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| Originally Aired: September 4, 2006 |
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NewsHour Correspondent Ordered to Leave Iran |
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| Senior correspondent Margaret Warner, who has been ordered to leave Iran where she was reporting for the NewsHour, talks about the mood now that President Ahmadinejad has rejected U.N. demands to stop processing uranium. |
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Margaret, welcome. I know you were supposed to be reporting
from Iran
until the end of the week, but you are headed home now.
What happened?
MARGARET WARNER: Well, Ray, yesterday, late afternoon, I got
a call from the -- it's called the Ministry of Islamic Guidance, which sort of
oversees all the foreign press in -- whoever is coming into Iran.
And a very nice woman said she'd had a call from the police,
saying that I and my crew had to leave by Tuesday at midnight. I asked why. And
she said she didn't know, and that she would check with other people, but it
seemed to be pretty firm.
My surmise is that it was connected to a possible interview
that I was thinking of doing with the parents of a young man who died in prison
here in Tehran,
Evin prison, on July 30. And he had been in prison since the 1999 student
demonstrations, off and on. And the condition of the body, according to letters
that his father had written his father and mother to the U.N. and so on, was
pretty -- suggested that he had certainly been tortured and abused. |
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Efforts to derail reporting?
RAY SUAREZ: Well, until this communication asking you to
leave the country, had there been any attempts to interfere or influence who
you were talking to and what you were talking to them about in Iran?
MARGARET WARNER: Not on the topic, but definitely on who.
The way it works here is, you have to register with an
agency that is in turn licensed by this Ministry of Islamic Guidance. And you
are assigned a translator. And, basically, most reporters here think they're,
you know, they're tracked pretty closely. And the translator, whenever you talk
to somebody in Farsi, is obviously there.
So, and then, you have to make your requests through them
for anyone who is official. So, for instance, I'm here doing a nuclear story,
but we couldn't possibly get to any nuclear installation, any kind of even
nuclear research lab, or talk to any nuclear scientists.
And you can't really go around them. Now, you certainly can
make private appointments with people who aren't in government. And all of us
do that. But it's pretty tightly, at least, monitored. Veteran reporters who
have been here several times say the atmosphere is definitely more restrictive
and more tense than it has been, say, in years past.
RAY SUAREZ: Do you think you were followed during last week,
when you were out and about and doing your work?
MARGARET WARNER: Well, the joke is, they don't need to
follow you, because you always have these cars or cabs. And, you know, they
know exactly where you are.
So, no, I never thought I saw someone tailing me, though
there was an experience. Actually, we were at a cemetery, and I was
interviewing people there. The next day, in a completely different location,
the same plainclothes guy was hanging around. So, you know, you can draw your
own conclusions. |
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Heightened tensions in Iran
RAY SUAREZ: You mentioned that people find things tighter,
the controls more strict, than they had been before. What do Iranians say about
that?
MARGARET WARNER: Well, they say it's true, also, for
Iranians.
And the paradox is that the conservatives actually now have
a complete grip on the government, the presidency and the parliament in the
hands of hard-liners. People here in Tehran,
at least, that we have spoken with, say there is definitely a difference. It is
definitely more restrictive. They definitely feel they have to be more cautious
in what they say.
I mean, there is still healthy debate here. And there are
opposition papers. But they think it is related, perhaps, to the tension over
the nuclear controversy. You know, and others think it's related to the
regime's desire to be sure it remains in control. Why that's worse now is
unclear.
RAY SUAREZ: The nuclear controversy is certainly one of the
issues that brought you to Iran
in the first place. Could it be that any foreign reporter in the country is now
simply a headache to the regime, now that the deadline is passed, now that
President Ahmadinejad has held his news conference, and expressed Iran's
intention to continue enriching uranium?
MARGARET WARNER: I'm the only journalist, I and my crew,
that I know has been expelled.
But other journalists here have had difficulty, for instance,
getting their visas extended, which they had thought they would be able to. So,
little by little, the numbers are dwindling. And, you know, again, you are kind
of left wondering, because, when you ask officialdom, they kind of shrug or
say, oh, there is no problem.
So, you don't really know why. But there are too many
similar situations, at least with the visas, to be a complete coincidence. |
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Iran's firm resolve
RAY SUAREZ: Was much accomplished during Kofi Annan's trip
to Iran?
MARGARET WARNER: Not apparently. What we are told is that
President Ahmadinejad just gave no quarter, just basically repeated the
position of the Iranian regime, which is, they do want to talk about the
nuclear program, but they are not going to agree to any preconditions that the United States and Europe
have asked them to do about freezing enrichment.
What was apparently striking to Annan was Ahmadinejad's
almost in-your-face attitude. He was not at all diplomatic. And he was sort of
brash, a little bit cocky. He likes to joust with people. And he's very
assertive and aggressive. But it was not a diplomatic conversation, from what I
understand.
And, certainly, there seemed to be no apparent movement. There
is a meeting in Europe tomorrow between Larijani, the chief nuclear negotiator
for Iran, and Javier Solana,
the foreign minister of the E.U. in Europe.
And it's anyone's guess what is going to happen there. But
the betting among people in the know here is, if Iran is going to indicate any
flexibility and any desire to search for a workable compromise, that it should
come in that meeting.
RAY SUAREZ: Margaret Warner, joining us from Tehran shortly before her
expulsion by the authorities there -- Margaret, thanks a lot.
MARGARET WARNER: Thanks, Ray. |
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NewsHour Correspondent Ordered to Leave Iran |
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