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July 31, 1998 |
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Many praise the U.S. military for its success in handling race relations within its ranks. This month commemorates the event that helped pave the way: President Truman's executive order that formally integrated the armed forces in 1948. After a background report, the NewsHour historians and a military official discuss the anniversary. |
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KWAME HOLMAN: Truman's order set the stage for integration in the armed forces. But it was the need for soldiers to fight the Korean War five years later that hastened integration into a reality. By the end of the war in 1953, 90-percent of military units were integrated. By the Vietnam War, the army was 10.5 percent black and blacks were 13 percent of those killed and wounded. In the early 1990's, more than a quarter of the troops serving in the Gulf War were black. But despite the progress, the military still is making up for past mistakes. Last year, President Clinton drew attention to the role of black servicemen. He presented the military's
PRESIDENT CLINTON: (January 13, 1997) The men we honor here today, helped to make their historic progress possible. They were denied their nation's highest honor, but their deeds could not be denied, and they cleared the way to a better world. PHIL PONCE: More now from NewsHour regulars Presidential Historians Doris Kearns Goodwin and Michael Beschloss, and Journalist and Author Haynes Johnson. Joining them is Retired Lt. General Julius Becton. He served in the Army for more than 40 years before retiring in 1983. He's held several posts since then, most recently as the chief executive officer of the District of Columbia Public Schools. Welcome everybody. General Becton, tell us what life was like for the-day-to-day life was like for the black serviceman or woman before this order was issued.
PHIL PONCE: What did that mean to be in a segregated status like that, I mean, as far as accommodations, as far as equipment? LT. GEN. JULIUS BECTON: You were given the responsibility to do what was expected of all soldiers. But, at the same time, you realized that you could not do what all the soldiers could do. You couldn't go into town with them, as an example. When we left the post at Fort Benning, Georgia, we got on separate buses. When we went downtown, we were treated a certain way by the local police, by the military police. Back in training-
LT. GEN. JULIUS BECTON: We were hustled around. We were asked for identification. You always had to wear a uniform in those days. We're talking about in World War II. You were-- interesting story. When I was at McDill Field, we had an all-black unit, and the shoe repair, the service areas, and the PX were run by Italian prisoners of war. We were given second class treatment to them. I could walk into a shoe repair place and I'd be the last person served, even though I may have been there first, because the fellow behind the counter, although he was a POW, he was white. PHIL PONCE: And General Becton, the day the order was issued, tell us about it. I understand-you remember that day. LT. GEN. JULIUS BECTON (Ret.): I certainly do. I was on reserve duty from college at Aberdeen Proving Ground. The commander had assembled all of the officers. He read the order, as directed, I presume, by Washington, and then he said something which I'll never forget-"As long I'm here, there'll be no change." Clearly, he meant that the officer club would be number one, number two; swimming pool: number one, number two; NCO club: number one, number two. Number two being black. |
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| Why did it take so long to implement the order to integrate? | ||||||||||||||||||||
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PHIL PONCE: Doris, we heard in Kwame's report that the order was issued in 1948, and, yet it wasn't completely implemented until five or six years later. Why the delay? If a President issues an executive order, why isn't it implemented?
PHIL PONCE: Haynes, how about that, do the fears that Doris is talking about and the pressure, is that what is-is that what prompted Truman? What motivated him to?
PHIL PONCE: Michael, a lack of courage on the part of the president? |
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DORIS KEARNS GOODWIN: Well, that's why-- PHIL PONCE: General Becton, you talked to-excuse me, Doris, I'll get right back to you. DORIS KEARNS GOODWIN: Sure. PHIL PONCE: Gen. Becton, you talked to President Truman about this. What did you ask him and what did he say? LT. GEN. JULIUS BECTON (Ret.): I was in a group of students at the commanding general staff college at Ft. Leavenworth in 1960/61. He spoke to the students. And then a few of us had a chance to talk with him afterwards. And we asked him to talk a little bit more about what went through his mind, why did he do it, and he frankly said it was the right thing to do. Now, this is what? Twelve years after he did it, but the right thing to do, and when you think about that, the Army, as an example, published a publication-"Leadership and the Negro Soldier"-1944-a whole pamphlet on what it would take to lead Negro soldiers. PHIL PONCE: You mean different standards for leading black soldiers, as opposed to white soldiers?
PHIL PONCE: Give us an example of what the manual says. LT. GEN. JULIUS BECTON (Ret.): It talks about tips on rumors, fact-it talks about health in the Negro soldier-vocational experience in a Negro soldier-educational background of the Negro soldier-community-life of the Negro soldier-and talks about the history of the Negro soldier. I'm reading what it says here. In 1944-that's-when you think about that and then what Truman did four years later and then where we are today, you're almost talking about day and night. PHIL PONCE: Doris I wanted to get back to you.
PHIL PONCE: Haynes, how do you assess what this led to? HAYNES JOHNSON: Well, it's changed our country. I mean, the military took the lead in integration. Don't forget, this was before schools' desegregations, the situation in the 1950's, before public accommodations, before the right to vote-I mean, we had-as I say again-a totally segregated society. I want to say something about Michael's point. He's absolutely correct about all the things that you said. My point is that politics is often so timid and leadership, and that was what I was trying to say about Harry Truman. You remember when Jack Kennedy came in and he wouldn't sign an executive order on-
HAYNES JOHNSON: Two and a half years. That was 1960,61,62. So I think that the politics and the act of presidential leadership, that's why I credit Mr. Truman, because it did change the country, and he did the right thing. PHIL PONCE: Michael, how would you assess how it changed the country? MICHAEL BESCHLOSS: Well, it changed the country, but, as Haynes was saying, the armed forces were the forcing house of change. And there's a difference of opinion about that even nowadays. There are many people who feel that the armed forces should mirror social changes within the society, others who feel that it should be the leading edge. After Truman put out this executive order in 1948, one of the amazing things to me is that his own Army chief of staff-the World War II hero-Omar Bradley-and his Army Secretary Kenneth Royal, rather loudly opposed the order and said, you know, the President has put this out, but we don't agree with it, and they were essentially suggesting that people should drag their heels, and that makes it all the more miraculous that within about four years the job was done. PHIL PONCE: Gen. Becton, how would you assess where the military is now? LT. GEN. JULIUS BECTON (Ret.): I think that we're leaders in many areas, but certainly we're leaders in the equal opportunity, we're leaders in giving all minorities an opportunity to demonstrate what they can do. A point that we oftentimes are prone to forget, the order of 9981 did not just help the blacks.
LT. GEN. JULIUS BECTON (Ret.): That order of 9981 helped the entire Army, because it enhanced combat effectiveness. We don't have separate this, separate that, but when you are training together, you're going to be a better Army. We've proven that time and time again. |
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| A decision that is less known than Brown v. Board of Education, but no less important. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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PHIL PONCE: Why is it-and I'll ask any of you-why is it that this is a landmark-landmark event happen-50 years ago-and yet, it doesn't get the same kind of recognition say that Brown V. Board in 1954? Doris, your thoughts. DORIS KEARNS GOODWIN: Well, obviously, I suppose the differences that Brown V. Board affected the school system where so many people in their daily lives were affected by whether or not their children would be integrated in schools, whereas the military still is a relatively small number, compared to the number who are affected by the school desegregation decision. But I think the overall point that it made, which is that when blacks and whites can fight side by side, it can work out more productively, more effectively, more efficiently, is one that should be used for any institution in our society at large. PHIL PONCE: Well, thank you all. That's all the time we have. Thank you for being here. |
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