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| PHOTOGRAPHER WENDY EWALD | |
March 7, 2002 | |
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An interview with photographer Wendy Ewald, who works with children to teach them the value of photography as a vehicle for emotional expression, and for gaining heightened awareness of the world. |
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JEFFREY BROWN: But if you're going to be a photographer, in a sense you have to intrude on people, don't you? WENDY EWALD: You do. You can't avoid that. I guess I was interested in doing it to the least degree that I could and also letting their vision inform my vision and really to combine the two into something that was a little closer to how they saw the world. | |||||||||||||||||||
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JEFFREY BROWN: For seven years beginning in 1975, Ewald lived in Kentucky and worked with children, ages six to 14. She built a primitive darkroom, taught them the mechanics of photography, and set them loose. LITTLE BOY: I took a picture of just about everything. Well, everything really. Dogs, cats, people. JEFFREY BROWN: In a documentary, children talked about their photographs. LITTLE GIRL: I got nine chickens. I eat the store's chickens, not my chickens. I don't like to eat my own chickens.
WENDY EWALD: Working with the children I was working with in Kentucky was like having accomplices in a secret game, that we were both looking at things very hard, and photographing things, which the adults didn't really understand was going on. JEFFREY BROWN: To her admirers, Ewald presents a creative answer to a question always lurking in documentary work: How honest a vision can an outsider present of his or her subjects? Philip Brookman is curator of photography at the Corcoran.
JEFFREY BROWN: And Ewald's work has gained recognition, including grants for new projects and a Macarthur "Genius" Award. She worked outside the U.S. beginning in the '80s, first in the Colombian Andes, later with Mayan children in Chiapas, Mexico. | ![]() | |||||||||||||||||||
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JEFFREY BROWN: So tell me about this photograph. "The Devil is Spying on the Girls" is the caption.
JEFFREY BROWN: It's kind of funny, "the devil spying on the girls," and this is a little boy, right? WENDY EWALD: Right, right. JEFFREY BROWN: No doubt who spies on girls. Ewald's assignment to take a photo of a dream was easy for the Mexican children. WENDY EWALD: In Mayan religion, dreams are as important and as real as waking reality. So I only had to mention the word fantasias and the next day they arrived with all these things, props they had made and began making these wonderful, playful, dramatic pictures.
WENDY EWALD: It's a stage of childhood, and I have a six-year-old son now, you know, who also loves to make violent images. JEFFREY BROWN: In a village in India, a new experience, working with children who'd never held a camera. To show them how it works, she had them pose for her. WENDY EWALD: When I started looking at the photographs, I realized the pictures really had a power to them because there is a gaze that's very intense in each one of the pictures, as if they're being looked at by a camera for the first time or they're looking back at the camera for the first time.
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| JEFFREY BROWN: You ask children to photograph their dreams. Why dreams?
JEFFREY BROWN: In South Africa in 1992, Ewald says, dreaming and fantasy life took a back seat to harsh reality. The violence in the photos, though posed, was the stuff of everyday life. Ewald worked separately with groups of black and Afrikaner children. One assignment was to photograph things they did not like in their community. Nine-year-old Afrikaner Nicholine Keyler took this out- of-focus photo.
JEFFREY BROWN: When Ewald asked the girl why the picture was out of focus, she said her mother told her that's the way black people turn out in photographs. JEFFREY BROWN: Tell me about this one. I loved this image-- "Granny Having a Smoke."
JEFFREY BROWN: Just about to drop. WENDY EWALD: About to fall. But it's just such a beautiful picture, beautifully composed, and the textures of her face and the shack are so well portrayed. JEFFREY BROWN: Back in this country, Ewald has taken her methods directly into the classroom, working with teachers and children in the Durham, North Carolina, Public Schools. | ![]() | |||||||||||||||||||
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WENDY EWALD: The only thing that should move is this finger right here. You have to make a decision about what you want in your picture to be the most important thing, and which you want to be in focus. You want to be the most important thing?
WENDY EWALD: I am an artist and I need to see pictures that show me what the world is like. And the way to get those pictures is by constructing a situation in which... in which I teach, and the product of that teaching are the images. JEFFREY BROWN: The exhibition moves on to Providence, and then Kansas City, later in the year. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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