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FOLLOW THE MONEY

October 18, 1996

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Read Ellen Miller's responses to your questions
NewsHour Coverage of Campaign Finance Reform

Oct. 11, 1996:
Shields & Gigot debate the latest accusations of campaign finance abuses.

Oct. 6, 1996:
Bob Dole and Bill Clinton discuss campaign finance reform during the first presidential debate.

Sept. 29, 1996:
The leaders of Congress discuss reforming the system during the Debate Night: The Future Congress.

Aug. 16, 1996:
Margaret Warner looks at the corporate lobbying and sponsorship at the national conventions.

June 28, 1996:
Shields and Gigot look at the failed attempt to pass the McCain-Feingold reform.

June 28, 1996:
Ellen Miller participates in an Online Forum on the campaign finance reform efforts.

June 24, 1996:
Senator Feingold defends the McCain- Feingold campaign finance reform bill against an opponent

April 15, 1996:
NewsHour coverage of "soft" money contributions.

April 10, 1996:
NewsHour coverage of complaints against organized labor for millions of dollars in campaign spending.

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the handshakeIn the Spring of 1995, this now infamous moment took place when President Bill Clinton and House Speaker Newt Gingrich shook hands and agreed to form a bi-partisan commission to overhaul the campaign finance system. But to date, the commission has never been formed, and efforts to re-tool campaign spending practices failed again in both houses of Congress this year.

Over the past two weeks, sources of campaign contributions have become a dominant issue in the presidential race. When it was revealed that a wealthy banking family from Indonesia had contributed nearly $500,000 to the Democratic National Committee and subsequently met personally with the President, Republicans and reformers cried foul. The revelation came less than a week after the public interest group Common Cause described this year's presidential campaigns as having committed, in their words, "the most egregious violations of campaign spending since Watergate." Republican candidate Bob Dole is not immune from criticism over his supporters like Archer Daniels Midland and various tobacco interests.

Efforts to change the system ran into opposition in the courts as well as in the halls of Congress. In a recent decision, the Supreme Court ruled that spending money in a campaign amounted to speech and to limit that would infringe on the candidate's Constitutional rights. The decision has sparked confrontations throughout the political world as shown in this exchange on last Friday's NewsHour (10/11/96):

    PAUL GIGOT: Common Cause is the arsonist who reports his own fire to the police . . .The system that was designed by Common Cause and some of their intellectual allies, and that's what comes of spending limits. What's--you can't limit political speech like that.

    MARK SHIELDS: Paul, don't talk to me about speech being money. Money is not speech because if you start to say money is speech, what you're saying is millionaires matter more, let's have a poll tax in the country. Don't blame Common Cause for this situation. It is not Common Cause's fault Common Cause responded, and so did the Congress of the United States in 1975, after Richard Nixon, after the revelations and the disclosures of people being shaken down, extortion, and illegal expenditures. That's what happened. That's what happened in this country. Maybe you weren't around then. I was, and I can tell you how corrupt it was, and I can tell you after that, Paul, we went to a system where, in fact, people did abide by it.

Our Forum asked: Are we becoming too concerned about Political Action Committees and their influence, or are they a real threat to our representative democracy? Can we and should we limit the ability of a candidate to spend money to win an election? Can new reforms improve the situation or will they simply cause new unforeseen problems?

Ellen Miller, Executive Director of the Center for Responsive Politics, answered your questions about the state of campaigning in America.


Questions asked in this forum:

A question from Lisa Johnson of Charlottesville, VA:

Larry Sabato said in an interview with David Gergen that continued regulation of campaign finances would not work. He said there should be a deregulation of the system coupled with stricter disclosure of who is giving money. Do you think his proposal has merit? Why or why not?

Ellen Miller responds:

No. Proposals to deregulate the campaign finance system go in precisely the wrong direction. If we think the problem of big money in our political system is bad today, hang onto your hats in any deregulated system.

Even at the current $1,000 level, the financing of our politics is out of reach for all but the very few in our society who can afford to "pay to play." Right now, less than one-quarter of one percent of the people of this country make a contribution to congressional candidates of $200, let alone one of $1,000.

Raising the contribution limits, or doing away with them, as Sabato suggests, would put the financing of our elections even more securely in the hands of wealthy economic interests, causing an even more dramatic skewing of public policy in favor of big campaign contributors and putting dreams of running for office only into the heads of those who are personally wealthy or those who will beholden to wealthy interests.

Disclosure, even improved disclosure will only tell us how bad the system is. It wont do anything to establish a political system that is fair for candidates and voters.

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A question from Stephanie Jenkins of Wichita, KS:

If the Supreme Court has, at least for now, essentially equated money with speech, how can real reform occur? Can a regulation limit the amount of money spent in a campaign and still stand up under judicial review?

Ellen Miller responds:

There are proposals that stand up to and are perfectly consistent with the Supreme Court's decision -- Buckley v. Valeo. These are proposals that offer to candidates voluntary systems of public financing. Those candidates who opt into the system agree to accept limits on spending and other restrictions in exchange for public funds.

While there are proposals that are consistent with Buckley and can be crafted to comply with it, the money-equals-speech equation (which made little sense 20 years ago when it was established by the Supreme Court) makes even less sense today when it is clear that the speech of candidates and voters who can't raise or contribute lots of money is being silenced by the massive amounts of money being raised and spent by the wealthy.

Senator Bill Bradley put it this way: A poor man's soapbox does not equal a rich man's wallet.

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A question from Shelley Cunningham of St. Paul, MN:

A lot has been made of the recent "Indonesian Connection." Is this kind of foreign support for a political party unprecedented or has it happened before and not been noticed?

Ellen Miller responds:

We do not know the degree to which overseas corporations and individuals fund political campaign since there is no clear cut way of identifying them. The bigger issue really is whether corporate campaign contributions from any source corrupt candidates and our elected officials. In this instance, the Republicans have accused the Clinton Administration of offering special deals for big campaign contributors. If campaign contributions from private interests who seek special favors are a problem for Democrats, which indeed they are, then they are also a problem for Republicans. It's time we came down hard on the political double standard.

In reality, our campaign finance system is a quid-pro-quo system. Both parties and every candidate is up to his or her eyebrows in it. When candidates for political office solicit and receive big bucks for their political campaigns, big favors are incurred. Both parties know it. Both parties do it.

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A question from Andrew Langer of New York, NY:

Having once worked on a campaign and done research at the FEC, I know you can obtain lists of all sorts of donors to individual campaigns. This is public information which any journalist can look up. Don't they have some responsibility to, as the Forum says, "Follow the Money" and find out where this money is coming from? Do you think the press does an adequate job reporting on this issue?

Ellen Miller responds:

The press has done an excellent job in following the money. Could they do more. Of course. There are a huge number of resources for them now, including access to the data bases of the Center for Responsive Politics and our Web page at www.crp.org. I think the biggest challenge for the press to tell the money in politics story in terms that people can understand, addressing the fundamental "bread and butter" issues that most of us care about.

Why citizens should care about money and politics should become the watchword of political reporting. This is because whether you care about gambling, or food safety, about higher cable television bills or electric utility rates, campaign contributions make a difference. It is critically important to raise a flag about how ordinary citizens are largely left out of the law-writing process, while monied interests always have a seat at the table and how the results can affect what citizens care about.

Here are a few examples:

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A question from Domenico Russo of Blue Point, NY:

On the issue of campaign finance reform, it appears that any attempt to limit campaign contributions will inevitably be challenged on grounds that it is unconstitutional. Would it not be a better idea to promote reform by eliminating the advantage of money in campaigning altogether? One way to accomplish this is to require broadcasters to allot an extensive amount of time during election years to free and open debate and discussion among all registered candidates. [What is your opinion of this proposal?]

Ellen Miller responds:

Mr. Russo has this just right when he suggests that the best campaign finance reform proposal would be to eliminate the advantage of money altogether. The only proposal that would do that is one that is being advanced by activists in nearly a dozen states around the country -- a voluntary system of full public financing in which candidates qualify for funding by raising a set number of small dollar contributions.

No single campaign finance reform measure is capable of solving all the problems associated with the impact of private money on America's elections. But this proposal will eliminate the indebtedness that lawmakers feel after Election Day -- the obligations that come from accepting large amounts of campaign money from private interests. Thus, lawmakers will feel much less pressure to hand out subsidies, tax breaks, and other kinds of legislative favors to corporations and the wealthy. As a result, taxpayers are likely to save billions of dollars. In short, a system of full public financing will create a Congress that, at the very least, is no longer dependent on big-money interests for campaign funds and is therefore more capable of acting in the public interest.

No single proposal will guarantee greater voter participation or greater participation in the political process in general -- or assure that the nation moves closer to real democracy. However, a system of full public financing can serve as a galvanizing new beginning. Many people choose not to vote or otherwise get involved in politics because they are convinced that the political system is already bought and sold and that their participation makes no difference. By removing personal wealth or the ability to raise large sums of money as a prerequisite for getting elected to major public office, it is reasonable to believe that people's confidence in their government and their willingness to participate in the political process will increase. As ordinary citizens without access to wealth see that more people like themselves are running for and winning elections -- and that once in office public officials who want to get reelected are working harder to address the issues and concerns of ordinary voters -- they are more likely to believe that their participation can make a difference.

As part of this proposal, broadcasters should offer extensive free broadcast time to candidates.

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Additional Comments:

Dan Gorman of Chicago IL

dan gorman Thanks for once again hosting a forum on a topic that goes to the heart of American public life.

I have felt strongly for many years now that perhaps the single most urgent problem in our public life is our increasingly pervasive and corrosive cynicism toward public officials and public institutions. Though we have always had a strong tradition of skepticism toward politicians and other figures of authority, there was a time, not too long ago, when ordinary citizens were, if anything, too credulous toward elected officials.

The searing, and disillusioning experiences of President Kennedy's assassination, Vietnam, and Watergate (along with a great many lesser events) taught us well the lesson that "official" information is not always reliable. Our leaders developed the habit of telling us half-truths, and outright lies, too often rationalizing them by invoking the need for "national security." The press did its job by exposing many of these abuses, and the unfortunate, though understandable reaction of many citizens was to habitually discount any and every public utterance by any public official on any subject.

We have come to the point where a critical component of the democratic dialogue between citizens and their leaders is all but impossible. Ordinary people tend to think that social problems are simpler than they really are, and that politicians make them sound more complex than necessary as a way to muddy the waters so that they can pursue their own policy agendas. While this is undoubtedly true at times, we habitually tune out any message from public officials that doesn't fit our preconceived notions of reality. We don't recognize the truth when we hear it. Politicians know that there are certain messages that just will not go through, no matter what evidence is shown, and so give up on trying to tell us things we don't want to hear.

This is an incredibly long-winded way of saying how important it is that we begin to restore the needed mutual trust between citizens and their leaders by enacting meaningful, substantive reform of campaign financing and lobbying. Most of us don't know the technical details of how campaigns are financed, nor the nuances of the relationship between interest groups and public officials, but we know intuitively that there is a great, and growing disparity between the influence of ordinary citizens and that of wealthy, well-organized lobbies.

The history of reform efforts has shown that tinkering with the mechanics of how campaigns are funded, or how lobbyists may interact with public officials is ineffective. Money, if it is needed, will find its way to those who seek it. We need to break the link between money and political speech, and these days, this means fundamentally reordering the relationship between politics and television. We must find a way to provide free, or low-cost access to television for candidates, and do so in a way that their messages will reach people -- that is, not a 3:00 am on a little-watched channel. There are legitimate free speech and property issues to grapple with here, but grapple we must.

We must also realize that not all campaign contributions "buy influence," but find a way to shed light on those that do. The press does as much of this as it currently can, but it may be that we need much fuller disclosure of contributions and contacts between public officials and those with interests in public policy.

If Bill Clinton wants to leave his stamp on American history, he could leave us no finer legacy than this. He should make real, fundamental campaign finance and lobbying reform the centerpiece and number-one priority of his second term, and spend whatever political capital he has to push through legislation -- including Constitutional amendments, if necessary -- and make the 1998 mid-term elections a referendum on a vision of democracy for the twenty-first century.

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