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| March 2, 1999 |
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The Washington Monument, an internationally renown symbol in the nation's capital, is getting a face-lift. After this look at the monument's renovation, Margaret Warner interviews Michael Graves, the architect that designed the distinctive scaffolding that currently surrounds the monument. |
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MARGARET WARNER: The Washington Monument has stood as a symbol of the nation's capital for more than a century.
MARGARET WARNER: This tribute to America's first President was a long time in the making. Architect Robert Mills won the original design competition in the 1830's. STEPHEN LORENZETTI: This is the Robert Mills' design that won in 1836.
MARGARET WARNER: The Park Service decided a lengthy overhaul was in
order, inside and out. But it didn't want to create the same kind of
eyesore the last renovation had, with its bulky steel scaffolding that
obscured the beauty of the landmark. A public/private KATIE EDWARDS: I think it's hideous. I'm really disappointed. I was looking forward to seeing it, and you can't see anything. LEE GLAZE: I'm an art teacher, so it's pretty interesting. And I also like to work with clay, so I love the style and the simplicity of it.
MARGARET WARNER: The Graves scaffolding will stand as the face of the Washington Monument until the restoration is complete, expected in July of 2000. |
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MARGARET WARNER: And with me is Michael Graves. Why did this project interest you?
MARGARET WARNER: This kind of creative scaffolding is much more common in Europe, isn't it?
MARGARET WARNER: So, you mean even when you're building a building from scratch? MICHAEL GRAVES: Mm-hmm.
MICHAEL GRAVES: I added the mesh because I thought it was important to describe what the problem was, that my eight-year-old that I mentioned wouldn't know anything about pointing, for instance. Pointing is that act of taking mortar out very carefully and putting new mortar in, repairing the stone, and fixing that surface, the outer surface of the stone, any cracks. All of that will be fixed and replaced. And I thought it was important to highlight or amplify that question of, what is restoration? Why do we need to restore buildings? Aren't they good for all time? No, in fact they need their health care as well as we do. MARGARET WARNER: So you mean by the pattern that you used with the mesh and the aluminum, you were trying to suggest the mortar underneath?
MARGARET WARNER: I was amazed to read that the Park Service had decreed that your scaffolding is supposed to support all these workers and materials, but could not be actually riveted into the Monument in any way. Was that hard to work around? MICHAEL GRAVES: Not at all. The scaffolding is about three feet from the monument itself, enough room for workers to get through, around each other, and so on working on it. And we thought that it was important that the scaffolding simply touch or lean against the Monument. But if one side is leaning and the other side is leaning, they counterbalance each other, so it's not a structural problem at all.
MICHAEL GRAVES: It does surprise me, because last week I was here for another meeting for another project, and as I was going to my hotel, I asked the cab driver to take me around the Monument, "One turn around please," and he said he would. And he asked -- he then told me that, did I know the Monument was closed? I said, yes, I didn't want to go in, I just wanted to see the scaffolding. He said, "Well, it's very interesting," not knowing who I was or what my role in this was. He said, "It's very interesting. All my fares"-- in other words, all his passengers that have gone to the scaffolding have said -- "I like it better this way than the former way." And Robert Mills is a favorite architect of mine, the original architect, so I wouldn't want him to hear that, but nevertheless, I like that comment. So I was all pumped up that a lot of people liked it. MARGARET WARNER: Well, some in our piece liked it also. MICHAEL GRAVES: Yes, of course. |
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MARGARET WARNER: Now, the critics have tried to describe you, and they've described you as a postmodernist or postmodern classicist. I mean, one -- do those terms mean anything to you? How do you define yourself?
MARGARET WARNER: How do you describe -- do you describe your style? MICHAEL GRAVES: Well, you can, but to -- to label people is a thing that you guys do to us that is too easy -- because it's -- whether music or poetry or politics, you have to -- you have to give the description a greater breadth. And I'm interested in lots of things in architecture, but in terms of making buildings that are accessible and making language that is accessible -- the language of architecture -- because, you know, if an architect makes a door or a window, it comes with a whole lot of baggage. And if - MARGARET WARNER: You mean expectations people have? MICHAEL GRAVES: Yes, yes. Where is the front door? Where is the back door? What do they mean in our society? What's front and back? What's the threshold? What's -- what is the facade of a building here in Washington, let's say, say to us as we approach that building? And that's the language that is carried out every day in architecture, those kinds of expectations. It's not to say that you simply repeat the language. You might turn it on its head, you might change it, you might vary it in various ways, but you first of all have to -- you speak a language that uses accent, uses change, uses difference. But unless you're speaking a language people get, nobody's going to get anything. So I'm trying in my architecture to refine the kind of language that I've been working with for 35 or 40 years and make that language more explicit and clearer every day.
MICHAEL GRAVES: I haven't read that one. Actually, it was a wonderful partnership between Frank Wells and Michael Asner and myself in terms of constructing that facade. And they really pushed me to say something about what they were, what they stood for, and how they supported their part of the industry, the film part of films of Disney. And the Seven Dwarfs -- "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" was the first full-length movie, and so I think it was Frank Wells who said, "Why don't we use them somehow on the facade?" So using the kind of classical idea of Hermes to support the roof was an idea that came rather quickly, and then we developed the facade using that. I don't really see it as a gimmick. They are the -- you are working for an entertainment company. You're not doing a tombstone for somebody. You're not doing something that is altogether serious. You're working for Disney. MARGARET WARNER: Now, as we noted in the piece, you also don't just build buildings. I think one of your most recognizable, I don't know, symbols or pieces of work is that Alessi Teakettle. And you design all kinds of things you sell in your shop in Princeton. I read one article that said you were the only architect in America who had his own bridal registry. I'm just wondering, why do you do that? Why do you -- why do you - MICHAEL GRAVES: I haven't been married that often. MARGARET WARNER: I think they meant you provide one for people. MICHAEL GRAVES: Yes, yes, yes. MARGARET WARNER: Why do you do this? Why does it interest you?
MARGARET WARNER: Well, thank you very much, Mr. Graves, and congratulations. MICHAEL GRAVES: Thank you. |
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