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TOPIC: Military
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Posted: July 25, 2007

Pilots Discuss Use of Osprey

Forum Introduction
V-22 Osprey The V-22 Osprey, an airplane that can land and take off like a helicopter, is expected to deploy to Iraq in September, although critics contend it has design flaws. Two pilots answered your questions about the aircraft.
QUESTIONS
What does the Osprey do better than other aircraft that makes it worth the cost?
How intense is the rotor downwash with respect to the expected need to swoop in and pick up ground troops?
How prevalent is "vortex ring state" in landing?
With no auto-rotation landing, what does the pilot do if both engines fail?
What happens if one engine fails?
What would the pilots do to survive a plane in vertical mode dropping like a rock?
Were helicopter problems in the past mostly due to human error?
Is it important for military operations to have one aircraft be a helicopter and airplane?
What role would the Osprey perform in Iraq?
Jon Organ of Seattle asks:
How intense is the rotor downwash with respect to the expected need to swoop in and pick up ground troops in the Iraqi desert?
ANSWERS
Jim Furman responds:

It depends on the environment. All helicopters create a downwash. The Osprey, for its lifting capacity, creates a lot more. In a very dusty/snowy environment, the Osprey will experience "brown out" or "white out" before a helicopter of similar lifting capability. The down wash from the Osprey is so intense that it also makes air/sea rescue much more difficult, if not impossible. Also where even a helicopter cannot land because of trees or other obstructions, the downwash from the Osprey puts the personnel trying to "fast rope" or use an extraction ladder at greater risk. The rotor downwash is also extremely hot since the jet engine exhaust are pointing straight down. This creates a problem for sling load hook up and has caused damage to carrier decks.

Lt. Col. Bianca responds:

The V-22 downwash gets a great deal of discussion, but it does not prohibit landing in a sandy or dusty environment. If your question is about "brownout", the aircraft we fly today has significantly advanced features over the aircraft we flew back in 2000 prior to the program re-structure. The MV-22 has three inertial navigation systems that provide hovering cues to the pilot on a display. Under-laid on the display is a digital map that can scale up or down from 200nm down to a handful of meters across. The aircraft's flight control software uses the inertial reference to track drift angle and rate, and also has auto-pilot functions in a hover. Like you saw during the Desert Talon Exercise shown on the program, this is one of the things we train to do on a regular basis. To be truthful, landing a MV-22 in the dust isn't hard for a trained pilot.

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