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Paul Solman: With the world shifting under our feet as I write (2 pm), today's question came from the editor of The Business Desk, who asked for a response to the events of the second: Dow down 500+ (and I haven't looked in the past 45 seconds), bailout busted. For now. As I wrote here two weeks ago (IS it the end of the world as we know it?), the key issue is "credibility." The English economist John Maynard Keynes, writing during the Great Depression, said that all business undertakings stem from "spontaneous optimism" which, if extinguished, can blow out an economy more quickly than it can stoke it. What we're experiencing today might be called spontaneous pessimism. It's a phenomenon that, like its happy-face counterpart, feeds on itself. Unfortunately, it's no more "irrational" than self-propelling exuberance. All you have to believe is that the other guy will be exuberant, and then it makes sense to invest, to buy stock. You'll spur her, she'll spur you: the economy spirals up. But, the same thing happens in reverse. The fear of the moment is, of course, the Keynesian DOWNWARD spiral. And if my writing about it scares you, maybe I'm only making things worse. I remember a live NewsHour discussion segment years ago, when the Dow was at 5500. In the green room before we went on, one of the panelists - a candid economist - suggested that the Dow was cruisin' for a bruisin'. (At 5500!) But when I put the question to him live, he issued no such warning. When I twitted him afterwards, he said smilingly that he just hadn't wanted to contribute in any way to a panic. Many years before that, in the early '80s, I interviewed Paul Volcker, then head of the Fed, about the banking crisis of HIS era, involving insolvent loans to countries like Brazil and Mexico: the so-called Third World Debt Crisis. After our interview, he said something similar. But during the interview, I remember asking him: "What happens if Mexico, say, defaults on its debts?" His on-camera answer, if I remember right: "That question is not posed." There are similarities between that debt crisis, the S&L crisis of the late '80s, the so-called "Asian" crisis of the 1990s and what we're experiencing now. But frankly, the rest seem to pale in comparison just at the moment. (Hold on while I check the Dow - down 528.) What might be so special this time around? It's the size of the problem, the extent to which it has spread worldwide, and the fact that so many of the debts are owed by institutions that actually won't EVER be able to pay. Mexico borrows money and some day, somehow, there's enough of value there - hard-working Mexicans to tax, oil under the ground, whatever - that you can get back something, restore confidence, start the spiral upward once again. S&Ls owned real property that wasn't worth anything like what they'd loaned against it - remember those see-through buildings in Texas, uninhabited once the price of oil plummeted? But the property values came back over time. Some investors actually made a killing, buying cheap from the government's RTC, which had taken over the S&L properties. Yes, today too there are real properties beneath those mountains of iffy mortgages, which serve as collateral for mortgage-backed securities, which in turn serve as collateral for CDOs (collateralized debt obligations), which themselves are collateral for "CDO squareds" - all of which are "insured" by credit default swaps (CDS'). That's one reason to argue that the mortgagees -- the homeowners -- should be bailed out instead of the investors who loaned them money, and borrowed against those loans, ad infinitum. Then the collateral for the Himalayas of debt would be good again. Sure, a lot of undeserving house-flipping investors might get bailed out in the process, though maybe there's a way to restrict a bail-out to owner-occupied dwellings. But I guess the main reason Congress hasn't gone this route is that it would take too long, and the crisis is NOW. (Dow down 574 and falling; panic comes easy.) So Congress proposes a bailout of the borrowers because they - the banks, investment banks, money market funds, insurance companies, et al. - are the institutions through which the world's capital runs. If they go dark, the capital goes dry. And then, the fear is, not only won't the local McDonald's get its loan to buy the new coffee maker, but your credit card might not be honored when you try to buy a cup of the old Joe. Congress will go back to the drawing board. Will the Democrats demand a truly populist bill that promises to bail out homeowners and slash the pay of executives, propose a "transactions" tax on all securities trades that would provide money for current and future bailouts while discouraging speculation? Will the Republicans press their own initiatives, or simply see if the markets fail? I don't know any economists who were happy with the bailout that failed today. The bad news is that I haven't heard of any plausible alternatives that are a good bet to pass. The worst news is that this all corroborates a motto I first adopted when I became a journalist in 1970: There is no big time. That is, even the experts don't know what to do. In the meantime, it is up to us mere mortals to muddle through the current crisis as best we can. (Dow down 748 at 4:11pm) -- Posted September 29, 2008 | Comments (7) | Permalink
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Dear Paul,
That was depressing. And my parents think so too. Will you pay for my college education?
Daniel F.
This 'bailout' is America's new crazy brand of 'Socialism'...without any of the benefits!
Nationalization of AIG, makes the US government owner of the world's largest insurance company with $5.5 trillion in liabilities.
Nationalization of the finance industry, increases the debt to American citizens to $14.8 trillion.
And all the 'players' both past and present continuing to reap $$$ rewards!
The other 95% will continue to lose pensions, 401k, insurance benefits, security benefits, health benefits, paychecks and homes.
No wonder citizens hate their government so much... 18% approval rating and 'crashing'.
This 'bailout' cannot go forward in it's present form.
Since FDIC and credit union funds/deposits are already protected by governement insurance, what would happen if:
1)a new arm of the FHA sorts out the homeowner-held-mortgages, vets them, adjusts them, insures them and, if necessary, places them with a new bank/mortgage company and 2)let other investment chips fall where they may?
I disagree. Remember that economist on the News Hour from Carneggie Mellon who said, "Ive been around for 40 years and there have always been false alarms. There is enough private cash out there to buy these investment banks and banks to solve the problem." I agree.
This seems like the next appropriate attempt at solution...it seemed to work well with S&L. It will take time, but seems like things have worked ok with the S&Ls since then despite some backlog of investment vehicles.
We tried to give the poor judgment of the investment bankers validity in the failed bailout. It would be no worse than giving validity to the often victims of that poor judgement, home owners.
It is worth a try...
Is exuberance really necessary to explain spontaneous optimism?
Instead, isn't it sufficient to assume that investors believe they can sell faster than other (competitive) investors if markets drop, i.e., investors follow the "Greater Fool" theory? Don't markets rise because of continued capital influx from exuberant investors, rather than from the investments themselves? (I'm ignoring profit through dividends here. :-)
If so, I'm having trouble seeing the difference between investors playing an investment game and gamblers playing a poker game. Aren't both simply after each other's money?
The underlying fact is that people will still have mountains of credit card debt and home mortgages they should never have taken out in the first place. There is no inherent reason why banks wouldn't take the money and continue the practices that generated the problem. This is inevitable correction that needs to run its course. At some point, the bill needs to be paid and the ponzi scheme has to come to end. The Dow should go down because it should never have gone up to such heights in the first place. Quick answers, such as a bail out bill, are what people have come to expect. But we all need to take our medicine at some point. Now's as good a time as any. Let's see proper valuation now and get ready for the next tidal waves to be ushered in when the entitlement spending problems (social security and medicare with an aging population) rears its head in the next few years. Neither of the candidates mentioned that during the debate. How curious? Carpe Diem.