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November 20, 1997 |
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Despite the fact that the United Nations' weapons inspectors team may resume its duties in Iraq, the United States still sent six B-52 bombers to an island base in the Indian Ocean. Following a background report by Kwame Holman, Jim Lehrer speaks with U.N. Ambassador Bill Richardson about the possible resolution of the Iraq crisis. |
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JIM LEHRER: Now to the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Bill Richardson. Mr. Ambassador, welcome. BILL RICHARDSON, U.N. Ambassador: Thank you, Jim. JIM LEHRER: So Saddam Hussein folded, is that what this is about? |
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BILL RICHARDSON:
I believe that Saddam Hussein blinked. What won out was the President's JIM LEHRER: Nothing has been promised to Iraq in exchange for this? BILL
RICHARDSON: I can assure you that there have been no quid pro quos, no carrots,
no concessions from either the United States or the United Nations. This is an
agreement that Russia has made with Iraq. Nobody else is bound by it. The Security
Council has spoken very consistently, and in a united fashion, that what we want
to see is the full, unconditional return of UNSCOM, the U-2's JIM LEHRER: So if Iraq did use this past three weeks to do things like you just said, can these inspectors find out that very quickly, once they get back on the ground tomorrow? |
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BILL RICHARDSON: I believe they can.
They're technical; they're competent; they're scientists; they have some work
to do to regroup obviously, but the more important that new base lines be JIM LEHRER: All right. Let's say the inspectors go back in, and let's say they're still cheating. These last three weeks they did this; they did this; they do that. Do they have the power to destroy what they've done? BILL RICHARDSON: Yes,
they do. And UNSCOM has a very strong record to destroying many, many weapons
of mass destruction. They have done this. That's why they think it's so important.
JIM LEHRER: They can just go in there and do it. They don't have to have any UN--further UN-- BILL RICHARDSON: No. They have that authority to destroy many of these weapons. They have to identify them and find access to them. What the Iraqis have been doing is hiding many of these weapons and denying access, and these are some changes that we need to make sure take place, so that UNSCOM, which is a U.N. agency, which is valuable to every American--and I'm getting my pitch in for the Congress to pay our U.N. bills because UNSCOM protects not just Americans but a whole region from weapons of mass destruction; that UNSCOM have the ability to do its job. JIM LEHRER: And you have full confidence they can do it if everything is--if they're put back in there and allowed to do it tomorrow, is that right? BILL RICHARDSON: Well, we want to see full compliance by Iraq. That remains
to be seen. They've made the commitment to let the inspectors back in with the
Americans. We think that's JIM LEHRER: What do you make of Tariq Aziz's point that we just ran in the film that the Russians agreed that the team, the inspection team, was out of balance, meaning there were too many Americans on it, is that what that's all about? |
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BILL RICHARDSON: Well, the Russians have their
agenda. We respect it. We don't agree with it, about the makeup of UNSCOM. It
could be that the Russians will make a proposal to change the JIM LEHRER: What did Primakov, the Russian foreign minister, say to Saddam Hussein to make this deal work? BILL
RICHARDSON: Well, I believe that Primakov had the backing of the United Nations
Security Council. President Clinton had called President Yeltsin and was urging
any country like Russia, like France, Arab countries that have leverage with Saddam
Hussein to tell him, look, you have to back off or else, and I think that was
JIM LEHRER: Another thing that Iraq is very much interested in, and the Russians have said they will try to help them in accomplishing this, is to lessen the economic embargo, the oil embargo and the economic embargo on Iraq. Give us a feel for where that stands right now from the U.S. point of view. |
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BILL RICHARDSON: Well, Jim, the United States is the author of what is called
986, an oil for food resolution that allows Iraq to get food and medicine in exchange
JIM LEHRER: Can you give us any feel for a time frame here about how long it might be before these inspectors can report back and say, hey, this is what they've been doing, this is what we found, this is what they're not doing, whatever? BILL RICHARDSON:
Well, I think it's going to take some continuous monitoring of this issue. This
is why you can't say the crisis is over, the issue is over. We're going to be
concerned that Iraq come clean with full data regarding their nuclear, their missile
files, their chemical, biological files, anthrax, poison gas, VX, a lot of that
is happening. This is a scientific decision, Jim. They're going to have to regroup.
There's been-- JIM LEHRER: A matter of weeks, though, right, a matter of months maybe? BILL RICHARDSON: It's going to require continued oversight. This is why you can't say the crisis, the problem is over. Saddam Hussein and Iraq require constant overnight by the international community. This is why we shouldn't try to prejudice the scientific and technical expertise and proud and good record of UNSCOM, the U.N. inspection team. JIM LEHRER: You've been dealing with this thing day and night here for three weeks. You say the crisis isn't over, but the immediate crisis is over, is it not? BILL RICHARDSON: Well, Jim, again, Iraq has made a lot
of promises. They've said a lot of things. Until the inspectors fly into Iraq,
do their job, they're not harassed JIM LEHRER: Okay. Mr. Ambassador, thank you very much. BILL RICHARDSON: Thank you, Jim. |
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