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PHIL PONCE: Welcome, Mr. Potts. First of all, tell us, what exactly did the scientists find? |
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| An early human predecessor. | ||||||||||||||
| RICHARD POTTS, Smithsonian Institution: Well, they found a complete
or nearly complete skeleton of an early form of human predecessor, possibly
a direct ancestor of human beings, dating back to about 3 ½ million years
ago.
PHIL PONCE: And we're looking at a picture here from - that came out in the newspaper today. What is it we're looking at right now?
PHIL PONCE: So what kind of information can you get from a complete skeleton like this that you weren't able to get from the fragments you were talking about? RICHARD POTTS: Well, for the kind of ancestor - potential ancestor we're talking about we usually can measure the size of the brain, the inside of the brain case from some bits and pieces of the fossil skull. We can measure something about the size of the body from an arm bone of one individual and a leg bone of another. Well, what we'll be able to do is to put together a picture of a whole body and its brain size of this creature relative to its body size from one single individual. PHIL PONCE: And, again, earlier scientists have inferred that information from fragments. Now they have the entire skeleton. So this is a pretty big deal? RICHARD POTTS: Yes. Exactly. I mean, if you could imagine taking the arm bone from Kareem Abdul-Jabar and a leg bone of Danny DeVito, you might think that you'd get a fairly distorted picture of what our skeleton looked like. Well, the same is true as you go back into the past. And so to have a complete one individual is very spectacular. PHIL PONCE: You have some models here that further illustrate what it was the scientists found. What do you have? PHIL PONCE: This is very similar to the picture that we just saw. RICHARD POTTS: Exactly. But you can see it has a small brain case. What we have here is a modern human skull for comparison. And you can see that the face was large in this early Australopithecus. The face - our face is quite small, relative to the size of the brain. PHIL PONCE: Describe what the specimen that was found today - what it would - what people think it might have looked like. What are they inferring about its appearance? |
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PHIL PONCE: I'm looking at a picture right now. RICHARD POTTS: Suggesting that it could climb trees. It could not only walk on the ground but also climb trees. Well, again, this inference has been made from bits and pieces of fossil here and there, and so we'll be able to tell more about how this early predecessor of human beings moved around in that way. PHIL PONCE: And why is it so important to know how this predecessor moved around? RICHARD POTTS: Well, the earliest hallmark of our evolutionary history is walking upright on two legs. There's one camp of researchers who claim that these early Australopithecus species moved on two legs just like we did. There's another camp that said, no, their station in life was mainly in the trees. And we've had this very heated debate for about 20 years, and hopefully, with fossils such as this we'll be able to test those ideas a little bit more carefully. And I think that what's going on here is that we have really this amalgam of a very --of an ancestor who's not really like an ape and not really like a human - exactly what you'd expect for this time range in human evolutionary history. PHIL PONCE: So you have this new evidence which will give - which will give more information about bones. How can you tell from bones that something was capable of walking upright?
PHIL PONCE: So the shape of a bone either suggest that a creature walks or that a creature climbs. RICHARD POTTS: Yes. That's - PHIL PONCE: Rely on one's arms. RICHARD POTTS: Exactly. And what we have here is something that's in between. We have hip bones and a pelvis and a foot that looks something like ourselves but arms that were very powerful, capable of climbing trees very easily. |
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PHIL PONCE: Okay. The big question - one of the big questions - is this the "missing link?"
PHIL PONCE: We have a sketch of a family tree that you brought with us. RICHARD POTTS: Right. PHIL PONCE: At the bottom we have that Australopithecus that you were talking about.
PHIL PONCE: Well, Richard Potts, thank you very much. RICHARD POTTS: My pleasure. Thanks. |
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