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The Health Unit is a partnership with the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation. |
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MARGARET WARNER: The two men said they were confident the transaction would survive antitrust review by federal regulators. But at midday, a third drug maker crashed the party with a surprise bid of its own. The new player is Pfizer, Inc., the maker of the anti-impotence drug Viagra, as well as Visine and Bengay. Pfizer, the largest of these three companies, made an $82 billion offer to buy Warner-Lambert. That's $11 billion more than the American Home Products deal. Whichever company ultimately acquires Warner-Lambert, it would be just the latest in a series of mergers in the pharmaceutical industry. |
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VIREN MEHTA, Pharmaceutical Industry Analyst: The industry is in throes of major transformation driven by the new tools of science that is forcing companies to have large amount of cash flow so they can rapidly capitalize on the new science and market them around the world. MARGARET WARNER: And so you're saying that these companies just feel they're too small to what, compete globally and do what they need to do?
MARGARET WARNER: What would you add to that Mr. Palumbo? FRANCIS PALUMBO, University of Maryland: I think the companies also want to make sure that they have a broader line of products than they currently do because in this era of managed care and formularies, which are the list of drugs that patients can get their prescriptions from, the companies want to be as broad as possible so that they can get as many of their drugs on the formulary as possible, and they can do this by merging with or acquiring other drug companies. |
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MARGARET WARNER: So, Dr. Wolfe, what is the implication of this merger and others for consumers?
The other thing that is most concerning to me is that we have in this concentration of power a corruption of the political process. The industry outspent the tobacco industry in the last couple of years in terms of lobbying Congress and the bigger they are, the more money they spend, they're able to extend patents on drugs. There is currently a battle where companies are incurring millions of dollars to extend patents on drugs, so that the political process is likely to be even more corrupted by the increased amount of power that these mergers represent.
VIREN MEHTA: Well, the research expenses are going up, but what we must recognize is that the science that is driving the new round of product discoveries is in its infancy. To use the language analogy, we're in a babbling phase. And when we go through this transition, it is always an inefficient process of investing more while keeping the existing cost structure in place. And that is where the rub comes in. |
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VIREN MEHTA: I'm not sure that that is really true. MARGARET WARNER: Let him finish. DR. SIDNEY WOLFE: We haven't seen this yet. MARGARET WARNER: Mr. Mehta, go ahead. VIREN MEHTA: I think the issue really is, are they investing the larger bounty more productively? And the evidence is mixed so far, and it is partly because of the management inefficiencies but mostly because of the earlier stages in which we are traveling through this journey to the more perfect drugs. MARGARET WARNER: All right, Mr. Palumbo weigh in on this debate here about the implications for research and new drugs.
DR. SIDNEY WOLFE: Extending patents. FRANCIS PALUMBO: At the same time -- extending patents, thank you. At the same time with managed care and the competition to get drugs out to formularies, drugs are coming on and going off various formularies for prescription payment plans and effectively reducing what we call the life cycle of the drug, the amount of times that company can really get a profitable product. So in effect the patent runs out before it really does -- in terms of sales. MARGARET WARNER: Let's go back to the merger question. What is the evidence...do you agree with Mr. Mehta, that the evidence is really quite mixed in terms of what these companies do once they do merge in the research area? FRANCIS PALUMBO: Well, of course it's mixed because you have all different kinds of companies doing these mergers. So if you have two strong companies merging, you may see the R&D continue on down a very nice path. But quite often what you see are two companies merging, one of which doesn't have a lot in the pipeline. So they're happy to hook on with another company because now they have a life again where they thought they might be on the slippery slope. MARGARET WARNER: Mr. Mehta, now respond to Dr. Wolfe's point about costs. And this is one that, of course, comes up in any merger. Are you having the kind of consolidation that eventually either drives up costs or certainly keeps costs from falling? |
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MARGARET WARNER: What do you make of that theory, Dr. Wolfe? DR. SIDNEY WOLFE: Well it's an interesting theory but the facts is thus far in the wake of these 29 mergers and acquisitions savings have not been passed on to the consumer. The clear benefactor in this increased amount of power that happens with mergers and acquisitions are the stockholders if they're in and out at the right time, the CEO's and the people at the corporate level. There's really no evidence thus far that patients have benefited. And I'm afraid that the evidence thus far is that the patients may have been harmed. I am very, very worried about this and unlike a lot of other industries where it's just purely economic, we're talking about health and safety issues here, and a few of the wrong kind of moves that I suspect may happen with these kinds of mergers just multiplying are going to pay off in terms of damage to patients.
MARGARET WARNER: Mr. Palumbo, what do you think of the implications of this for the cost of drugs? FRANCIS PALUMBO: Well, I think first of all that the manufacturers have not been hurt in all of this. But I think the retailers have been hurt. If you look at the way drug pricing is, the manufacturers basically get their price. Now they do provide rebates and discounts and so forth, but they're still making a fair profit on the products. The retailers on the other hand are working on tremendously small margins now because of the competition at the retail level. So drugs at that level have become more of a commodity. Given that, we see drugs going on and off different formularies, and
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MARGARET WARNER: Mr. Mehta, let me ask you about one final point, all of you, quickly on this. The Wall Street Journal in an article today said that really they thought that the industry was ripe for a new wave of consolidation and that we're moving into a new era in which there is going to be a totally global drug industry with just a handful of big companies. Do you think we're headed that way? VIREN MEHTA: In fact, that is inevitable because when we try to make a list of companies that may not be interested in participating in this round of consolidation, we are hard pressed to come up with even one name and it is because to have capacity to market your drugs around the world, 5 percent market share is no longer enough. MARGARET WARNER: Do you agree?
MARGARET WARNER: And I assume that this is a bad idea? DR. SIDNEY WOLFE: The goal to break past two or three percent is good for investors and so forth there's really no evidence that patients have benefited from it. I'm concerned about the harm that has already happened and will continue when these kinds of things are allowed to go through. MARGARET WARNER: All right. Go ahead, Mr. Mehta.
DR. SIDNEY WOLFE: The sooner the better. MARGARET WARNER: Thank you, gentlemen, we have to leave it there. Thanks very much. FRANCIS PALUMBO: Thank you.
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