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GARTH ANCIER

March 21, 2000
Garth Ancier

 

Media correspondent Terence Smith talks about the future of television with Garth Ancier, president of NBC Entertainment.

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TERENCE SMITH: Technologically, how do you think television will be different five years from now, 10 years from now?

 
A different world of television
GARTH ANCIER: Well, there are so many things playing at the moment. It's hard to know exactly what will be happening. You'll be having certainly some high-definition television, some more than we have now, as -- you know, I know I'm an early adopter. So I don't expect that most people will be having high-definition sets like I bought a year ago, and there are only a few shows in high def, but it's really a fantastic experience. If you like sports, if you like events, high-definition television is really quite spectacular to watch.

Garth AncierThere's a possibility that certain broadcasters will be multiplexing. So they will be taking your favorite shows and running them several different time periods because they' ll have several digital channels on their new stations, and there's also, of course, the possibility that the Internet with the new Internet-2 backbone and with the high-speed access that you get through DSL or cable modems will become a viable delivery vehicle for full-motion video on demand.

TERENCE SMITH: And if that happens, what does that do to broadcast television as we know it?

GARTH ANCIER: If that happens, I think at least in the short term what it does is it allows, I think, mostly shorter video to be accessible on demand. That means shorter shows. It's a little difficult for me to imagine someone downloading a half-hour television show off of ISDN -- well, actually ISDN won't be here, but DSL or cable modem, because it's still going to be a fairly slow -- that's a lot of data. A half-hour show is a lot of data to send down over a DSL or over any high-speed net at this point, let alone the issues that there are with the Internet backbone to support that, but there's no question that within the next two or three years, probably accelerated by the Time Warner-AOL merger, you'll be seeing broadband access for entertainment content. It will just be a question of how that shakes itself out, and that will have an impact on broadcast television. There will be yet another competitor to the product.

TERENCE SMITH: And the famous buzzword "convergence?" In other words, the convergence of computers and the television set, futurists will tell you that you'll have a wall in your house that is both controlled by either a keyboard or a remote. Is that a realistic picture?

GARTH ANCIER: Well, I think that is realistic. I mean, I would personally, I would love to have a wall on my house right now that is both my computer screen and my television set with -- and where the Internet was more of a media-rich experience, meaning more video; more sound.

I mean, when I work on the Internet right now as a human being, I find myself watching television at the same time because right now the Internet is a bit of a media-poor experience.

TERENCE SMITH: Yes.

GARTH ANCIER: It's mostly without sound or the sound is a little slow in coming. It's a little slow on the graphics. So, going from what it is right now to full-motion video, great sound, great picture, great color; it's quite a leap. It will get there, but it's quite a leap.

There's no question, though, that with high-quality LCV displays that I've seen in last few years at the consumer electronic show, you're going to have a flat-panel TV. It's going to be wide screen probably in aspect ratio, and that will be for either broadcasting and high-definition or regular definition -- or now they're calling it "standard definition" -- or for using your computer.

TERENCE SMITH: So it will be a different world.

Garth AncierGARTH ANCIER: I think it will be a different world. That doesn't actually scare me that much. I still think story-driven programming that is of quality and that's smart and appeals to people and has terrific acting still drives that entertainment side of the media.

You may access news a little differently. You may shop differently. Certainly, I know already I shop differently using the Internet, but I'd love to shop using a much bigger screen on my wall than on my computer laptop, which is how I interface with the Internet right now.
Embracing interactivity

TERENCE SMITH: "Interactive" is the other big buzzword, right, that you're going --

GARTH ANCIER: Mmm-hmm.

TERENCE SMITH: And there is a commercial application there that people can buy things they see on television. Is that in the future?

GARTH ANCIER: That's certainly in the future. There are a number of ventures starting up. I know Aaron Spelling is involved in one of them where you can buy things you see on television during the show, and --

TERENCE SMITH: If I like your tie, I can order your tie?

Garth AncierGARTH ANCIER: If you like my tie, you can buy it from me first, but, secondly, you could order it online or order it off -- click it, click on it, and you can do that on the Internet now, click on the product and buy it. I find myself buying a lot more clothes on the Internet, anyway, but sure, why not?

TERENCE SMITH: Well, just behind you there is a T-shirt for Saturday Night Live.

GARTH ANCIER: We'll sell that to you as well. You can actually get that now on the NBC store site.

TERENCE SMITH: And you're doing that over the Internet?

GARTH ANCIER: We do that over the Internet. I mean, NBC has been fairly active and aggressive on the Internet. We have NBC-I. We have CNBC.com, MSNBC.com.

Frankly, even as we've revived "21" or the game show we're doing now, we've done a simultaneous Internet game where you can win money at home, and .the sheer volume of people who have signed onto that site as the show is on the air is staggering. It was 100,000 -- actually, it was in excess of 100,000 users per minute while the show was on the air.

So you can have broad-based television interacting with the Internet and driving audiences back and forth. You just have to be clever about how you do it.

TERENCE SMITH: Mmm-hmm. That's interesting, isn't it? What does that tell you? Does that tell you, for example, that there's a bigger audience for interactive television than perhaps you might have thought before?

Garth AncierGARTH ANCIER: Well, it depends on the kind of show. I mean, a game show obviously can be more interactive than a mystery. I mean, it's hard to do -- to shoot an episode of "Law and Order" and let the audience pick the ending because it takes eight or nine days to shoot a "Law and Order" and there are scripts and actors and you'd have to shoot multiple endings. It's hard to exactly make a dramatic or a comedy show interactive with the audience, but a game show or a news program, those can be highly interactive because they're done live and they -- the audience can fully participate with them.

TERENCE SMITH: The critic, Gary Allen, has said it's a question of whether we will be a nation of couch potatoes or mouse potatoes. Where's your money?

GARTH ANCIER: You know, I think it will depend. You know, one of the things that has not really been resolved yet -- and I think it's an interesting question I always ask myself as a viewer is, you know, there are certain times of day when I want to do what everyone is calling far-away viewing, where I sit back on the couch with a drink in my hand and watch television and I am a couch potato and other times of the day when I want to do close-up viewing which is close to the computer screen, watching something, interacting with it.

Garth AncierRight now, because it's a media-poor environment on the Internet, I find myself watching television while I'm on the Internet, and actually that's a fairly common occurrence. When you take polls of people, you find that quite a number of people watch television and use the Internet simultaneously, because we've become a little bit better at multi-tasking as all of these new technologies have come upon us.

TERENCE SMITH: So that really does suggest that there is a market for convergence, when it comes.

GARTH ANCIER: Oh, absolutely, yes.



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