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THE AMERICAN PERSPECTIVE

June 8, 1999

 

The foreign ministers of the seven wealthiest democracies and Russia agreed on the form of a peace agreement for Kosovo. Following the completion of negotiations, U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright spoke with reporters.

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SEC. ALBRIGHT: I just wanted -- I know it's a little chaotic, but I wanted to have a chance to talk with all of you, and especially those who have been traveling with me.

Let me say that today's agreement by the G-8 foreign ministers on the text of a U.N. resolution related to the crisis in Kosovo is a major step towards bringing this confrontation to an end on acceptable terms. I would like to thank all my colleague foreign ministers for the hard work that went into this, and especially the Russian foreign minister for the partnership that he made so clear in seeking this peaceful resolution. And I think those of you that heard him in this press conference understand how Russia has also worked in order to bring this crisis to an end.

The resolution is fully consistent with the terms of the Chernomyrdin-Ahtisaari agreement and with the conditions established by NATO and the international community. The major elements include a requirement that all Serb forces leave; that an international security presence be deployed with substantial NATO participation and a unified command. The establishment of an international civilian authority is also called for to assist the Kosovars as they prepare for democratic self-government.

It is our understanding that the resolution will be cosponsored by all G-8 members who serve on the Security Council, and the others who are not on the Security Council -- such as Japan has already indicated that they would cosponsor -- we will move quickly to gain support from other Council members and look for action in New York on the resolution as soon as possible.

At the same time, it is essential that negotiations for a military technical agreement resume. The regime in Belgrade should stop shilly-shallying around. In case that's hard to translate, stalling. It should proceed to implement the principles incorporated in this draft resolution and approved by the Serb parliament last week. Each day of denial leads only to another day's destruction and another day of delay in preparing for the return of refugees and displaced to their homes.

NATO is interested in deeds, not words. We must see a demonstrable and verifiable start towards the rapid withdrawal of all Serb forces. Until that happens, we intend to keep both the military and diplomatic pressure on and at the same time we are taking a longer view. Tomorrow, the G-8 will resume its meetings, including a discussion of a strategy for fully integrating southeast Europe into the continent's democratic mainstream. We want to make sure that this confrontation does not serve simply as the prelude to another. We want to end this conflict and establish a new foundation for a lasting peace.

The bottom line in assessing the last 24 hours here is that we got what we came for and I congratulate all of my G-8 colleagues and join them in the hope that our deliberations have, in fact, contributed to the cause of peace and justice in Kosovo

I'd be glad to take your questions.

Barry?

REPORTER: Not to quibble, but the "NATO at its core," NATO in charge, that isn't in the body of the resolution; it's an annex? And if that's true, legally speaking, does an annex have as much force? Are you comfortable with that as you would be if it were in the resolution itself?

SEC. ALBRIGHT: Yes. It was decided -- we went through a lot of different discussions about how to include the G-8 principles as well as the Chernomyrdin-Ahtisaari document in a way that fit in with UN -- U-N-ese -- and decided that the best thing to do was to have appendices to the resolution, and they have the same force as the resolution itself.

REPORTER: Yeah. Could you tell us what the other appendix is about?

SEC. ALBRIGHT: One appendix is the G-8 principles, and the other is the Chernomyrdin-Ahtisaari document.

MR. RUBIN: -- in the back --

REPORTER: Madame Secretary, compared to what you said with what Mr. Ivanov said, it seems like you are saying two different things. Ivanov seems to be suggesting that things are still up in the air until they get to the UN Can you explain that, what seems to me to be a discrepancy between what you are both saying about what the security force will be like on the ground?

SEC. ALBRIGHT: I think, as a statement of fact, we have already made -- if you look at the numbers of the security force and the fact that NATO will have the largest component of it, it -- obviously, there will be a NATO commander. But what is still in discussion is who else will be a part of it and how those forces will be related to the "NATO at the core." But it does say -- (confers with staff) -- it makes quite clear in the appendix, that it has a unified-command-and- control part of it; and, therefore, whatever other forces come in will then be integrated with that.

REPORTER: Madame Secretary, but in the final analysis, it is true then that the resolution will not be adopted until after there is a bombing pause?

SEC. ALBRIGHT: As it has worked out -- I think that we have worked very hard on the sequencing of it, which is that the resolution is here presented in what I would imagine as its final form. I have to say that, as a former permanent representative at the UN, it doesn't happen very often that you get a document that has been drafted by foreign ministers. So chances are that it will be adopted as it stands.

And at the same time, the military-technical agreement has to go forward. And then, as a part of that, there has to be the beginning of the withdrawal. It has to be verifiable, there will be a pause, and then there will be the final adoption. As you know, in New York it will go into "blue" so that it will be in its permanent form, and then it will be voted on. But all of this, we talked about at great length and tried to figure out simultaneity in all its languages.

REPORTER: Madame Secretary, has anyone yet been in touch with the Chinese about this? And if not, who will it be? Will it be President Ahtisaari who is there now? Does he have a copy of this? And what is the timetable for informing the Chinese and making sure they won't oppose this in the Security Council?

SEC. ALBRIGHT: President Ahtisaari is in China, and he has obviously been in touch. Chancellor Schroeder has been in touch with the Chinese previously, and it is my understanding that others have been in touch with the Chinese and we will have been, also, and meetings have begun in an informal way in New York already.

REPORTER: Two questions, Madame Secretary; one on the sequencing. How much -- what's the minimum amount of time that you envision elapsing between the first sign of Serb withdrawal and a bombing pause? The second question, I know that the Russian foreign minister said that the participation of Russian troops would be decided at a later time. Did he indicate to you informally in any way of Russia's willingness to provide troops and in what numbers?

SEC. ALBRIGHT: First of all, I don't want to give you a minimum time, because this is something that will be based on a military assessment when they see a verifiable number of the Serb forces departing. And I think all of us would obviously like to have this happen as soon as possible, but I'm not going to give you a minimum amount of time.

I think it is, on the second question, there have been a number of discussions over the last weeks -- when Mr. Talbott has been in Moscow, in my discussions on the phone with Foreign Minister Ivanov, including here, general discussions about how -- whether and how Russian forces would be a part of this. But these are, at this stage, general discussions.

REPORTER: Madame Secretary, one of the issues apparently with Russia was the question of how to refer to the tribunal. Can you give us some sense of what the discussion was that you had?

And how do you interpret the meaning of the language you've adopted? Does it give the tribunal freedom to do everything that you know and that it says it has to do?

SEC. ALBRIGHT: We feel very comfortable with the way that the War Crimes Tribunal was mentioned and, in fact, have it in -- there was some discussion -- one of the other parts, as you know, about UN resolutions is the question is what is the first word? And there was some thought that it would be less strong than what it ended up, and it ends up "demands". So, as you know, that's as strong as it gets, and it demands full cooperation by all concerned. And I think that -- and it allows the tribunal to do its work.

REPORTER: Madame Secretary, I know you've been focusing on events here, but do you know if Milosevic has given the order to his commanders in Kosovo to withdraw?

SEC. ALBRIGHT: I do not know the answer to that. We would expect him to do that as quickly as possible. And I would think that the message from here, that you have the G-8 foreign ministers have agreed that this should happen and a sequence has been worked out, unless he is totally tone deaf, he should be getting the message that it is time to withdraw.

MR. RUBIN: We have time for two more questions. Right in here, and then here.

REPORTER: Madame Secretary, a philosophical as well as a diplomatic question. The UN was bypassed when this conflict began, for obvious reasons. How important is it now that the UN will be ensuring or will be giving its imprimatur to the peace? And I know you don't like historical questions and you've been very busy on the day to day, but have you taken any lessons, early ones, from the way this conflict started, the way it's been waged, and now in the way in which it appears to be ending?

SEC. ALBRIGHT: Well, first of all, let me say that the UN is going to be very much a part of this phase, and a great deal of this resolution is drafted in such a way that it makes clear that the UN is -- first of all, this is going to be passed as a UN resolution, but then in terms of their responsibility for the civilian implementation. Just for the record, I did call the secretary-general whatever -- about an hour ago -- to tell him that we had gotten this far on it, and he was very pleased, and we look forward to cooperation.

I don't want to get overly professorial, because otherwise we'll be here 50 minutes, on the lessons. But what I find very interesting in this, and I, clearly, in my own way will be drawing this together, is that here we are working, first of all, the 19 democracies of NATO, and that in itself has been a very exciting way of watching democracies operate, some of them that have divided governments, coalition governments, and all of them very conscious of their responsibilities as elected officials, especially the parliamentary democracies.

I have also been very intrigued -- as some of you know, I have studied a lot about how various European organizations work together and how international organizations work together, and you can see as a part of this that practically everybody has been heard from; that various organizations have fulfilled some of their responsibilities already, and some of them are going to be called upon to cooperate with each other as we go into the implementation phase.

I have also been very pleased in watching how countries have in fact worked together. And in that, I would like to specifically note the role that Russia has played. Despite the fact that clearly we have had differences over a number of issues, I think that the partnership exhibited here and the work done by Foreign Minister Ivanov and, clearly, the work previously done by Mr. Chernomyrdin with President Ahtisaari is very important. So it's a combination of organizations and country partnerships, and then individuals doing their part.

MR. RUBIN: Last -- quick question. Yes?

REPORTER: Robert -- from NRC from the Netherlands. Madame Secretary, could you explain what is the exact purpose of making the Ahtisaari peace plan an annex to the resolution? Is it to accommodate the Russians?

SEC. ALBRIGHT: No, I think that it was to make clear -- first of all, there were a great many details in that agreement that were germane to what we were doing, and there was some thought about whether you put all of this within the resolution. A lot of it is not written in UN language. And it seemed like the simplest thing to do is to make these two documents annexes. I misspoke before; they're not appendices, they're annexes.

MR. RUBIN: Thank you very much.

 


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