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"The true woman will not be exponent of another, or allow another to be
such for her. She will be her own individual self... Stand or fall by
her own individual wisdom and strength... She will proclaim the `glad
tidings of good news' to all women, that woman equally with man was made
for her own individual happiness, to develop... every talent given to her
by God, in the great work of life."-Susan B. Anthony
Topic: A Woman President?
Posted By: Mary
Date: 11 Nov 1999 10:18 AM
I was disheartened when Elizabeth Dole dropped out of the race a little
while ago. Although I'm not a Republican, I was pleased to see her in
the race and thought (regardless of party affiliations) that she added
a fresh perspective to the discussion. How long it will be before we
have a female candidate who is successful in a presidential campaign?
I'm not just talking about winning, I'm talking about giving the other
candidates a good run for their money, all the way to the national
convention. Does anyone have any experience with that bipartisan
organization that's trying to get a woman elected president? I don't
know much about them and can't even remember their name at the
moment...any information would be appreciated!
Responses:
Subject: A Woman President?
From: Karil Daniels
Date: 11 Nov 1999 11:23 PM
I fully expect the first woman president of the USA to be elected by
2008. Perhaps it will be Hillary Rodham Clinton. Since she has already
functioned as co-president, she is more experienced and prepared for
the job than just about anyone else, male or female. In relatively
prosperous times the political reality is that the sitting Vice
President is the favorite, since electing him is a comfortable thing
for most people to do, rather than risk the changing of the guard, with
its attendant complications and unknowns. So while Hillary gets her
experience in the Senate, Al Gore will get his chance at the helm in
2000. If he keeps on tract and doesn't make any bad mistakes, and the
rest of the world cooperates so that we don't have a serious crisis in
his last year, he will be reelected for a second term. By the end of
his second term Hillary will be a seasoned senator with a proven record
of her own; and ready to run for and win the top job. Remember, you
heard it here first.- - - Karil Daniels,karil@well.comVisit the
award-winning Waterbirth Website atwww.waterbirthinfo.com
Subject: Woman for President
From: Carol Small
Date: 11 Nov 1999 12:39 AM
It IS time for the first woman president to be elected. It has been
said, many times, that more women exist than do men. Let us, then, be
supportive and vote together for a woman to become president!We will
need to collect the electoral votes - not just win the popular vote.
Does anyone know where we stand on that issue?
Subject: A woman President
From: Andrea Fischer
Date: 04 Apr 2000 11:43 AM
I am only 18 years old but I don't believe that I will see a woman
President in my day. I have no doubt that a woman would be able to
handle all the duties and responsibilities, but I don't believe that
our nation or society is ready for that yet. I may just be nieve but I
doubt that society is ready. Society is always more willing to hang
onto the ideas that are comfortable and not have change. This is true
even when it comes down to having a woman run the country. I would
love to see a woman president but I am not sure that it will happen
anytime soon.
Subject: A Woman President?
From: Mary L. Shearer
Date: 11 Nov 1999 12:04 AM
I believe the name of the bi-partisan organization you're looking for
is The White House Project. They have a web site at
www.thewhitehouseproject.org
Subject: Woman for President?
From: TJHowell
Date: 11 Nov 1999 1:02 PM
We will have a woman, many actually, as time goes by. There are many
true leaders among women. They are successful not only in business but
also in organizingvolunteer organizations, are political, are in the
Universities. What it will take is that one of them will be asked to
run for president because people are impressed with capability and her
honesty. They will then work very hard for her election and the "they"
will be men, women and children. Of course, she has to agree to do it.
It will not be easy. But I do not believe that there is anything to
hold her back. I believe Jeanne Kirkpatrick to be one of these women.
I always look for her name among the candidates. She is most well
known, but there are others.
Subject: Woman for President
From: Nanette Bulebosh
Date: 11 Nov 1999 12:49 AM
I grow less and less optimistic that I will live to see a woman
president, or a woman who would actually make a difference, with every
(non)campaign. The media have already named the two major party
frontrunners months before a single vote has been cast! Thoughtful (or
at least provocative) candidates, like Liz Dole, have already dropped
out. Why? They don't have enough money. Who's providing the money?
Big business, political machines and wealthy special interests ...
which are are still 97% run by men. Any woman they did back would have
to act, think, and even dress a lot like them, so what would there be
to get excited about? I believe our only hope of seeing genuine
political progress for women is convincing the public to demand real
campaign finance reform. Public financing of campaigns, (much) shorter
elections, and maybe a switch to parliamentary procedures with more
than two major parties getting a say (so even voting for minor
candidate would get us something) ... all of these would help women
achieve real power on the national level. As it stands now, we're
pretty much out of the game. The thing that struck me while watching
the first part of the Stanton-Anthony documentary tonight was the
absolute horror and disbelief these two women, and all the thousands of
other suffragists, would feel if they knew that, 80 years after they
finally won the vote for us, so few of us (less than half in most
places of the country) would be exercising this right. All those
decades of hard work, and for what? The majority of us don't even
bother to show up to vote! Many of us don't even know who our
congresspeople are! Why is that? Apathy and our apolitical,
over-commercialized culture are partly to blame. But another culprit
is the way the present system disenfranchizes us from the get-go. How
much is a single vote really worth compared to the power bought and
paid for by the candidates' largest contributers? My guess is that
Stanton and Anthony, if they were alive today, would be speaking out
against the current oligarchy, and fighting for "elections not
auctions."
Subject: Woman as President
From: Rob
Date: 11 Nov 1999 3:02 PM
I myself look forward to the day when I shall have the opportunity to
cast a ballot for a woman president. Fortunately it will not be for
Mrs. Dole. The lack of money in the Dole camapaign obscures the fact
that she dropped out because the only thing she could bring to the
table was her femininity. It is not enough to run for president by
simply declaring yourself to be a woman candidate. Elizabeth Dole is a
career Washington bureaucrat who rose to fame and power on the
coattails of her more powerful husband. This is not uncommon, of
course. We have another example in the White House. Mrs. Dole started
out as a minor functionary in an obscure White House office until she
had the good fortune to marry Bob Dole. Only after that fortunate
union did cabinet positions open for her in the Labor Department and in
Transportation. Let's get a woman of real substance and fresh ideas on
the ballot. A Dole administration would have turned out to be Jimmy
Carter with helmet hair.
Subject: Elizabeth Dole
From: JR
Date: 11 Nov 1999 9:56 AM
Well said, Rob. The country needs presidents who bring more than
charm, be it male or female charm. But do you know of any way to shape
the voters to look at any other dimension?? Except, of course, height.
By which measure we will never see a woman president until the
opposing party nominates a man who is shorter than the woman candidate.
Thus in a democracy do the people get the government they deserve.
Subject: Woman President
From: A
Date: 11 Nov 1999 6:46 PM
She is out there--the first woman president and her successors. Perhaps
she is newly born or about to be or she is in grade school or
graduating from high school or in college or she is only just embarking
on her political career or she is on her way. "All" she must do is get
elected. She will go forward, suffer defeat, celebrate victory, get
elected and get re-elected. It may happen within a few years or a
couple of decades. She will have to go out and engage in battle, suffer
the slings, and throw the zings. She will have to work for it--it will
not be given to her. It rarely is. Susan B and Elizabeth C both proved
that.
Subject: I'm sure
From: Steven K
Date: 11 Nov 1999 10:01 PM
I am sure we will have a woman president. But it seems to me that the
greater problem is that whatever woman becomes president she will be
walled in by partisan politics every bit as much as the men have been.
Subject: Woman president
From: JR
Date: 11 Nov 1999 9:49 AM
Of course partisan politics will remain a reality until another way is
found, and we hope she will be good at it in order to get things done.
Subject: Of course a woman can be president
From: Irvana K. Wilks
Date: 11 Nov 1999 11:55 PM
Interesting points have been made on this. We will see a woman
president when one comes along who has her own political base and
grassroots organizations. A governor or US senator would fit that
bill. Although I admired Elizabeth Dole for her candidacy and was
sorry to see her bow out, she did not have a strong grassroots army
spreading the word about her. She had good media coverage, but that
can be shallow if the people in the local parties don't catch on fire
too.A woman must do what a man does to get elected president--have good
support and raise money. Even with all the talk about the vast sums of
money the candidates are raising, that's not the entire story.
Subject: Woman President
From: A (II)
Date: 11 Nov 1999 3:43 PM
I feel we should allow ourselves to be surprised at who may end up as
the first and subsequent president who will be a woman. Much of the
commentary here offers names we are familiar with--rather expect the
unexpected, someone we are either not aware of or we would initially
not think a potential candidate. That is where future leaders are at
and where the fresh perspective can be found as well--somewhere
offstage and someday out front and center.As shown in the excellent
documentary, Sunday and Monday nights, much effort will have to be
generated on her and others' parts. Mss. Anthony and Stanton worked for
decades, plus. I do not think it will take as long for HER but she does
have challenges in order to convince PEOPLE she would make a good
president. She will only have to try . . .
Subject: Woman President
From: sara bass
Date: 04 Apr 2000 12:05 PM
I was also very disappointed when Elizabeth Dole dropped out of the
Presidential race for the 2000 term. It is a shame that women have not
had the privilege to be President yet. There needs to be a strong and
devoted woman to break the pattern and show that womena are just as
capable as men to be the next President. Women have fought long,
struggling battles just to get certain civil rights like women
suffrage; it is time that once againg women end another long struggle
of the political arena and become victorious.
Subject: Woman President
From: sara bass
Date: 04 Apr 2000 12:06 PM
I was also very disappointed when Elizabeth Dole dropped out of the
Presidential race for the 2000 term. It is a shame that women have not
had the privilege to be President yet. There needs to be a strong and
devoted woman to break the pattern and show that womena are just as
capable as men to be the next President. Women have fought long,
struggling battles just to get certain civil rights like women
suffrage; it is time that once againg women end another long struggle
of the political arena and become victorious.
Subject: Woman President
From: sara bass
Date: 04 Apr 2000 12:06 PM
I was also very disappointed when Elizabeth Dole dropped out of the
Presidential race for the 2000 term. It is a shame that women have not
had the privilege to be President yet. There needs to be a strong and
devoted woman to break the pattern and show that womena are just as
capable as men to be the next President. Women have fought long,
struggling battles just to get certain civil rights like women
suffrage; it is time that once againg women end another long struggle
of the political arena and become victorious.
Subject: woman president
From: Tori Sellars
Date: 04 Apr 2000 11:02 AM
I too was disappointed when Elizabeth Dole dropped out of the
Presidential race for the 2000 election. However, I was actually not
surprised. I realize that even though there are many strong,
intelligent women capable of leading our nation just as well as any
man, I don't see that happening any time soon. While women have made
considerable advances in equality, I feel our nation as a whole is
still too prejudiced to consider voting a woman into the highest
position of power in our nation. I personally hope I live to see a
woman president, but after over 200 years of male domination as
president, I'm not holding my breath.
Subject: Woman President
From: sara bass
Date: 04 Apr 2000 12:06 PM
I was also very disappointed when Elizabeth Dole dropped out of the
Presidential race for the 2000 term. It is a shame that women have not
had the privilege to be President yet. There needs to be a strong and
devoted woman to break the pattern and show that womena are just as
capable as men to be the next President. Women have fought long,
struggling battles just to get certain civil rights like women
suffrage; it is time that once againg women end another long struggle
of the political arena and become victorious.
Subject: Woman President
From: Heather Bouche
Date: 04 Apr 2000 12:55 AM
I do not really know much about when Elizabeth Dole was in contention
for the Presidential race, but I honestly do not think that there will
be a woman President anytime soon. If one is elected, it probably
won't be until I am old and gray. It is sad to say, but I still think
that there are many peoplewho do not think that women are competant
enough to hold the most powerful office in the world.I hope I am wrong
about that. There are still issues in today's society that women have
to still fight for.
Subject: Woman President
From: Jason
Date: 05 May 2000 2:06 PM
Tell you the truth, I didn't know about Elizabeth Dole running for the
presidency either. I can predict that a woman giving a good run for the
money at the presidency is not too far off, perhaps in the next 20 or
so years. I feel that Hillary Clinton has a lot of potential, but don't
know if she'll actually get enough support to make a real run at the
presidency.
Subject: Woman President
From: Sara Lee
Date: 04 Apr 2000 2:37 PM
I think women have come a long way in regards to equal rights and the
roles they play in society. By acquiring the right to vote, it really
gave our sex a greater amount of power and we are much more able to
express our thoughts and feelings. In regards to women in politics,
however, i think women have yet to reach the same level as men.
Although women have begun to take positions in state government and
Congress, there has yet to be a woman president or even vice-president.
I think that the time will come someday, when women are elected to be
the head of our nation. Despite this potential, I believe that women
have a long way to go in the political arena before they can acheive
this state of power. Since the founding of this country, males have
always been the ones elected to the positions of president and
vice-president. This history of men in politics makes it very difficult
for women to make a strong run for these positions. People have become
so accustomed to seeing men in power, that not only are few women even
thinking of challengein these positions, but the public in general does
not seem to support women enough to allow a woman to be elected as
president. As the nation continues to grow, however, i believe that teh
day will come when people will be willing to accept a woman as
president, but in order for this breakthrough to be acheived, women
still have a long way to go in getting society to see their points of
view and for society to see women as serious potential candidates for
such an important position.
Subject: Woman President
From: Natalie Sherwood
Date: 05 May 2000 3:39 PM
I hope to see a woman president at some point during my life. I, too,
was disappointed that Elizabeth Dole dropped out of the race. Although
she didn't make it all the way, she at least put her foot in the door
for other women in the future. I see it being a long, slow battle -
like the suffrage movement.
Subject: I belive in the women of America
From: Megan
Date: 01 Jan 2002 10:13 AM
The women of america shouldn't get discouraged because one women
failed. Think of all the things Susan B. Anthony went through. Hey, in
four years mabey a women will get to be president. Keep the faith. Even
if it sometimes is discouraging.
Subject: President
From: Scott Scharlau
Date: 05 May 2000 12:27 PM
I believe a woman will someday go all the way, and become President of
the United States. However, I also believe it will be a long, slow
process. First, women will have to increase their presence in the
House of Representatives, the Senate, and the Cabinet. I doubt if a
female candidate can will an election the way Elizibeth Dole attempted,
which is to come outside of Washington. Second, as public opinion
polls continue to show that nobody really thinks male candidates
running are worth voting for, women should be able to increase their
likelihood. Third, major scandals involving male presidents should
also help women candidates increase support. However, I believe the
female candidate will have to be an extraordinary person who is far and
away a better candidate than her male counterparts to win. She would
have to demonstrate toughness while also showing a very enjoyable
personality. In conclusion, I think a female president will someday
hold office, but I do not know how long it will take. Though I do not
know the exact quote, remember that Margaret Thather did say a women
would never hold the position of Prime Minister of England only five
years prior to her sucessful campaign for that office. So it is
possible to happen at any time.
Subject: Women President
From: Sandra Mosquera
Date: 05 May 2000 2:45 PM
If a woman comes along and is more then capable of being president, her
gender should not stop her. As others have mentioned, women like
Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B Anthony, were women who fought for
the right to vote after about 72 year of struggle and won. Other women
in the feminist movement also struggled. Women who want to become
president must be like a straight arrow and be better then the average
men. These women must build a foundation by going to school study
political science, start a career in the political scene to get
exposure and experience, and then campaign to the women of our country.
Just like those women did back in the nineteenth century travel and
reach out to all the women in our country and their families. I was
very surprised to hear that a woman was running for president. I had
not heard about it until I read this posting. I feel that if Elizabeth
Dole would have rallied the women and felt confident about herself she
could have giving the other male candidates a run for their money. As
one man, who was fighting for anti-slavery, said to discourage Stanton
and Anthony "one idea per generation." This by the way pushed them
even harder to get the vote. I think this is the millennium for the
new generation of women to voice their idea of a women president in
full force.
Subject: Female President: Sooner than Later
From: Martin Collerd
Date: 05 May 2000 1:00 AM
If this year's race was any indication, it will be sooner rather than
later when we have a successful woman presidential candidate. The sheer
lack of good speakers/debaters this year makes it very clear to me that
someone like a Liddy Dole or even a Hillary Clinton could pose a
serious threat in an election. If the republican party continues to
run inneffective candidates like Gary Bauer who are poorly informed on
issues and are not good speakers, and people like George W. Bush who
simply do not even have tact in their public relations, I do not feel
it would be difficult for a female candidate to successfully debate
with these types of candidates. If Al Gore is the best that the
Democrats can offer, we have really sunk pretty low. I have absolutely
no doubt that Liddy Dole could successfully out-debate any of these
people. I think it is more a matter of finding a candidate who has the
financial resources for a long campaign. This makes it less of a gender
issue and more of a monetary issue, the main reason that Gore and Bush
held out so long is that they have the money other candidates don't.
Somone like Christine Todd Whitman, with the fiancial resources, could
probably pull it off in a few years if she is able to successfully get
some support.
Subject: A woman president
From: Melissa Hall
Date: 05 May 2000 3:38 AM
I think that it is possible for the United States to have a woman
president. It is too bad that Elizabeth Dole dropped out of the
election, but there are many other politicl issus regarding her
canidacy. Maybe we should focus on gettingmore females in the
political arena at an earlier age, so the idea of being in the oval
office can become a reality. It would be nice to see one woman
president in office, but regardless of man or woman, we need to focus
on who is right for the job.
Subject: woman president
From: katie johnson
Date: 05 May 2000 2:16 PM
I think it's entirely possible that we will have a woman president in
the next century. I think that the women's movement has definitely
made progress in the last 100 years, and the American public is open to
the idea. I think, however, that there are still a great many people
who aren't outspoken about their uncomfort with the subject, but who
have been conditioned not to trust female leaders. When Elizabeth Dole
ran for president in the 2000 election, I think her gender could
possibly have played a role in her dismissal from the race. Because
she was running on a conservative ticket, her audience was
traditionally not open to change. These voters, although they may have
thought they were open to a woman president, may have been conditioned
against females in powerful positions. George Bush, Jr. seems to be
the perfect male candidate for president on the outside- charismatic,
handsome, witty...the voters of both parties have been traditionally
drawn to men such as this. A female president is entirely possible,
but I think that luck has just as much to do with her elction as her
intelligence and charisma.
Subject: Woman president of the Usa
From: Daniel Ward
Date: 05 May 2000 12:30 AM
I think that having a woman in the presidental race would definately
make the discussion on issues more intersting. It seems like the men
are having infantile debates where they never say anything important
and just try to deflate each other's egos. I think a woman would put
these boys into their place and force them to actually say something in
their speeches and maybe we could learn something without all their
bickering. I hope that there is a woman out there who will take the
challenge and break through so we don't have to listen to Gore, or even
worse Bush, for the next 4 years.
Subject: woman president
From: elena
Date: 06 Jun 2000 9:37 AM
i recently did a summer school project on the 1920's and one of my
catagories was women win the right to vote. I think this is a very
very strong subject in our society...women presidents. I truly think
the our nation is ready for a afriacn american president or a women
president. I mean, no offense to President Clinton, but who is really
running the country right now? him or Hilary? my point exactly! America
is ready...all we need are some bold people to stand up, and make a
difference!~elena age 13yrs.
Subject: A Woman President
From: Talina & Karla
Date: 12 Dec 2001 11:44 AM
I think that if we had a woman president, that it would make a huge
difference in the world. Most people think that a woman would go too
much with her emotions instead of her intelligence. I for one, think
this is totally inaccurate. I know that I myself would make judgements
on important issuses just as well, if not better than any man that was
veying for the same position. And furthermore, since the women's
sufferage movement and great advances in women's rights, we should be
able to run, and have a decent chance at getting the position, and not
be patronized for doing so.
Subject: A woman president
From: Pat Spiva
Date: 03 Mar 2002 10:51 PM
I, too, have heard many people say that a woman is too apt to go with
her emotions rather than her intellect when making important decisions.
You say that you do not feel this would be the case if U.S. citizens
were to elect a female president. However, why is it that women are in
the positon of defending their emotions, in the first place? Because
our society is dominated by the W.A.S.P. male mentality. Men created
the stereotype that females are inferior; emotions are merely one piece
of ammunition that is used against us. I fear you are beginning to
identify with your oppressors. In addition, people within and outside
of our nation's borders would reap great benefit from political
strategies that integrated heart and intellect.
Subject: definetly
From: brittany
Date: 05 May 2002 5:18 PM
Women should definetly be more respected. Men see us and think 'Women
are way too emotional for such a huge responsibility' Maybe women
should form a group and get a women in the next race for presidency?
Maybe you should post more messages and see what other people have to
say?
Subject: A woman president
From: Jane Evershed
Date: 05 May 2002 10:29 PM
I shall go further than just a woman president- I propose a matriarchy.
Maybe the election of a non-Thatcherian, anti-racist, anti- bourgeois
woman for president right here in the United States might be a good
move? A matriarchy whereby woman oversee the Earth’s resources, not
men! The very word matriot means one who cares for the earth. I call
myself an eco-matriarchal globalist. I value nature and the world’s
children far more than profits. The patriarchy sees nature and people
as nothing more than that which to profit from. Always has and always
will. It has an impeccable track record on this - just read history!We
also need to see fair representation in the United Nations as soon as
possible. The World Bank also needs to loan money to women to invest in
their countries. Woman all over the world are coming to the conclusion
that the only power they really have against the huge arsenal of
weapons is to refuse to continue the human species. The constitution
needs to change to in a way that does not enforce gender apartheid, it
has been changed before-why not now as we start this new
millennium?Reflections in the pool of democracy Our World is a
Rainbow...But looking at the faces of our leadersYou would never
know!The reflection in the pool of our “democracy”Is highly toxic
autocracy!Those who speak for us Are not you and me,They are not the
norm,They do not resemble usIn any way, shape or form.Just look at them
and you will findThese are not the faces of the people,They look like
rows of corn,I can’t see your problems addressed, Can you see mine
Subject: agreed
From: brittany
Date: 05 May 2002 5:12 PM
Jane, I very much agree with you, women do need to be represented more
in the United States, and I wish Elizabeth Dole hadn't dropped out of
the race a few years ago. Why not start with a women president and work
our way up? I'm kind of sad that not very many women have tried to run
for presidency, although I'm gad Bush is our president now.
Subject: A Woman President
From: Mendy McGee
Date: 06 Jun 2002 12:43 AM
As an American, I don't think it speaks well of this nation that we
have never had anything but a white, male president. Other nations have
had female prime ministers, for Pete's sake! Could money have something
to do with the fact that only white males win this position? If so, has
money insulated these gentlemen from the problems most Americans face
to such an extent that they actually can't understand what America's
real needs are? It just seems like a good-ol'-rich-boy network to me.
What do you think?
Subject: A Woman President
From: David A. Smith
Date: 08 Aug 2002 9:55 PM
I would like to see a woman president. I'm a man of few words. I'm,
also, an American Soldier, prepared to give my life for my country if
the need arises. I work along side fellow female soldiers who are
willing to give their lives for their country. I'm not any braver, than
they. A lot of women are more intelligent than I. This doesn't
affect my manhood. I just hope she's a Republican....lol.David A.
Smithmrdavsmith@aol.com
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