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April 9, 1996

REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT AT SIGNING OF LINE ITEM VETO BILL





                           THE WHITE HOUSE

                    Office of the Press Secretary
________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release                                April 9, 1996     


	     
                      REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
                  AT SIGNING OF LINE ITEM VETO BILL
	     
	     
                           The Oval Office




11:15 A.M. EDT
	     
	     
	     THE PRESIDENT:  I want to welcome Senator Nickles and 
Congressmen Cardin, Spratt, Goss and Solomon here; Governor Romer; Ed 
Lupberger, the Chairman of the United States Chamber of Commerce; 
Marne Obernauer, the Vice Chairman of the American Business 
Conference; David Keating, the CEO of the National Taxpayer Union; Al 
From from the Democratic Leadership Council; and Fred Greenstein, a 
distinguished presidential historian from Princeton who has also 
supported the bill I am signing today.
	     
	     It gives me great pleasure today to sign into law the 
line item veto.  This is a bipartisan achievement that has been long 
sought by presidents, long supported by members of Congress and by 
governors.  It will help us to cut waste and to balance the budget.
	     
	     For years, presidents of both parties have pounded this 
very desk in frustration at having to sign necessary legislation that 
contained special interest boondoggles, tax loopholes and pure pork.  
The line item veto will give us a chance to change that, to permit 
presidents to better represent the public interest by cutting waste, 
protecting taxpayers and balancing the budget.
	     
	     We all know that this is needed because too often, as 
vital bills move through Congress, they can become clogged with items 
that would never pass on their own.  Presidents often have no choice 
but to sign these bills because of their main purpose.  This new law 
will give the president the power to cancel specific spending items 
and specific tax loopholes that benefit special interests.  These 
proposals can then be debated and subject to an open vote on the 
floor of Congress.  A fresh air of public accountability will blow 
through the federal budget.
	     
	     This law gives the president tools to cut wasteful 
spending, and, even more important, it empowers our citizens, for the 
exercise of this veto or even the possibility of its exercise will 
throw a spotlight of public scrutiny onto the darkest corners of the 
federal budget.  
	     
	     I have advocated the line item veto for a long time.  
When I was governor, I used it, and it helped us to balance 12 
budgets in a row.  Forty-three of our 50 governors have the line item 
veto.  Governor Romer is with us because so many of the nation's  
governors have supported this measure for so long.  The line item 
veto will help us to bring common sense to our Nation's Capital, just 
as it has to state capitals all across America.
	     

	     Let me say, I am particularly pleased that this measure 
received support from both parties, working together for the public 
good.  That's the way we should meet all of our challenges in 
America, and it's the only way we can balance the budget in the right 
way.  

	     
	     I am very proud that we have cut the deficit in half 
since I took office.  The line item veto will help the president cut 
the budget deficit even further.  But we have to pass a seven-year 
balanced budget and to do it in a way that reflects our fundamental 
values.  The Congress and the Executive Branch have now identified 
over $700 billion of savings common to both plans.  That is more than 
enough to balance the budget and have a modest tax cut.
	     
	     So I hope that we can do what we did with the line item 
veto -- work together and pass a good balanced budget plan.  That 
will bring these interest rates down, it will reassure the financial 
markets, and it will keep economic growth going in the United States.
	     
	     Let me say in closing before I sign the bill that it is 
customary for a president to give the pens he uses to sign a bill 
into law to those who did the most for its passage.  So I am honored 
today to send the very first four pens that are used here to the 
former presidents who also made the line item veto their cause 
--President Reagan and President Ford, President Carter, President 
Bush.  I thank them and our country thanks them.  Their successors 
will be able to use this power that they long sought to eliminate 
waste from the federal budget, to advance our values and protect our 
priorities as we move into the 21st century.
	     
	     Thank you.
	     
	     (The bill is signed.)
	     
	     Q	  Doesn't this transcend the Founding Fathers' 
separation of powers and give the president too much power?
	     
	     THE PRESIDENT:  I don't think so.  We've worked hard to 
-- we anticipate that it will be challenged.  We've worked hard to 
provide for a means for it to be resolved quickly.  But this leaves 
ultimate hands in the authority of the Congress.  They can take all 
these separate issues back and vote on them separately.  And I think 
all of us believe that as long as that is done, that we don't violate 
the constitutional separation of powers doctrine.  
	     
	     And the Constitutions of our various states are modeled 
pretty closely on the federal Constitution.  They all have separation 
of powers documents, and the governors have had this authority in 
almost all the states and have used it well and without any upsetting 
of the constitutional framework.
	     
	     As long as the practical impact of this is to force 
these matters to be considered separately I don't think there's any 
question that it's not a violation of the separation of powers.  Now, 
of course, others in authority and the Judicial Branch will have 
their opportunity to say differently, but I believe it will be 
upheld.
	     
	     Q	  Mr. President, what's the latest word you have on 
the situation in Liberia?  And will you be forced to order Americans 
evacuated from Liberia?
	     
	     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, let me say, first of all, since 
the -- for the last several days we've been keeping very close watch 
on it.  We have a number of Americans there in Monrovia, and we have 
put in place the pieces necessary to do everything possible to assure 
their safety.  And we're watching it very closely.  We have not made 
a decision -- I'm not sure we should make a decision from here on 
their evacuation.  We're working with the embassy and we're being 
guided in significant measure by what they know to be the facts on 
the ground there.  But we have tried to put in place backup measures 
which would permit us to protect the Americans as quickly as 
possible, should that become necessary.

	     
	     Q	  Have you received any assurances on their safety?
	     
	     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, we've done the best we could.  You 
know, it's hard for anybody to assure their safety in the sense that 
conflict is going on in the Capitol.  But we believe that we've made 
the right decisions so far with regard to their situation, and we're 
watching it very closely.
	     
	     Q	  Mr. President your critics of the line item veto 
have said that it will allow a president to wheel and deal with a 
senator or a congressman or a group of senators or congressmen, and 
to threaten them with this power.  What could you say -- not to 
question your integrity or whatever -- what would you say to the 
American people that you would not, and your successors would not, 
abuse this power?
	     
	     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, first of all, every power given to 
the Congress or to the President or to the courts is, I suppose, 
susceptible to some abuse, and we have a system of checks and 
balances there.  My argument is, number one, there's obviously some 
negotiations that go on over legislation all the time now -- and 
almost always, by the way, fully reported by you and the press, 
whether we like it or not.  (Laughter.)
	     
	     Number two, keep in mind, the protection the members has 
is that if the President goes overboard and says, if you don't vote 
for me on some other bill, or this bill, I'm not going to allow your 
project in here -- if the President started doing that and it was 
unrelated to the real merits of the underlying spending provision, 
then I believe the Congress would respond by passing these bills 
separately.
	     
	     Keep in mind, the ultimate protection the Congress has 
-- if the President abuses his authority, the ultimate protection the 
Congress has is the clear ability to have these bills voted on 
separately and publicly.  And then the President's veto gets singled 
out.  The President could veto it, that spending bill again, too. 
Then the President would be ultimately held accountable by the 
people, through the reporting of the process in the press.

	     And let me also say that I found -- you know, I was a 
governor for quite a long time before I came here, and what I found 
was -- and I'm sure Governor Romer could corroborate this -- is that 
once this mechanism is in place and people understand that the 
Executive is prepared to use it, it becomes necessary to use it less.  
That it's main benefit after a few years is that it exists in 
reserve, because it changes the whole shape of the budget 
negotiations and makes these bills less subject to this sort of 
catch-all spending.

	     Now, it will take some years, perhaps, for that to 
happen here, but we are doing this for the long run.  None of us who 
have supported this -- and I'm sure the representatives from the 
business groups, the taxpayers unions and others would say the same 
thing -- none of us have ever pretended that this was some sort of 
miraculous cure-all.  But we believe it will put discipline into this 
budget and it will really help over the long run to give the American 
people a kind of budgeting process they need, as well as reducing 
waste and helping to move the budget into balance.

	     Thank you.  

	     Q	  Are you sure you will be using it next year?
	     
	     THE PRESIDENT:  Well, that's up to the bosses out there.  
But I'll tell you this, I was more than happy -- the majority in the 
Congress wanted to wait until January to put it in, for their own 

reasons, and when I was asked about it, without a moment's 
hesitation, I said yes.  That was a reasonable compromise for me. 

	     I think this is so important that we shouldn't -- if 
they want to take it out of the context of this year's election and 
the fall's budget negotiations, I think it is so important to get 
into the law for the long run it was fine with me.  I was very happy 
to do that.  I don't have any problem with it.  We did it.  It's the 
right thing to do, and it's been done, and we did it together, and 
that's the way we ought to do more things.

	     Thank you.  (Applause.)

             END                          11:28 A.M. EDT
	     
	     


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