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November 5, 2001 |
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Securing the world's largest stockpile of nuclear warheads in the former Soviet Union. |
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ROSE GOTTEMOELLER, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace: We're concerned, for example, that a small nuclear warhead, even smaller than the Hiroshima bomb, could take out lower Manhattan completely, cause much more devastation than the devastation of the Twin Towers. BETTY ANN BOWSER: Rose Gottemoeller was the Clinton administration's top non-proliferation official at the Department of Energy. Now, she's a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment.
BETTY ANN BOWSER: Last year Gottemoeller visited a plutonium reprocessing plant in Russia. ROSE GOTTEMOELLER: They didn't have any bars on its windows, just had a big wooden door with a huge key, like a medieval-size key, that they turned to open the door, and when you walked in there, basically down in the floor there were hundreds of buckets of plutonium. When I went into the facility one day, one of the, one of the technicians pulled one of them out of the floor and handed it to me and said, "feel it-- it feels warm. It's full of plutonium." So it's the kind of situation where, if somebody was an insider, particularly, who needed some extra money, maybe hadn't been paid for a while, we were very concerned and had been very concerned that those buckets of plutonium could go missing. |
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BETTY ANN BOWSER: Is that enough to make a bomb? KENNETH LUONGO: It's enough to do serious damage, just sitting there behind a huge vault door that had a lock that could be opened with a skeleton key.
Examples of what's been done can be seen in these DOE photographs: Removing an old wooden door at one Russian facility and replacing it with a steel secured door; at another, cutting the grass, paving over mud, and installing a heavy steel gate.
LINTON BROOKS, Department of Energy, Nuclear Security Official: Secondly, we work with the Russians to try and consolidate the materials so there are fewer places to take highly enriched uranium which is weapons-usable, and blend it down into a form that's not. Third, in another part of our organization we are working with the Russians to actually eliminate plutonium. |
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SAM NUNN, Nuclear Threat Initiative: There's very little protection for about 60 percent of the weapons material in Russia. That doesn't mean there's no protection; it means there's very poor protection, and not the kind of security standards that we would even think about tolerating here. We have helped them on about 40 percent of those vulnerable materials-- that's the good news; the bad news is that at the rate we're going, if we don't accelerate it, it's going to take us 20, 25 years at the rate we're going now to have the Russian weapons material under the proper kind of safeguard. BETTY ANN BOWSER: Nunn and other non- proliferation advocates are concerned about reports in the past few days from the International Atomic Energy Agency that indicate there have been 175 cases of trafficking in nuclear material in the past few years, and some evidence that suggests bin Laden's al-Qaida network has tried to buy nuclear materials.
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PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: The next President must press for an accurate inventory of all this material. And we must do more. I will ask the Congress to increase substantially our insistence to dismantle as many of Russia's weapons as possible as quickly as possible. BETTY ANN BOWSER: But one of the things the new Bush Administration cut in its budget was the $100 million allocated for the DOE program. Then last week Congress restored $70 million of that.
BETTY ANN BOWSER: Critics still complain that no money from the emergency homeland security appropriation was set aside, and more resources are needed. ROSE GOTTEMOELLER: Well, frankly, I wish that both governments were taking it a little more seriously than they have. I haven't noticed in either Washington or Moscow a particular intensification of efforts since September 11. Clearly everybody's got other fish to fry. There are lots of active military issues to resolve. We're fighting a war. BETTY ANN BOWSER: There is one thing both sides do agree on: They hope the program to secure Russian nuclear material will be on the agenda when Presidents Bush and Putin meet next week. |
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