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TERENCE
SMITH: For more scrutiny of these Republican ads we turn to John Carroll,
a long-time media and advertising critic who is now managing editor
at WGBH-TV's "Greater Boston," a news and public affairs program;
to Kathleen Hall Jamieson, dean of the Annenberg School for Communication
at the University of Pennsylvania; and to NewsHour regular David Gergen,
editor-at-large at "U.S. News & World Report," and a former
adviser to both Republican and Democratic presidents. Welcome to you
all.
John Carroll, I'm sure you're getting a full share of these ads up
in the Boston area. What are your first impressions of them?
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JOHN
CARROLL: Well, my first impression is a much more energetic ad campaign
than on the Democratic side, and the interesting thing is, is the three
different paths that the candidates have chosen. George Bush is very
much character- and personality-driven. John McCain is really driven
by his personal narrative and the history that he has. And Steve Forbes
-- swinging against the tide once again -- is running an issues campaign
in what's essentially an era of personality, and so I think he's got
the hardest task, because he's got two things to do: One, convince people
that he's a credible candidate for president, and two, convince people
that the issues count more than charisma and personality. And I think
that's a hard sell right now.
TERENCE SMITH: Kathleen Hall Jamieson, I know you've been watching
these before you headed off to Hawaii. What do you think of them?
KATHLEEN
HALL JAMIESON: I think it's important to note that George W. Bush is
running on confidence as a primary theme. He's talking very specifically
about his record and arguing from some very basic issue positions --
cut taxes, cut spending, return local control to schools, cut juvenile
crime. That's a very appealing and very Republican message. By contrast,
McCain is arguing character and courage. There is a deeper rooting in
a specific biography from McCain in a specific record in a state for
George W. Bush.
TERENCE SMITH: David Gergen, you've watched a lot of these ads over
the years. How do these strike you?
DAVID
GERGEN: Well, John Carroll noted that these ads were more energetic
than on the Democratic side, but there are two parallels, I think, to
the Democratic ads we saw last week. One is that once again these ads
are very warm; they're very fuzzy; they're very positive -- quite a
contrast say with the Steve Forbes campaign against Bob Dole back in
New Hampshire, as you noted earlier, four years ago. The other parallel
is how much they are separating themselves out from current Washington.
You know, the Democrats don't talk about their connection with Bill
Clinton. The Republicans are not talking about their connection to the
Republican Congress. I found it quite interesting -- when George Bush's
ad ends with a fresh start for America, the clear implication is there
will be a fresh start in the Oval Office, but there is also I think
an underlying message of a fresh start to Washington, including the
relationship to Congress and mood in Washington.
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TERENCE SMITH: That theme does run through them. John Carroll, I wonder,
as you looked at the Bush ads and as we note that he's not going the
standard route of introducing himself with a biographical ad, what do
you think of that strategy and what does it say to you?
JOHN
CARROLL: Well, I think it's a good stretch -- there's a certain amount
of confidence on Bush's part that he is known by the family he keeps,
for one thing. The ad people talk about the Bush brand in that world
-- the marketing world -- George W. Bush would be a brand extension
sort of like Tylenol PM, and he's relying on that, I think, to overcome
what's really a pretty short political career. He hasn't been around
that long as a politician.
He doesn't seem to want to emphasize his business experience at all,
which was all the rage in the early '90s when people said "I'm
a businessman, I have no political qualifications - that makes me eminently
qualified to run the country." He doesn't seem to want to go that
route, and I think there were reasons for that in his business history,
but he does want to emphasize the sort of line of succession, and in
his ads you can hear -- a couple of ads you can hear -- echoes of what
his father did as president, and I think that he's relying on that,
rather than the standard bio.
TERENCE SMITH: Kathleen Hall Jamieson, does that make sense to you
as a strategy for Bush? Is it enough? Is he that well known? Is the
name good enough?
KATHLEEN
HALL JAMIESON: The name -- and this instantly telegraphs his father,
which to those who are likely to vote in primaries is a very important
piece of telegraphy -- but more importantly than that, the claims that
are in that ad about his record are suggesting that in the short period
of time that he's been governor he's accomplished a great deal, and
what he tells you regularly on the stump and in the debates is Texas
is a very large state; indeed, it would be the size of most of the nations
-- bigger than most of the nations of the world, if it were compared
to them.
And so what Bush is attempting to do in that set of very extensive record
claims is to suggest that his record may not be a record that was developed
over a very long period of time, but it's a very dense record of accomplishment.
That's in fact, what one needs to argue if one has the credentialing
of being basically a one-term governor. And as a result, I think not
only is it strategically valuable, but it's giving us information that
tells us what he's likely to do as president -- that is, be a standard,
moderate Republican.
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TERENCE SMITH: David Gergen, in the Forbes ads we see a presidential
image being projected; we see Forbes with Margaret Thatcher, with Gorbachev,
and, of course, with Ronald Reagan. Is that something he has to accomplish
to make himself look presidential?
DAVID
GERGEN: I think those shots actually helped him a great deal. I was
most struck by those elements of his ads, and I think they do give him
more stature, and they put him up on a level -- people like to think
that the person they're going to select is within a circle of acceptable
candidates, someone who is "of presidential timber," and I
think that ad helps Steve Forbes with that a great deal.
If I may come back to the brand name point, I do think that George W.
Bush is smart not to show pictures with his dad or with Reagan or anything
else, but the name -- Republicans like brand names, much more so than
Democrats. If you go back, as you well know, in every election since
1976, there has been either a Dole or a Bush on the Republican national
ticket, and one of the reasons that so many Republicans gathered around
this young governor very early in this process was because of his name,
because of the continuing nostalgia for his parents. He seemed such
an ideal candidate to run with, and that gave him that initial strength,
all that money, and allowed him to buy the -- you know -- he's outspending
the others in his ad buys in the Boston area by some four to one.
TERENCE SMITH: John Carroll, when you look at the Forbes strategy,
what strikes you about it?
JOHN
CARROLL: Well, I think Forbes is in a difficult position. He comes into
this election, I think, carrying more baggage than a sky cap because
of his performance in '96, and also I think he needs to prove that he's
not a one-trip pony with the flat tax, and so what he's doing -- and,
by the way, referring back to his bio ad, Margaret Thatcher, apparently,
isn't all that happy that she turned up in there, and she's not pleased
about the implied endorsement there, although he never says that it's
a specific endorsement.
But I think that's right, what David said, that he's got to show that
he's up to the level of the office. And he uses some interesting techniques,
the black and white, which gives him a little more authority, and the
sort of cinema verite technique that he uses takes him out of what people
thought he was for a long time, which was a very programmed, one-note
candidate, and tries to broaden that out for him and help people perceive
him as a potential president, and I think that that's an uphill battle
for him.
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TERENCE SMITH: OK. Kathleen Hall Jamieson, when you turn to John McCain
and his ads and his strategy, this notion of almost an anti-politician,
certainly an anti-Washington politician, does that strike you as sensible
use of these adds?
KATHLEEN
HALL JAMIESON: The claim in the John McCain biography ad is interesting
because it does something that voters ordinarily have to do for themselves;
it ties a piece of biography into a legislative recommendation. It suggests
that the kind of courage he exhibited while a prisoner of war. And notice
that that ad talks about the others there being a hero, not McCain;
you draw that inference. That adds to the power of the message.
But the courage that he exhibited there is also the kind of courage
he exhibits on the issue of campaign finance reform, and those who've
paid a lot of attention to news would also add in putting forward the
McCain bill, which would have put substantial constraints on the tobacco
industry, and so by tying a very powerful piece of biography to those
legislative proposals, those legislative proposals validate the fact
that the biography carries a different kind of leader into the office,
and, hence, the anti-Washington claim becomes credible.
There's
one other thing that's very important in looking at that advertising.
The public taken as a whole is not yet familiar with the McCain story.
The poll that was just brought out of the field over the past month
shows that over half of the electorate as a whole doesn't yet know the
McCain story as prisoner of war, so putting that in place becomes very
important and then letting people fill out that narrative provides a
way for understanding John McCain, that one doesn't really have about
the other candidates.
TERENCE SMITH: David Gergen, there are less than six weeks now to go
to the Iowa caucuses. What would you advise candidates to do with the
ads in this remaining time?
DAVID
GERGEN: If I were John McCain, I'd try to put that ad everywhere I could.
I think it's the most compelling ad of all the ones we have seen, in
part, because the personal story is compelling. You know, Joseph Campbell
some years ago taught us about the hero's journey. In every culture
we think of someone going out into the wilderness, slaying the dragon,
and coming back the hero. That fits the McCain story very well. I think
Kathleen is absolutely dead on about using the personal story to then
reinforce his professional reputation and what he represents.
In Governor Bush's case I would think that he might want to build a
new biographical story which also helps us understand how his judgment
and his common sense -- because he's been hit so often on this question
recently about -- you know, does he have the depth and the weight --
I think he'll redress that very indirectly in some of his advertising
in the future.
TERENCE SMITH: All right. Thank you all three very much. We've taken
an initial look at the Democrats, now the Republicans. We'll keep it
up as the campaign goes on.
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