts reality into numbers and equations. Since a mechanism for this type of measurement has not been developed for Consciousness, it escapes the contemporary definition of reality. Yet our own consciousness is invisible, and we reject being objectified by the process that we use to relate to our exterior reality.
But reality is only an experience, the creation of meaning. Consciousness demands structure, and that structure is meaning. For some, the Divine experience is so observable, reliable, and meaningful, that it moves from faith to being matter-of-fact. Faith is for those devoid of the convincing experience based on the reliable formation of meaning, and thus order, from outside our own cause-and-effect.
The question underlying the existence of 'God' is more a political one. It is about control and meaning. Civilized humans reject authority. It has proven abusive in the past, including through religion. The human impulse is to be in control, and power proves to be out of our control, creating insecurity. 'God' is inherently a threat, and an invisible one at that. The best minds in Western history have been trying to get control of the Jesus Story for this same reason. How could a man manipulate inert matter with just thought? Coupled with his confusing messages, this phenomenon demanded that the mind get control of it meaning on the mind's terms. The debate has not ended.
Perhaps this is why science is loathe to explore consciousness. Science was created in reaction to the Church. Acknowledgement of God would entail a subordination until it could master this problem. Like spirituality that is not human-centered for the Church, science does not want to face what it does not structurally know how to approach. It has no experience. It has no way of confining it into knowledge for our purposes. To civilization, it is a mind problem. To wisdom cultures, it is merely taken for granted. They understand the language that was lost by the ascendant mind of civilization.