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Amidst charges of bribery, both the International and U.S. Olympic Committees and the U.S. Department of Justice are investigating Salt Lake City's successful bid for the 2002 Winter Games. Following a background report, Jim Lehrer and guests discuss the allegations and the investigations. |
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JIM LEHRER: Tom Bearden begins our coverage of the Olympics story. TOM BEARDEN: Salt Lake City realized the fruits of years of lobbying in June of 1995, when the International Olympic Committee announced the host city for the 2002 Winter Games. |
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TOM BEARDEN: Salt Lake had been a first ballot winner -- beating out Quebec and cities in Sweden and Switzerland. Jubilant officials and residents celebrated at a huge outdoor rally. But in the last several weeks charges have been leveled that Salt Lake City officials bribed Olympic officials to get the games. Those officials have admitted giving four hundred thousand dollars in college scholarships to 13 beneficiaries, including six relatives of IOC members.
TOM BEARDEN: The various Olympic committees looking into the matter are scheduled to complete their investigations within the next couple of months -- well before the start of the 2002 winter games. |
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JIM LEHRER: Now to two journalists who have been covering the Olympic story: Howard Berkes of National Public Radio, and Christine Brennan, who's also written two books on the Olympics and figure skating. Okay, Christine, first of all, let's try to understand some of the specific charges. College scholarships, these were given to people who were on the International Olympic Committee. Now how many people were on the committee, who actually make these decisions? CHRISTINE BRENNAN, Sports Writer: There are 115 members, and they're from around the world, some of them are kings and queens and princes, literally Princess Anne, Prince Albert of Monaco. There are - I would call it actually the sports world's royal family. This is about as upper crust as it gets. And they make these decisions every few years to award the Olympic games to a city, winter or summer games. And these are the people who make these decisions. JIM LEHRER: And these decisions are made way in advance, are they not?
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JIM LEHRER: Yes. Now, Howard, to you on the specifics here in Salt Lake City, they are accused of - the people in Salt Lake City are accused of, for instance, providing college scholarships to some of these - to relatives of members of the IOC. What's the nature of those scholarships? HOWARD BERKES, National Public Radio: Well, we don't have very many details about that because the Salt Lake Olympic organizing committee still has withheld much of the information about this program, but what we do know is that over a period of seven years Salt Lake Olympic organizers paid out thousands of dollars in college scholarships to six relatives of IOC members; they put them through school -- through American University in the case of the daughter of one IOC member, through several colleges in Utah. The payments also included living expenses and books, and other things that were necessary for them to be in school. JIM LEHRER: Now, there was also a very interesting story about medical expenses that were provided for members of the committee. Tell us that story.
JIM LEHRER: And you're talking about local - you mean in Salt Lake City? HOWARD BERKES: Here in Salt Lake City. JIM LEHRER: And they, in fact, did it? HOWARD BERKES: And they did it. JIM LEHRER: Yes. HOWARD BERKES: And they did it. JIM LEHRER: Now, Christine, you've been covering these Olympic stories for years. Is what Salt Lake City did unique? |
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For example, a man in Manchester who ran the bid for Manchester, England, a bid that did not succeed in the year 2000, told me and told others, he said, he even knew the shoe size of the second daughter of one particular IOC member. What does that mean? That means they were giving out gifts constantly. You had situations where ICO members were able to pilot yachts - 38-foot yachts in Sidney Harbor. Obviously, this was well within the rules, so to speak, of the IOC -- $200 gift limit - but how do you rank price lists in the $200 gift limit area? And I think the reality is that this has been going on for a long time, Jim. I think - I don't think that Salt Lake City - while it is important that we look at Salt Lake City - they're going to say to a lot of people - is hey, we had to do this, and the IOC members who were taking the gifts obviously didn't blow the whistle; they took them.
HOWARD BERKES: Well, actually, people in Salt Lake City don't quite see it that way. Some people, of course, here see that, as Christine described, that Salt Lake Olympic organizers had to do what other bid cities have done to win the games. Others, though, see it as Salt Lake City taking the low road, and violating not only the regulations of the International Olympic Committee that were in effect at the time but possibly the law in order to secure the games. What's important, though, at this moment is that the International Olympic Committee and the U.S. Olympic Committee both have essentially said this is not Salt Lake City's fault; the fault does lie within the members of the International Olympic Committee who took it up on themselves to extract these kinds of gifts, to encourage them over the years, to seek them out. And it's quite clear that the International Olympic Committee and the U.S. Olympic Committee puts the blame there and that the action that they will take will be focused on the members of the International Olympic Committee and establishing rules that will prevent this kind of thing in the future from that standpoint. There doesn't seem to be anyone interested in punishing Salt Lake City. JIM LEHRER: Yes. Christine, it would seem then that it would be very easy to solve this problem if the people who are taking the - whether their bribes or favors - whatever they are - just refuse to take them and discourage them, the thing is over. CHRISTINE BRENNAN: Absolutely. And obviously the IOC has to police itself, or at least that's what you would hope, but they haven't. And, in fact, they've been having their hands out saying give me more, give me more - golf at Augusta National from the Atlanta people - again a legal gift in that sense. I think what's going to have to happen -
CHRISTINE BRENNAN: At Augusta National - five members of the IOC went and played golf at Augusta National, the site of the masters, one of the hallowed grounds of golf, as part of Atlanta's bid at the time Atlanta was hoping that golf would be part of the Olympics, and one of the reasons they allowed this to happen is while they had to see the site, after all, make sure all 18 greens were up to Olympic standards. Of course, golf was not in the Olympics. What kind of perk was that? This again was legal. Atlanta was doing nothing wrong, but I think the point that needs to be made here is that Salt Lake City obviously, if alleged - what is alleged is true - Salt Lake City may have gone farther, but when you look at some of the things the IOC was expecting, was wanting, I would point my finger right at the IOC members, as a journalist looking at this, and ask them the question, why didn't you say, hey, we're getting this, we shouldn't be getting this, and my sense of it is that they cannot police themselves, but what we will see down the road is a commission perhaps ten/fifteen members, international - an international body of people outside of the Olympic world watching this very closely. JIM LEHRER: What have the IOC members said, themselves, about all of this, other than to appoint the Mitchell Commission and other than that - and other things like that - what have they said and done? |
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HOWARD BERKES: Well, the individual members of the IOC, some of whom have been accused, deny the accusations. They're not saying much at all. The International Olympic Committee, the executive board of the International Olympic Committee, particularly Mark Hodler, who's the second most senior member of the IOC, Juan Antonio Samaranch, the president of the IOC, and Dick Pound, a vice president who's considered the heir apparent to Juan Antonio Samaranch, they all have spoken out. They generally have certainly condemned this kind of activity. They have launched their own investigation.
JIM LEHRER: And not considered bribes. HOWARD BERKES: They're not considered bribery. Part of the way that business is done on an international level. I should point out that the Justice Department is investigating. JIM LEHRER: Sure. HOWARD BERKES: And there are federal laws that do forbid this kind of activity; whether this particular activity fits under those laws, that's what the Justice Department is figuring out. But there are federal laws that prohibit this kind of thing. JIM LEHRER: Christine, what about the idea of removing the decision-making on where these games are from that big - the big committee - and that might solve the problem? |
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CHRISTINE BRENNAN: I think that's a great idea, and obviously it would also mean that the incredible dollar amounts - the estimated $30 million by the five or six cities going for the 2000 Olympics.
CHRISTINE BRENNAN: Just to try to win the bid that city, Australia, eventually won -- $30 million - think where that money could go if they weren't busy wining and dining the ICO members and of course also building stadiums and beginning the process, but I think that's a great idea. The fact is that do all of these IOC members all have to go to all these cities and get the expensive hotel suites and go and play golf or do whatever they do, do they all have to do this? It seems again like it was Christmas morning every day of the year for the International Olympic Committee and from the standpoint of this opens the door and has us all look at it a little bit closer, journalists, as well as obviously some of the investigating bodies, that's probably a good thing. JIM LEHRER: And as they say about this time of the year, Christmas may now be over. CHRISTINE BRENNAN: I think it is officially over for the International Olympic Committee. JIM LEHRER: Christine, Howard, thank you both very much. HOWARD BERKES: Thank you, Jim. |
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