KWAME HOLMAN: Dunn also said she did not remember talking to investigators about using pretexting before July of this year.
REP. GREG WALDEN: You're going to tell us you never knew that they were going to use these techniques to spy on board members and impersonation of others? You just never knew?
PATRICIA DUNN: It is my sworn testimony that, until July of 2006, I was unaware that the fraudulent misrepresentation of identity was a part of the standard arsenal of HP tactics or used in this investigation.
KWAME HOLMAN: Republican Cliff Stearns of Florida pressed down on whether she would accept responsibility.
REP. CLIFF STEARNS (R), Florida: The question I want is -- yes or no -- do you think that you have any culpability in this whole fiasco? Just yes or no.
PATRICIA DUNN: I'll repeat what I said in my opening statement. I deeply regret that so many people...
REP. CLIFF STEARNS: No, that's what I don't understand. We're not talking about other people. We're talking about you personally.
PATRICIA DUNN: ... including me, that was in my opening statement. And I'd like to tell you what I'd do differently.
REP. CLIFF STEARNS: But knowing what you know today, it was wrong?
PATRICIA DUNN: Absolutely.
REP. CLIFF STEARNS: And knowing what you do today, that you have to accept responsibility. You have to accept personal responsibility for what happened; that's my interpretation of what you're telling me. Is that a correct interpretation?
PATRICIA DUNN: Sir, I do not accept personal responsibility for what happened.
REP. CLIFF STEARNS: OK.
PATRICIA DUNN: But I am very sorry for what happened.
REP. CLIFF STEARNS: OK, Mr. Chairman, I think she's basically saying she's not culpable here and she accepts no responsibility for what occurred.
KWAME HOLMAN: The final witness of the day was current Hewlett-Packard CEO and President Mark Hurd.
MARK HURD, President and CEO, Hewlett-Packard: The question remains: How did such an abuse of privacy occurred in a company renowned for its commitment to privacy? And it's an age-old story that the ends came to justify the means. The investigation team became so focused on finding the source of the leaks that they lost sight of the values of this company.
KWAME HOLMAN: Democrat Diana DeGette of Colorado wanted to know why, as a company leader, Hurd didn't see the numerous problems.
REP. DIANA DEGETTE (D), Colorado: I see all of these as red flags in the organization that were never caught by anybody at the CEO level on down. And I'm wondering if you can tell me how on Earth we had such a huge breakdown -- I mean...
MARK HURD: Congresswoman, I've seen a lot of stuff in my career.
REP. DIANA DEGETTE: So your answer would be, "Yes"?
MARK HURD: No, I think I've probably never seen anything like this. And there's two reasons, there's two ways processes break down. They break down because of bad processes that don't have checks and balances, and they break down because of poor execution. Those are the two ways; we broke down here in both.
REP. DIANA DEGETTE: OK, my question, though, is: You broke down in both, but there were red flags aplenty. Why was it that nobody in senior management of Hewlett-Packard caught any of these red flags?
MARK HURD: I'll speak for myself. I didn't catch them.
KWAME HOLMAN: The committee will have a second hearing on privacy concerns surrounding pretexting tomorrow, with executives of top communications companies.