Visit Your Local PBS Station PBS Home PBS Home Programs A-Z TV Schedules Support PBS Shop PBS Search PBS

   
the Online NewsHour
E-mail This Page Print This Page
the Online NewsHourFUNDED IN PART BYChevronPacific LifeVestasCorporation for Public Broadcasting2
BROWSE BY
REGION
TOPIC
RECENT PROGRAMSLOCAL TV LISTINGSSUBSCRIPTIONSNEWS FOR STUDENTSSEARCH


REGION: North America
TOPIC: Politics
Online NewsHour
TRANSCRIPT
Originally Aired: January 28, 2008
Analysis

Kennedy Endorsement Shakes Democratic Race; GOP Focuses on Florida

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., received the endorsement of Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., on Monday, while GOP candidates campaigned in Florida ahead of Tuesday's primary. Analysts David Brooks and Ruth Marcus offer perspective on the latest events in the 2008 race.
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., at rally
 
audioRealAudioDownload   videoStreaming Video

JIM LEHRER: The 2008 race for president. Gwen Ifill begins with a report on today's developments.

EDWARD KENNEDY: I feel change in the air. What about you?

GWEN IFILL: At American University in Washington, where his brother Jack delivered his famous 1963 strategy for peace speech, Senator Ted Kennedy today offered Barack Obama his full political embrace.

EDWARD KENNEDY: There was another time when another young candidate was running for president and challenging America to cross a new frontier. He faced public criticism from the preceding Democratic president who was widely respected in the party.

Harry Truman said we needed someone with greater experience, and added, "May I urge you to be patient?"

And John Kennedy replied, "The world is changing. The old ways will not do. It's time for a new generation of leadership."

So it is with Barack Obama. He has lit a spark of hope amid the fierce urgency of now.

GWEN IFILL: Three Kennedys joined Obama on the stage today, the Massachusetts senator, Rhode Island Congressman Patrick, and the late president's daughter, Caroline, who used a Sunday New York Times opinion piece to announce her support.

CAROLINE KENNEDY, Daughter of John F. Kennedy: Over the years, I have been deeply moved by the people who've told me that they wish they could feel inspired and hopeful about America the way they did when my father was president. This longing is even more profound today.

Fortunately, there is one candidate who offers that same sense of hope and inspiration...and I am proud to endorse Senator Barack Obama for president of the United States.

Kennedy drops avowed neutrality


GWEN IFILL: Hillary Clinton, Kennedy's Senate friend and colleague, also sought the prized endorsement. But Kennedy was critical of President Clinton's role in the South Carolina campaign and refused pleas to remain neutral.

Today, Obama was happy to accept the comparisons to John F. and Robert Kennedy.

SEN. BARACK OBAMA (D-Ill.), Presidential Candidate: I was too young to remember John Kennedy, and I was just a child when Robert Kennedy ran for president.

But in the stories I heard growing up, I saw how my grandparents and mother spoke about them and about that period of our nation's life as a time of great hope and achievement.

They inspired my family as they inspired families all across the country.

And I think my own sense of what is possible in this country, part of the reason I stand here today, comes in part from what they said America was like in the days of John and Robert Kennedy.

GWEN IFILL: Clinton countered today by calling attention to the endorsements she has received from three children of Robert Kennedy, former Maryland Lieutenant Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, Robert Francis Kennedy Jr., and Mary Kerry Kennedy.

Campaigning in Hartford, Conn., today, Clinton didn't mention her Democratic rival, focusing her fire instead on President Bush, who tonight delivers his final State of the Union address.

SEN. HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON (D-N.Y.), Presidential Candidate: I believe we can do better than what we have seen the last seven years with the cronyism and the corruption and the no-bid contracts and the indifference and the incompetence.

I believe we can actually start appointing qualified people for the positions we asked them to hold in the government again.

I believe we can restore American leadership and moral authority in the world, beginning with ending the war in Iraq and bringing troops home within 60 days of I become president.

Republicans make final Fla. pitches


GWEN IFILL: While Democrats grappled with the emerging split within their own ranks, Republicans entered the final day of campaigning in the dead-heat Florida primary. At an airport rally in Orlando, John McCain stressed his national security credentials.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R-Ariz.), Presidential Candidate: In Iraq, we are succeeding. In Iraq, we are succeeding, despite -- particularly back in 2007, when things were at their worst, there were a few of us, a few of us that stood up and said, the Rumsfeld strategy is failing. It's got to be replaced by the Petraeus strategy. And, my friends, we are succeeding.

But, if you forget everything I say to you today, please remember this: Al-Qaida is on the run. They are not defeated. They are not defeated. And we have got a long way to go. And the only person to set a date for withdrawal from Iraq is one General David Petraeus, one of the great generals and leaders that this nation has ever been blessed with, not by some candidate, not by Senator Clinton and Senator Obama, who want to wave the white flag of surrender, so that then al-Qaida will be able to tell the world that they defeated the United States of America. I will never let that happen.

GWEN IFILL: Meanwhile, Mitt Romney campaigned in Fort Myers, taking McCain to task for his support of a campaign finance overhaul, immigration reform and energy legislation.

MITT ROMNEY (R), Presidential Candidate: He's known for three major pieces of legislation, have his name at the top, one, McCain-Feingold, that attacked the First Amendment. It was supposed to take the influence of money out of politics. It made things worse, not better.

Then there was McCain-Kennedy, which people who have looked at it said, look, that was an amnesty bill. That hasn't worked. Now there is McCain-Lieberman, his third great piece of legislation. That would add about $1,000 per year to your gasoline bill here in Florida.

GWEN IFILL: And Rudy Giuliani, who has staked his campaign on the outcome in Florida, argued for civility.

RUDOLPH GIULIANI (R), Presidential Candidate: I am sick and tired of all this negative campaigning. I am sick and tired of all this name-calling. This is no way to conduct a presidential election. The best way to conduct a presidential election is to appeal to the hopes and the dreams and the aspirations and the philosophies and the thoughts of the American people. That's what we're doing.

I believe the people of Florida are going to look at all that name calling and they're going to say, no, no, no.

GWEN IFILL: With campaign stops scheduled from California to Massachusetts, the Democrats have already moved on to the next stage of the competition: the 22 Super Tuesday primaries next week.

But, within Democratic circles, there was still lingering criticism of Bill Clinton, who over the weekend downplayed Obama's victory by comparing him to the last major black candidate for president.

BILL CLINTON, Former President of the United States: Jesse Jackson won South Carolina twice, in '84 and '88. And he ran a good campaign. And Senator Obama has run a good campaign.

GWEN IFILL: Obama did not respond to Clinton's remarks, but said the election should not be about things that divide the nation.

BARACK OBAMA: So, make no mistake. The choice in this election is not between regions or religions or genders. It is not about rich vs. poor, young vs. old, and it is certainly not about black vs. white.

It is about -- it is about the past vs. the future.

It is about looking backwards or marching forwards. It's about whether we are going to seize this moment to write the next great American story, so some day we can tell our children that this was the time when we healed our nation, this was the time when we repaired our world, and this was the time when we renewed the America -- that this was the time when we renewed the America that has led generations of weary travelers from all over the world to find opportunity and liberty and hope on our doorstep.

GWEN IFILL: And Kennedy pointedly suggested Democrats turn the page.

EDWARD KENNEDY: With Barack Obama, we will close the book on the old politics of race against race, gender against gender, ethnic group against ethnic group, and straight against gay.

EDWARD KENNEDY: I love this country. I believe in the bright light of hope and possibility. I always have, even in the darkest hours.

I know what America can achieve. I have seen it. I have lived it.

And with Barack Obama, we can do it again.

AUDIENCE: Yes, we can! Yes, we can! Yes, we can! Yes, we can! Yes, we can! Yes, we can!

EDWARD KENNEDY: And I know that he's ready to be president on day one.

Clintons suffer massive S.C. defeat


JIM LEHRER: And to the analysis of Brooks and Marcus, New York Times columnist David Brooks and Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus. Mark Shields is away this evening.

David, the Kennedy endorsement, we gave it a lot of time tonight. Every other broadcast has given it a lot of time. The wires have made a major -- see this as a major event. Is it a major event?

DAVID BROOKS: I think so. It's by far the most important endorsement of the year or of the campaign. And it's that for a couple of reasons.

The first is just the last clip we heard from Ted Kennedy. Here's the consummate insider, the legislator, saying Barack Obama is ready on day one. If anybody knows the inside of government, it's Ted Kennedy for Democrats. And so that carries a lot of weight.

And then the second thing is when -- in that room, when Caroline Kennedy walks up, her slenderness sort of evoking her father, and then when Ted Kennedy walks up, evoking his brothers, you see the whole history of the Democratic Party sort of swinging behind Obama. And he can clue in to the '60s, the '60s idealism and tie it to himself. And it just has a -- it had a big emotional wallop there in the room.

JIM LEHRER: You were in the room, right?

DAVID BROOKS: I was there. And you just don't expect to see that. I didn't expect Ted Kennedy to endorse. I didn't know who he was for, but I didn't think he'd endorse. The fact that he swung behind Obama and a lot of top Democrats are now swinging behind him is a sign of something shifting, at least at the elite of the Democratic Party.

JIM LEHRER: Something shifting, Ruth?

RUTH MARCUS: I think something may be shifting.

And just to amplify on what David was saying, I agree that this is a big deal. He is the biggest dog in the Democratic Party who is not already aligned with a certain candidate, but also the timing is magnificent for Barack Obama. We're on the verge of a bunch of important states, 22 important states.

JIM LEHRER: Super Tuesday, Feb. 5. Yes.

RUTH MARCUS: Super Tuesday coming up. A lot of people haven't made up their mind. A lot of people who thought they had made up their mind may be recalculating and rethinking.

And, also, I think that the double Kennedys or however many Kennedys there were really play very well to a particular demographic group that Barack Obama has been weakest with: working-class men, white men, union workers.

And also, for women of a certain age -- and I'm going to put myself in that category -- Caroline Kennedy's endorsement really does mean something. We remember her in the White House. And Hillary Clinton has been particularly strong among older women. And I think that also has a kind of emotional punch.

JIM LEHRER: We've been talking on this program the last couple of weeks about, how important are endorsements? You think this one is different than most endorsements, right?

RUTH MARCUS: I think this one is different than most endorsements with the possible exception -- I've never really been clear on how important it was of Oprah -- but certainly in the endorsement wars, everybody wanted this one.

Every candidate wanted this one. And it is a little bit of a leading indicator, Senator Clinton brought out her dueling Kennedys today. But I have to say -- and no dis on Kathleen Kennedy Townsend or anybody else, but she's no Teddy Kennedy. And his Kennedys outranked her Kennedys.

JIM LEHRER: And of course the big word now, of course, tied into all of this is momentum after South Carolina. How does the South Carolina victory look, what, 48 hours later, David?

DAVID BROOKS: Well, it was a precursor to this, because what had happened -- and this was one big event in the Democratic Party, but there was another big event. And that was across the leadership of the party. And that was a negative event. It was revulsion against the Clintons.

And a lot of people still like the Clintons, will always like the Clintons in the Democratic Party. But there was revulsion against the toxicity of their attack on Barack Obama. And I think the size of the margin in South Carolina was an indicator that a lot of voters in South Carolina just wanted to send a message, this is not acceptable, to go after somebody in the way you're going after Barack Obama.

And that sentiment is shared among the leadership of the political class here. I've been stunned by, on the left and the right, in the media and out of the media, people are really -- something switched in the last couple weeks, attitudes toward Hill and -- Bill and Hillary Clinton.

JIM LEHRER: Yes. Do you agree?

RUTH MARCUS: I do agree.

And I think that Senator Clinton to some extent squandered a bunch of goodwill that she had coming out of New Hampshire, looking human, misting up. And now they -- she not only lost, but she lost ugly. And she lost gracelessly. And she lost in a way that she allowed her husband to really eclipse her in the public consciousness and to remind some people that -- even Democrats who like the Clintons -- that while it was, the '90s were good times for the most part, there was also a downside.

And I think it was a very -- I agree with what David had to say about Democrats. It was a very unfortunate series of events over the weekend.

JIM LEHRER: But is it fair to blame Hillary Clinton for all of this? I mean, how much is it a shared responsibility with her husband? Or is it...

RUTH MARCUS: Well, I think it's a shared responsibility with her husband. And she was on TV yesterday sort of saying, well, spouses say the darnedest things. And we're so -- aren't we all lucky that our spouses are so committed to us?

But, you know, to me, it really felt this weekend like two for the price of two, to some extent. And if she is the candidate, she is responsible for what people in her campaign say, including her husband.

JIM LEHRER: But there's still a long way to go, David. And you've said on this broadcast more than once that it's been a long time since you have been as impressed with a candidate as you have been with Hillary Clinton up to this point, before things started to kind of go a little askew.

DAVID BROOKS: She's run a fine campaign. And looking ahead, she's got a lot of support out there.

You look at the big states, in California, in Michigan, in Illinois, New York, New Jersey, she's got huge leads.

JIM LEHRER: Huge polling leads.

DAVID BROOKS: So, I think there's definitely momentum behind Obama, but a lot of people would have to change their mind or take another look. And this has not been a year where we have seen predictable shifts in momentum. So, who knows what is going to happen? So, she still -- I would say still has the inside track.

McCain, Romney exchange barbs


JIM LEHRER: Let's go to the Republicans then tomorrow night, the Florida primary, Ruth. The polls say neck and neck, we just reported in the news summary, in fact, McCain and Romney. And today they kind of exchanged charges about who was the real liberal in the -- what's that all about?

RUTH MARCUS: Well, it's all about the fact that this time we have a closed primary. And one of the things that's going to be interesting tomorrow, this is the first test of Sen. McCain in a primary where only Republicans can vote.

What I loved about today was the emergence of nice Rudy. Whoever thought he would be the sort of kinder, gentler soul in that primary?

JIM LEHRER: Quit fighting, he said, and stop all that...

RUTH MARCUS: Yes. Yes. I'm the grownup.

JIM LEHRER: Yes. Yes.

Do you think that Huckabee and -- who's the other one?

DAVID BROOKS: There are six or seven of them. Ron Paul, Giuliani.

JIM LEHRER: Giuliani, right.

RUTH MARCUS: Nice Rudy.

JIM LEHRER: I mean, is this -- I mean, is this do-or-die for those two? We'll start there and then we'll get back.

DAVID BROOKS: Yes. Huckabee can linger on, because he does have this core of support. And he won't get the nomination, but he can be a minor -- or a player in a minority of the party that can go on and represent what he represents, in the "Fair Tax".

Giuliani, this is it. He's fading fast. I think, when you see Giuliani the lover come out, that is really the last stop on the Giuliani express. There's nothing else he can do to make us laugh. So, he might as well leave.

And I think he'll withdraw after this. And that will pave the way for McCain to do pretty well probably in New York and New Jersey, some of those other states.

JIM LEHRER: So, what about McCain-Romney in Florida?

DAVID BROOKS: Well, there, McCain, if he wins, he is the clear front-runner, clear front-runner. And you'd expect him to do well where he's ahead in some of those other big states. Romney really needs a win to achieve parity and have a chance to compete in those states.

So, I think Romney has slightly more at stake here. But the wild card here is the hatred. And it came out today. It's come out in the last few days.

JIM LEHRER: You mean between these two guys? Yes.

DAVID BROOKS: Between these two guys.

And neither are particularly good in this mood. And whether it's McCain making really exaggerated charges about Romney supporting a timetable for withdrawal in Iraq, or Romney's attacks and his shifting on McCain, it's just -- it's a wild card for both of them. And I think they both are in danger of just destroying themselves. They should look at what happened on the Democratic side. This is one country.

JIM LEHRER: Do you agree there's a message here that the Republicans need to listen to?

RUTH MARCUS: Well, you know, it's interesting. They seem to take turns having boring debates. One side goes after each other, and the other ones say, oh, no, we're the grownups. And I'm hoping that actually Thursday night, when the Democrats debate, will be interesting.

But I think there is the -- within -- between McCain and Romney hatred, but it will also be a test of the resistance to John McCain of some segments of the Republican Party.

Obviously, Rush Limbaugh has been after him. At the same time, he got some important endorsements, the governor of Florida, Senator Martinez. And it's going to be an interesting test not only of his appeal among Republicans, but also how his message plays at a time when the economy is foremost in a lot of voters' minds. He didn't do well on that in Michigan, but that's a sort of special case. It's Romney's home territory.

We had some tough talk about the auto industry. But he needs -- he wants to talk about the transcendent threat of Islamic terrorism. But he needs to show in Florida that he also can talk economy with people who are very nervous about it.

JIM LEHRER: McCain -- economy is not McCain's strong subject, is it?

DAVID BROOKS: No, he admits that. If you ride along with him, he will -- he will -- he will say that: I know about the economy.

He was chairman of the Commerce Committee. But he will, when you get into the economic weeds of the data and stuff like that, he is just not an expert. And he has primarily been a foreign policy person. When you talk to him, he wants to talk about foreign policy.

I do think that, for even Republicans, the economy is now a more salient issue than foreign policy. And he will have to do something about that as the weeks go on.

JIM LEHRER: And this is State of the Union night. The president, according to all the advance word that all of us have -- and a lot of it has moved already on the wires -- the president is going to spend a lot of time on the economy and the stimulus package.

What are your expectations generally about the president and his State of the Union address?

DAVID BROOKS: There'll be no big new proposals. He knows that it's too late for that. He's not going to promote anything. They were talking about doing a cap-and-trade piece of legislation, which would be air pollution control. But they know it's too late for them to do that.

So, they -- it'll be laying out a philosophy, a philosophy of the foreign philosophy, a philosophy of freedom, and the domestic philosophy, I think, which is going to try to set up the Republican Party for the future of giving the people the tools, so they can compete in a global economy. He will hit the trade issue quite hard, which I think is significant, because that's been contentious within the Republican Party, a lot of people wandering away from free trade agreements. And he wants to hit that hard to sort of lead the party where it should go after he's gone.

JIM LEHRER: The advanced word, too, Ruth, is that he is going to come back strong on the immigration issue, the one that didn't go where it needed to go, from his point of view. And now he's going to come back again at it.

RUTH MARCUS: Well, I think that he's going to come back again at that and about some other very unfinished business, such as entitlement reform, but not so much with the expectation that, despite the fact that they could agree to give away money in an election year, that this president and this Congress, in an election year, are going to be able to come together on immigration reform, but to remind people that, after he's gone, when there's a new president in the White House, that these two in particular are important -- immigration reform and entitlement spending are important tasks that his presidency has left unfinished, I would say not entirely or even maybe largely on immigration reform his fault.

But there's a lot of unfinished business. And he's kind of looking over the horizon.

JIM LEHRER: Yes.

In some of these advanced briefings today at the White House as a lead-in to tonight, the president, I understand, showed a lot of passion on this issue of immigration. He's still very upset about the fact that that reform bill didn't get through.

Anyhow, we'll see what he says.

Thank you both very much.

RUTH MARCUS: Thank you.

LATEST POLITICS HEADLINES
Candidates to Answer to Undecided Voters in Nashville Debate
Anti-Government Protests Rattle Thailand
Ahead of Second Debate, Presidential Candidates Sharpen Attacks
Vote 2008
  Main: Vote 2008
  Main: 2008 Primaries
REPORTS
  Primary Election Map
  Big Picture Cities
  Reporters' Blog
CANDIDATES
  Democrats
  Republicans
RESOURCES
  Election Feeds
    Vote 2008 RSS
    Vote 2008 Podcast
  Lesson Plans
  Archive
Kennedy Endorsement Shakes Democratic Race; GOP Focuses on Florida



CURRENT NEWSHOUR HEADLINES
Fed Takes New Steps to Unfreeze Credit Markets

Ahead of Second Debate, Presidential Candidates Sharpen Attacks

Paul Solman Answers Your Questions on the Financial Meltdown







ABOUT US | FEEDBACK | SUBSCRIPTIONS / FEEDS: 
POD|RSS
Funded, in part, by:ChevronPacific LifeVestasCorporation for Public Broadcasting
            Support the kind of journalism done by the NewsHour...Become a member of your local PBS station.
PBS Online Privacy Policy

Copyright ©1996- MacNeil/Lehrer Productions. All Rights Reserved.