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KFOR BRIEFING

June 14, 1999

 

Commander of KFOR, General Michael Jackson briefed reporters on efforts to stabilize Kosovo and the continuing standoff with Russian troops at the Pristina airport.

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GEN. JACKSON: Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon.

Can I just say before I begin that you probably noticed that I was talking to Senor Sergio De Mello, who is the newly appointed interim special representative of the United Nations secretary- general? He has just been actually been given a message, which requires him to go on. He has got a helicopter waiting. And so he sends his apologies, but he feels he ought to move on directly. May I turn to what I want to say this afternoon?

We are now well into our third day on the ground here in Kosovo. And I want to give you some perspective on our progress to date. We are operating in accordance, as strictly as we are able, with the very precise timetable, which is contained in the Military Technical Agreement, this of course being the result of my discussions with the Yugoslav commanders last week.

I want to stress that this is a carefully synchronized and precisely planned military operation. And the synchronization I'll come back to; it's very important, because we are dealing here with three distinct primary forces: my own, the KFOR; the VJ, the Yugoslav Army; and the Yugoslav Special Police. And the movements of the latter two forces are governed by the terms of the Military Technical Agreement and so is the movement of KFOR, where synchronization of its advance is required.

It is, therefore, a complex sequence of events to ensure that NATO forces deploy throughout Kosovo., as the VJ and the MUP leave, avoiding hostility, avoiding tension where we can, but also ensuring that we do not leave, between the withdrawing and advancing forces, a security vacuum. There is also the question of disengagement by the Serb forces from the KLA and more of that in a moment. But I do stress that this has to be carefully timetabled to make it work.

I also stress again, if I may take this opportunity, that there are many dangers still -- minefields, unsafe buildings, unexploded ordnance -- and I just urge caution on all people moving about.

We've also seen -- regrettably, but perhaps not surprisingly -- in the last 24 hours areas of tension that have come about. But I do recall -- I think it was only four days ago; I can't remember -- I do recall that I said I expected it to be a volatile operation to begin with. We are doing our very best to minimize such volatility.

So we're on schedule, and I believe we are doing the tasks which are required of us by United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 and by the Military Technical Agreement.

Just looking back for a moment, once there was verification of the Serb withdrawal, NATO Secretary-General Solana ordered a suspension of the NATO airstrikes. Later that day the adoption of the Security Council resolution opened the way for KFOR's deployment. And this began Saturday morning at first light.

During the course of the day, United Kingdom forces moved up the Kacanik Pass, supported by helicopters of the United States. These forces reached Pristina late on the Saturday afternoon and, as you call all see, are very much in evidence in the area. And yesterday evening my own forward headquarters was established just on the western outskirts of the town.

Going back to the early morning, simultaneously, French forces crossed from the Titovo area east of the main road over the high ground into Kosovo. and had some difficulties with minefields, which caused some delay, which -- whilst they breached them. I am glad to say this tricky operation was successfully concluded without any casualties. Now French forces are in and around Giljane (sp).

The German forces initially went up through the Kacanik defile and then moved west, and are in and around Prizren, as many of you, I know, have seen for yourselves.

The Italian forces in the force have also now deployed and are present in Pec, Dacani (?) and Djakovica.

Finally, US forces have now taken over the responsibility for the security of the Kacanik defile. We have deployed over 14,000 soldiers into Kosovo. within the space of 48 hours using one main route and one or two subsidiary routes, I think a fairly remarkable performance by the multinational forces in KFOR, for whom I am most grateful for everything they have done so far. We have met our deadlines. We've got to where we said we would get on time, and the whole operation is pretty much on schedule. And it will remain so, where there will be more troop movements over the next 24 hours and you will see perhaps an intensification of activity as further troops move up from the border with Macedonia in greater numbers, and synchronized with this -- and I use that word again so that you do understand that the agreement requires us to synchronize movements -- synchronized with that so the Serb withdrawal will continue.

I trust you've all studied your Military Technical Agreement and the map which is appended to it, and you will see exactly what I am talking about; and where people say there are still Serb forces north of Pristina, they're perfectly entitled to be there at the moment, according to the timetable of the agreement.

The end of the withdrawal period is the 20th of June. That is 11 days from entry into force.

May I now say a word about the KLA. They have given the public undertaking themselves to demilitarize, and that is required of them in very clear language in the United Nations Security Council Resolution 11 -- 1244. 1244.

I will hold them to that. I look to them to behave with responsibility and with restraint. And I expect to formalize these arrangements in the very near future. Now a slightly different subject.

There has been some preoccupation, and not a little speculation, about the Eurasian forces' presence here in Kosovo. You will know that a relatively small force, an advance party of an eventual Eurasian contingent to KFOR, is present on the ground at Pristina Airport. These Eurasian troops are part of the KFOR operation, and I look forward in due course to assimilating the Eurasian contingent within the force as a whole. We are now discussing with the Eurasian side, the details of their future deployment.

Now, this is necessary because, as you know, Russia was not present at the original Force Generation Conference; that is, the mechanism by which forces are offered to a statement of requirements. Consequently, its area of responsibility could not be preplanned. This, ladies and gentlemen, whatever the speculation, is almost entirely a political matter for which discussions, but between the relevant capitals, are still going on.

Can I just -- and I am changing subject -- can I just mention, with regret, that the last 24 hours have not been without fatalities? There have been two caused by NATO forces acting entirely in their own self-defense. They are perfectly entitled to use lethal force in their self-defense, and that is what happened.

I regret the other fatalities. And to you particularly, ladies and gentlemen, I know there have been to my knowledge three amongst your own body. I do urge on you, please, to have care. Ask us for advice, if you have any doubts, before carrying out whatever activity you have in mind.

May I finish by paying tribute to the skill and the determination, and the courage, of all the personnel involved in this operation Joint Guardian; as it is known by NATO, the KFOR operation?

It's thanks to them, and I acknowledge that wholeheartedly, that we have met the demanding objectives set out in our plans. We are in a difficult, volatile and, from time to time, dangerous environment. This, I hope, will improve very rapidly and we will be able to complete this early 11 days of withdrawal and then settle the situation and begin to build that level of confidence which would allow normal civilian activity to resume in the very near future. That's all I wanted to say by way of formal statement, but I'm very happy now to take some questions.

Yes?

If I point, I might be accused of the odd bit of favoritism, so I'll leave it to the man behind --

Q Sir, Robert Weiner (SP) from CNN. Leaving the Russians to purely political consequences aside, from a military point of view, once the technical agreement was signed and your forces were prepared to move, why, in fact, was the operation delayed 24 hours, which, from a military point of view, created a vacuum allowing the Russians to come here and create new facts on the ground?

GEN. JACKSON: I mentioned the word speculation earlier. It's your view that the operation was delayed 24 hours. It certainly is not mine. Let us go back to that vital word, "synchronization." We have gone to great lengths, with very careful and detailed liaison with the Serb forces to ensure that all movements are linked, both to avoid intermingling, although that occasionally happens, and equally well to avoid security vacuums and equally well to allow them the quite complex task of withdrawing a large number of men and equipment.

Q Mark Laity, BBC. On the matter of the Russians, can you give us any more information on what the situation on the air field is now? How much of it do they control, how much of it do you control? And there's a couple of points in particular. We understand that the numbers there are much larger than we had expected. That there's -- 170 was the figure originally, but some people are saying it's well over 300. Who are these people, and what is their relationship with the Serbs, who they seem to let on, as opposed to you, who they seem not to let on? I have a follow-up.

GEN. JACKSON: Well, first of all, as to numbers, personally, I have not invited the Eurasian contingent commander to hold a muster parade to allow me to count them. So I am not going to speculate. It's of the order of 200 is my belief.

But I don't frankly understand why these numbers appear to be so important. If you go to SFOR, there is a Eurasian contingent in SFOR. There will be a Eurasian contingent in IFOR. They've got to start somewhere. This is an advance party. In due course, greater numbers will come. I welcome that.

Q Yeah, I think the reason it's of concern is that unlike SFOR, where their arrival was organized in advance and expected, that they arrived somewhat unexpectedly, having apparently broken specific pledges given by Mr. Ivanov.

GEN. JACKSON: Well, Mark, I am not going to indulge in political speculation of that nature.

Q So that's why -- you asked what the interest is. That's why I think there is interest.

GEN. JACKSON: (Off mike) -- to be political and not military --

Q But I think --

GEN. JACKSON: -- and therefore you're addressing it to the wrong person and --

Q I'm just going --

GEN. JACKSON: Now thank you.

Q And the follow-up question was what -- which bits of the airfield are yours and which bits are theirs?

GEN. JACKSON: I'm not in a turf war with them. They are on the airfield. They regard it as important. It is not important to me at this stage. What is important to me is getting this job done on the ground, and I'm not going to get into that sort of conversation, because I don't regard it as being helpful or important.

Q General Jackson, Douglas Hamilton, Reuters --

GEN. JACKSON: Where are you? Can't see you.

Q Over here.

GEN. JACKSON: Yes.

Q Here I am. Do your men find that they're getting better, speedier cooperation from the VJ than from the MUP, that the VJ have a better understanding, right down through the ranks, of the terms of the MTA? And is the VJ taking their dead home with them to Serbia?

GEN. JACKSON: Taking --

Q Their dead, their casualties. Their dead.

GEN. JACKSON: On the latter point, I have absolutely no knowledge at all.

As to degrees of compliance, I think, which lies behind your question, they are of course doing rather two different tasks. It's a very much more complex task for an army, with all its heavy equipment and logistics, to withdraw than it is for a number of individuals put together which represent a police force. So I'm not going to indulge in sort of "points out of 10."

What I can say is that, again, to a great extent, thanks to careful and detailed liaison -- almost minute by minute at times -- I have no concerns regarding compliance on the part of any of the Serb forces as -- in their withdrawal, as required by the Military Technical Agreement.

Q General Jackson, John Stowe (SP), Channel Four News. And I'm waving here.

GEN. JACKSON: Thank you.

Q General, two things: There are houses still being burned by departing Serb forces, even as near as between here and the airport.

And there are also reports of some Serb forces, taking off the military reports, of reverting to civilian clothes and departing with their weapons into the surrounding countryside. Are you concerned about either of these elements? And do not both describe the need for very many more troops than are presently envisaged in the KFOR deployment?

GEN. JACKSON: Thank you for that. I am grateful to use that question, perhaps as a vehicle for a statement here.

The complexity and size of what is going on with the withdrawing Army of considerable numbers and the KFOR coming in, in large numbers, and a volatile situation with emotions running high -- I am not so foolish as to offer a guarantee of perfection because that would impossible to achieve. What I will say is this: We have planned it as carefully as we can. I have stressed the importance I have given to getting the liaison and, therefore, the movement right, to avoid security vacuums.

But at the end of the day, I cannot with the forces I have, be everywhere all the time; I mean, that is just an ideal, which is not achievable much though I might wish to. And, therefore, unpalatable though it may be, I have to accept that there will be things going on which I rather did not. But I may not be there at the right time. We can react, we can do everything we can to prevent it, and that is our intention. But I really want to say that in all seriousness, so that expectations do not go out of realism.

Q General, just as a follow-up: Within these first three days, have you begun to see what the global -- (inaudible) -- you really need in theater is, given your recognition there are limits? Are you pressuring the political masters on the question of an eventual size, and what is that size?

GEN. JACKSON: I think it is quite early days yet, John, if I may say so, to come to a considered view of that nature. We started with the 15-odd thousand. We had, I think, a fairly well-known figure, whatever it was, three days ago. We have had considerable forces coming in. And they are still coming in and will continue to do so, both by sea and by air, from Greece, Macedonia, et cetera.

As to the eventual size of the force when everything settles down, I am going to leave that as an open question at the moment because it is hard to judge the circumstances before you have got there, if that doesn't sound too convoluted.

If I understood you right, the question of that airfield is not so important, and you are more worried about the dynamic of the --

GEN. JACKSON: Very much so.

Q So, what's the importance of the airport, and given the fact that it was the first target of your forces to occupy?

GEN. JACKSON: No, it was not. Again, this is one of these myths that's arisen, no doubt to accentuate the spice of the story. I might have put my tactical headquarters there for a short while. Frankly, now I've seen the ground, it's too far out of town. I'm a little concerned about unexploded ordnance. So I'm very happy to leave the airfield in Eurasian hands and come here. (Laughter.) No, it's true. I'm much happier where I am, which is just out -- in the factory. And if you think that's a feeble excuse, you're absolutely wrong, because I'm quite sure my recce party said, "No way, I don't want to be here, we want to be closer in."

There's an obsession with it. They're obsessed. (Referring to the reporters on the question of the airfield.)

I can do one or two more. I'm about to melt up here.

Q (Off mike) -- Independent in London.

GEN. JACKSON: Sorry. (Inaudible).

Q Can I just ask you very simply on the question of the airfield, who, exactly, is controlling what comes in? Is it Russians who control --

GEN. JACKSON: It's a pretty academic question because nothing's coming in. Now, I think I've said enough about the airfield. You're beginning to bore me with it.

Q All right. Can I ask you --

GEN. JACKSON: It is NOT my priority! My priority is to deliver this agreement.

Q That wasn't my question. But can I ask you a supplementary question, which is --

GEN. JACKSON: Well, not about the airport, please.

Q -- which is, have plans been made to question any of the departing MUP or VJ -- (inaudible) -- at least to war crimes? Are there any plans to do so?

GEN. JACKSON: That would be entirely a matter for the authorities responsible for doing that. It's not my responsibility. And please read -- please read -- the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 and the Military Technical Agreement, and then you wouldn't have to ask that question.

Thank you very much.

One more, I think. One more.

Q General -- (off mike).

GEN. JACKSON: No, I -- it really is getting very hot.

Q (Name inaudible) -- Channel Four News. Just --

GEN. JACKSON: Can I have a wave, please? I can't zero -- yes, thank you.

Q It's not about the airport, it's about the Russians You said you would welcome them as an advance party for a much greater force.

GEN. JACKSON: Yeah.

Q After that welcoming party is complete, what would you like the Russians to do when they're here in some numbers?

GEN. JACKSON: Well, I would like them to do what everybody else in KFOR is doing to do. If you want me to go 'round that particular objective again, I will do so.

Q (Off mike.)

GEN. JACKSON: Ah, well, I thought you were, put you didn't pose your question very accurately, in that case. I think -- I assume you heard what I said when I was talking about the fact that this is a political matter at this stage. Did you hear that?

Q (Off mike.)

GEN. JACKSON: Well, that's the answer. That's it. That's it. Now, I'm sorry, I'm absolutely melting.

Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you very much indeed.

 


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