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REP. ED BRYANT


January 14, 1999


President Clinton  

Rep. Ed Bryant, a Republican from Tennessee, begins the House's factual presentation.

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Rep. BryantI am Ed Bryant, the Representative from the 7th District of Tennessee. During this portion of the case, I, along with Representative Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas, Representative Jim Rogan of California and Representative Bill McCollum of Florida will present the factual elements of the case. Our presentation is a very broad road map in which I will first provide the history and background of the parties, followed by Mr. Hutchinson and Mr. Rogan who will review the Articles of Impeachment. Mr. McCollum will close with a summation of these facts and evidence.

It is our intent to proceed in a chronological fashion, although by necessity, there will be some overlap of the facts and circumstances arising from what I have termed "the four-way intersection collision" of President William Jefferson Clinton, Ms. Paula Corbin Jones, Ms. Monica Lewinsky and the U.S. Constitution.

As a further preface to my remarks, permit me to say that none of us present today in these hallowed chambers relishes the task before us. But, we did not choose to be involved in that reckless misconduct, nor did we make those reasoned and calculated decisions to coverup that misconduct which underlie this proceeding. The collision at the intersection of the President, Ms. Jones and Ms. Lewinsky was not enough to bring us together. No. Had truth been a witness at this collision and prevailed, we would not be here. But when it was not present, even under an oath to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth in a judicial matter, the impact of our Constitution must be felt. Hence, we are together today-- to do our respective duties.

By voting these Articles of Impeachment, the House is not attempting to raise the standard of conduct to perfection for our political leadership. Such a person does not walk the world today. Everyone falls short of this mark daily.

But political life is not so much about how an individual fails, but rather how the person reacts to that failure. For example. A person campaigning for a political office admits wrongdoing in his past and says he will not do that again. Most people accept that commitment. He is elected. Thereafter, he repeats the wrongdoing and is confronted again. What does he do? He takes steps to cover up this wrongdoing by using his workers and friends. He lies under oath in a lawsuit which is very important to the person he is alleged to have harmed. He then takes a political poll as to whether he should tell the truth under oath. The poll indicated the voters would not forgive him for lying under oath. So he then denies the truth under oath in a federal grand jury. If this person is the President of the United States, the House of Representatives would consider articles of impeachment. It did and voted to impeach this President.

But do not let it be argued in these chambers that " We are not electing Saints, we are electing a President." Rather, let it be said that we are electing people who are imperfect and who have made mistakes in life, but who are willing to so respect this country and the Office of the President that he or she will now lay aside their own personal shortcomings and have the inner strength to discipline themselves sufficiently that they do not break the law which they themselves are sworn to uphold.

Every trial must have a beginning and this trial begins on a cold day in January 1993.

As you can see from the video, William Jefferson Clinton, placed his left hand on a Bible in front of his wife, the Chief Justice and every American watching that day and affirmatively acknowledged his oath of office. On that very day and again in January 1997, the President joined a privileged few. He became only the 42nd person in our nation to make the commitment to "faithfully execute" the office of the President and to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution." He has the complete executive power of the Nation vested in him by virtue of this Constitution.

As we progress throughout the day, I would ask that you be reminded of the importance of this oath.

William Jefferson Clinton is a man of great distinction. He is well-educated with degrees from Georgetown and Yale Law School. He has taught law school courses to aspiring young lawyers. He served as Governor and Attorney General for the state of Arkansas, enforcing the laws of that state. The President now directs our great nation. He sets our agenda and creates national policy in a very public way -- he is in fact a role model for many.

President Clinton also serves as the nation's Chief Law Enforcement Officer. It is primarily in this capacity that the President appoints federal judges. Within the Executive Branch, he selected Attorney General Janet Reno and appointed each of the 93 United States Attorneys who are charged with enforcing all federal civil and criminal law in federal courthouses from Anchorage, Alaska to Miami, Florida and from San Diego, California to Bangor, Maine. As protectors of our Constitution, the U.S. Attorneys and their assistants prosecute more than 50,000 cases per year.

Rep. BryantThrough these appointments and his administration's policies, the President establishes the climate of this country for law and order. Each and every one of these 50,000 cases handled by his U.S. Attorneys is dependent upon the parties and witnesses telling the truth under oath. Equally as important in these proceedings is that justice not be obstructed by tampering with witnesses and hiding evidence.

Quoting from the November 9, 1998 Constitution Subcommittee testimony of Washington D.C. attorney Charles J. Cooper: "The crimes of perjury and obstruction of justice, like the crimes of treason and bribery, are quintessentially offenses against our system of government, visiting injury immediately upon society itself, whether or not committed in connection with the exercise of official government powers. Before the framing of our Constitution and since, our law has consistently recognized that perjury primarily and directly injures the body politic, for it subverts the judicial process and this strikes at the heart of the rule of law itself."

Professor Gary McDowell, Director, Institute For United States Studies, University of London, in the same hearing referenced the influential writer William Paley: Paley saw the issue of oaths and perjury as one of morality as well as law... Because a witness swears that he will speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, a person under oath cannot cleverly lie and not commit perjury. If the witness conceals any truth, Paley writes, that relates to the matter in adjudication, that is as much a violation of the oath, as to testify a positive falsehood...Shame or embarrassment cannot justify his concealment of truth...linguistic contortions with the words used cannot legitimately conceal a lie, or if under oath, perjury. Professor McDowell concludes with a quote from Paley which accurately provides the essence of a lie or perjurious statement. "It is willful deceit that makes the lie; and we willfully deceive, where our expressions are not true in the sense in which we believe the hearer apprehends them." Nor has this Senate been silent on the issue of perjury. You have rightfully recognized through previous impeachment proceedings the unacceptable nature of a high government official lying under oath, even in matters initially arising from what some would argue here are merely personal. In 1989, many of you present today, using the very same standard set forth in the Constitution for impeaching a federal judge or the President, actually voted in support of a conviction and the removal of U.S. District Judge Walter Nixon for perjury. Indeed, truth-telling is the single most important judicial precept underpinning this great system of justice we have, one which permits the courthouse doors to be open to all people, from the most powerful man in America to a young woman in Arkansas.

On May 6, 1994, Paula Corbin Jones attempted to open that courthouse door when she filed a federal sexual harassment lawsuit against President Clinton. The case arose from a 1991 incident when she was a state employee and he was the Governor. Further details of the underlying allegations are not important to us today, but Ms. Jones' pursuit for the truth is worth a careful study. The parties first litigated the question of whether Ms. Jones' lawsuit would have to be deferred until after the President left office. The Supreme Court unanimously rejected the President's contention and allowed the case to proceed without further delay. Ms. Jones sought and, appropriately, won "her day in court". Incumbent with this victory, though, was the reasonable expectation that President Clinton would tell the truth. After all, this was the most important case in the whole world to Paula Corbin Jones.

However, this did not happen. Even after the President was ordered to stand trial, pursuing the truth for Ms. Jones remained an elusive task. The evidence will indicate that President Clinton committed perjury and orchestrated a wide variety of efforts to obstruct justice, all of which had the effect of preventing the discovery of truth in her case. During the discovery phase, Judge Susan Webber Wright of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District Court of Arkansas ordered the President to answer certain historical questions about his sexual relations with either state or federal employees. In part, Judge Wright said: "The Court finds, therefore, that the plaintiff is entitled to information regarding any individuals with whom the President had sexual relations or proposed or sought to have sexual relations and who were during the relevant time frame state or federal employees." (Referral at 6.) Judge Wright validated Ms. Jones right to use this accepted line of questioning in sexual harassment litigation. More often than not, these cases involve allegations of "he said, she said", produce issues of credibility and are done in private. Because of this, they are difficult for a victim to prove. Such standard questions are essential in establishing whether the defendant has committed the same kind of acts before or since. In other words, a "pattern and practice" of harassing conduct. The existence of corroborative evidence or the lack thereof is likely to be critical. Both the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission guidelines and the Federal Rules of Evidence, 404(b) permit the use of this evidence. In short, a defendant's sexual history, at least with respect to other employees, is ordinarily discoverable in a sexual harassment suit. (Referral at 6)

To not expect a defendant in this type of litigation to speak the truth creates, in its worst case, a very real danger that the entire area of sexual harassment law would be irreparably damaged, and in its best case, sends outs a very wrong message. As such, the will and intent of Congress with regard to providing protection against sexual harassment in the work place would be effectively undermined.

The "pattern and practice" witnesses whom Paula Corbin Jones was entitled to discover should have included the name of Monica Lewinsky. But before I discuss Ms. Lewinsky further, I want to offer three matters of caution to each of you as jurors in this very important matter:

1. I do not intend to discuss the specific details of the President's encounters with Monica Lewinsky. However, I do not want to give the Senate the impression that those encounters are irrelevant or lack serious legal implications. In fact, everyday in courtrooms all across America, victims of sexual harassment, rape, assault and abuse must testify, in many cases publically, in order to vindicate their personal rights and society's right to be free from these intolerable acts.

The President's lies about his conduct in the Oval Office with Ms. Lewinsky also make these unseemly details highly relevant. If you are to accept the President's version about the relationship, you must ,in effect, say to her that she is the one who is disregarding the truth. But beyond this, his denials not only directly contradict Ms. Lewinsky's testimony, but also contradict eight of her friends and the statements by two professional counselors with whom she contemporaneously shared details of her relationship. By law, their testimony may serve as proper and admissible evidence to corroborate her side of this unfortunate story. (Referral at 138.)

2. The evidence and testimony in this proceeding must be viewed as a whole; it cannot be compartmentalized. Please do not be misled into considering each event in isolation, and then treating it separately. Remember, events and words that may seem innocent or even exculpatory in a vacuum may well take on sinister, or even criminal connotation when observed in the context of the whole plot. For example, we all agree that Ms. Lewinsky testified "No one ever told me to lie..."

When considered alone this statement would seem exculpatory. In the context of other evidence, we see that this one statement gives a misleading inference. Of course no one said, "Now, Monica, you go in there and lie." They didn't have to. Based upon their previous spoken and even unspoken words, Ms. Lewinsky knew what was expected of her. Surely, if the President were to come to the Senate floor and give testimony, he would not tell you that he honestly expected her to tell the truth about their personal relationship. After all, the purpose of her filing the affidavit was to avoid testifying in the Jones case. If she had told the truth in the affidavit, she would have been invited to testify immediately if not sooner!

3. Throughout our presentation of the facts, especially as it relates to the various illegal acts, I ask that you pay particular attention to the RESULTS of these various illegal acts, as well as WHO BENEFITTED. Please make a mental note now, and always ask yourself: A) What was the result of this action? B) Who benefitted from this result? I believe that you will find that the evidence will show that while the President's "fingerprints" may not be directly on the evidence proving these illegal acts, the results of the acts usually enure to the benefit of the President and the President alone . Subordinates and friends alike are drawn into this web of deceit. The President is insulated. Crimes are committed. Justice is denied. The Rule of Law is suspended. And this President is the beneficiary. Some examples: 1. Subpoenaed evidence disappears from Ms. Lewinsky's apartment and reappears under Ms. Currie's bed. Result/Benefit 2. Ms. Lewinsky files false affidavit in Jones case. Result/Benefit 3. President's attorney files the Lewinsky affidavit, not knowing it was false, representing to the Court that "there is absolutely no sex of any kind in any manner, shape or form". President sits silently. Result/Benefit (Referral at 174). 4. Ms. Lewinsky, after months of job searching in NYC, is offered a job with a Fortune 500 company in NYC within 48 hours of her signing the false affidavit. Result/Benefit

Rep. BryantAnother example occurred in a meeting between the President and Ms. Lewinsky on July 4, 1997, when as a part of their conversation, she mentioned that she had heard from someone that Newsweek was working on a story about Kathleen Willey. The President had Ms. Lewinsky back for a visit on July 14th following his return from an overseas trip. She was questioned about the Willey story, and specifically, if Linda Tripp had been her source. Important to this point, the President then asked Ms. Lewinsky to try to persuade Ms. Tripp to call White House Legal Counsel Bruce Lindsey. The President told her to notify Ms. Currie the following day, "without getting into the details with her, even mentioning names with her", whether Ms. Lewinsky had "mission-accomplished' ***with Linda". She was unsuccessful. (Referral at 69.) As you will learn from Mr. Hutchinson who will follow with his presentation, this is similar to another job the President requested be done, but which succeeded with a "Mission accomplished."

I want to now rewind the clock back to November, 1995. We are here in Washington where Ms. Lewinsky has been working at the White House since July.



As you continue to listen to the evidence, from this point on November 15th forward, remember that Ms. Lewinsky and the President were alone in the Oval Office workplace area at least 21 times. They had at least 11 of the so-called salacious encounters there in the workplace at various time during the day and night: 3 in 1995, 5 in 1996 and 3 in 1997. They had in excess of 50 telephone conversations, most of which appear to have been calls to or from Ms. Lewinsky. They exchanged some 64 gifts, the President receiving 40 presents and Ms. Lewinsky 24.

We know their affair began on November 15th. Interestingly, there is conflict even here. They had never spoken to each other up to that time. Yet, he asked this unknown intern into a private area off the Oval Office and kissed her. He invited her to return to his office later that same day when the two engaged in the first of the eleven acts of misconduct. The contradiction in testimony with President Clinton's appears in his written statement used before the federal grand jury: "I regret that what began as a friendship came to include this conduct..."As Ms. Lewinsky's internship was ending, she applied for and received a paying job with the White House Office of Legislative Affairs. This position allowed her even more access to the Oval Office area. She remained a White House employee until April, 1996 when she was reassigned to the Pentagon. The proof would show that Ms. Evelyn Lieberman, Deputy Chief of Staff at the time, believed the transfer was necessary because Ms. Lewinsky was so persistent in her efforts to be near the President. Although Ms. Lieberman could not recall having heard any rumors linking her and the President, she acknowledged that the President was vulnerable to these kinds of rumors. (Referral at 42.) While Ms. Lewinsky tried to return to work in the White House, her absence was appreciated by those on the President's staff who wanted to protect him. After she began her job at the Pentagon in April, there was no further physical contact with the President through the 1996 election and the remainder of the year. The two communicated by telephone and occasionally, saw each other at public events. Their only attempt at a private visit in the Oval Office was thwarted because Ms. Lieberman was nearby. On December 17th, she attended a holiday celebration at the White House and had a photograph made shaking hands with the President. However, the evidence establishes that in 1997, Ms. Lewinsky was more successful in arranging visits. She used the discreet assistance of Ms. Currie to avoid the likes of Ms. Lieberman. Ms. Currie indicated that she did not want to know the details of the relationship. She testified that on one occasion when Ms. Lewinsky told her, "As long as no one saw us--and no one did--then nothing happened." Ms. Currie responded: "Don't want to hear it. Don't say any more. I don't want to hear any more." (Referral at 55.) Early on during their secret liaisons, the two had concocted a cover story to use if discovered. Ms. Lewinsky was to say she was bringing papers to the President. The evidence will show this statement to be false. The only papers she ever brought were personal messages having nothing to do with her duties or the President's. The cover story plays an important role in the later perjuries and obstruction of justice. (Judiciary Report at 7) Ms. Lewinsky stated that the President did not expressly instruct her to lie. He did, however, suggest the "misleading" cover story. And, when she assured him that she planned to lie about the relationship, he responded approvingly. On the frequent occasions when she promised that she would "always deny" the relationship and "always protect him," for example, the President responded, in her recollection, "That's good,' or--something affirmative. ***"Not, don't deny it." Referral at 23.

The evidence will establish further that the two of them had, in her words, "a mutual understanding" that they would "keep this private, so that meant deny it and ***take whatever appropriate steps needed to be taken." When she and the President both were subpoenaed in the Jones case, Ms. Lewinsky anticipated that "as we had on every other occasion and every other instance of this relationship, we would deny it." Referral at 22.

In his grand jury testimony, President Clinton acknowledged that he and Ms. Lewinsky "might have talked about what to do in a nonlegal context' to hide their relationship, and that he "might well have said" that Ms. Lewinsky should tell people that she was bringing letters to him or coming to visit Ms. Currie. But he always stated that "I never asked Ms. Lewinsky to lie." Referral at 24.

But neither did the President ever say they must now tell the truth under oath; to the contrary, as Ms. Lewinsky stated: "It wasn't as if the President called me and said, 'You know, Monica, you're on the witness list, this is going to be really hard for us, we're going to have to tell the truth and be humiliated in front of the entire world about what we've done,' which I would have fought him on probably. That was different. And by him not calling me and saying that, you know, I knew what that meant.' Judiciary at 172.

In a related, but later incident that Mr. Hutchinson may refer to, Monica Lewinsky testified that President Clinton telephoned her at home around 2:00 to 2:30 in the morning on December 17, 1997. He told her that her name was on the list of possible witnesses to be called in the Jones case. When asked what to do if she was subpoenaed, the President suggested she could sign an affidavit. Ms. Lewinsky indicated that she was 100% sure that he had suggested that she might want to sign an affidavit. She understood his advice to mean that she might be able to execute an affidavit that would not disclose the true nature of their relationship. (Judiciary at 171.)

Rep. BryantWhen Ms. Lewinsky agreed to a false affidavit, she told the President by telephone that she would be signing it and asked him if he wanted to see it. According to her, the President responded that he did not, as he had already seen about 15 others. (Referral at 106.) Concurrent with the events I have just described, the evidence will further demonstrate that as Ms. Lewinsky attempted to return to work at the White House after the 1996 elections, she spoke with President Clinton. According to Bettie Currie, the President instructed her and Marsha Scott, Deputy Director of Personnel, to assist in her return to the White House. (Referral at 63.) In the Spring of 1997, Ms. Lewinsky met with Ms. Scott. She complained with subsequent notes to Ms. Scott and the President about no progress being made. On July 3rd of that year, she dispatched a more formal letter to the President using the salutation "Dear Sir" and raising the possible threat that she might have to tell her parents about why she no longer had a job at the White House. She also indicated her possible interest with a job in New York at the United Nations. They met the next day in what she characterized as a "very emotional" visit, including the President scolding her that it was illegal to threaten the President of the United States. Their conversation moved on to other topics, primarily her complains about his failure to get her a job at the White House. (Referral at 67)

Continuing with Ms. Lewinsky's effort to return to work near the President, there was a July 16th meeting and a September 3rd telephone call with Ms. Scott. On the evening of September 30th, the President advised Ms. Lewinsky that he would have Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles help in the job search, and Bowles later passed this on to John Podesta, although each recall their involvement occurring earlier in the year. (Referral at 74). Just a few days later, however, her hopes of a job at the White House quickly ended. On October 6th, she had a conversation with Linda Tripp who told her that she would never return to work there, this according to a friend on the staff. Learning about this "second-hand" was, according to Ms. Lewinsky, "the straw that broke the camel's back". She decided to ask the President for a job in New York with the United Nations and sent him a letter to that effect on October 7th. During an October 11th meeting with the President, he suggested she give him a list of New York companies which interested her. She asked if Vernon Jordan might also help her. Five days later, she provided the President with her "wish list" and indicated that she was no longer interested in a U.N. position, although she did later receive an offer on November 24th and declined it on January 5, 1998. After this meeting with the President, arrangements are made through the President and Ms. Currie for Ms. Lewinsky to meet with Mr. Jordan. On the morning of November 5th, Mr. Jordan spoke by telephone with the President for 5 minutes and later met with Ms. Lewinsky for 20 minutes. According to her, He told her that he had spoken with the President, that she came "highly recommended" and that "We're in business".

However, the evidence reflects that Mr. Jordan took no steps to help Ms. Lewinsky until early December of that year, after she appeared on the witness list in the Jones case. Actually, Mr. Jordan testified in a March 3, 1998 grand jury proceeding that he had "no recollection of having met with Ms. Lewinsky on November 5." (Referral at 85). When shown documentary evidence demonstrating that his first meeting with Ms. Lewinsky occurred in early November, he acknowledged that such a meeting "was entirely possible". For many months, Ms. Lewinsky had not been able to find a job to her satisfaction-- even with the "help" of various people. Then in December of 1997, something happened which caused those interested in finding Ms. Lewinsky a job in New York to intensify the search. Within 48 hours of her signing the affidavit, Ms. Lewinsky had landed a job with a prestigious Fortune 500 Company. It is anticipated that attorneys for the President will present arguments which will contest much of his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky. The President has maintained throughout the last few months that while there was no sexual relationship or affair, in fact, there was some type of inappropriate intimate contact with her. What has now been dubbed as "legal gymnastics" on the part of the President arrives.

Other examples were to follow. Within his definition of the word "alone", he denies being alone with Ms. Lewinsky at any time in the Oval Office. Further, we would expect the President to continue to disavow knowledge of why evidence detrimental to his defense of the Jones case was removed from Ms. Lewinsky's apartment and hidden beneath Ms. Currie's bed or knowledge of how Ms. Lewinsky found herself with an employment offer in New York virtually at the same time she executed the affidavit in the Jones case.

Unfortunately for your search for the truth in the proceedings, the President continues to parse his words and use "legal hairsplitting" in his defense. I cite for your consideration his Answer filed with this Body just days ago. For instance: 1. Responding in part to the Impeachment Article I, the President persists, in a wrongheaded fashion, with his legal hair-splitting of the term "sexual relations" which permits him to define it in such a way that-- in the salacious act at issue, one person has sex and the other does not. As a graduate of one of the finest law schools in America and as a former law professor and State Attorney General, the President knows better.

2. Responding to both Articles of Impeachment, the President now would have you believe that he "was not focusing" when his attorney Bob Bennett was objecting and attempting to cut off questioning of the President by representing to Judge Wright that Ms. Lewinsky's affidavit proved that "there is absolutely no sex of any kind in any manner, shape or form". Remember that this is the same President who is renowned for his intelligence and ability "to compartmentalize" or focus or concentrate on whatever the matter is at hand. Now he comes before you, by and through his attorneys, and pleads that he simply wasn't paying attention at this important point during his own deposition. In Tennessee, we have a saying for situations like this. "That dog won't hunt."

3. His further response to Article I effectively admits his guilt to obstruction. His pleadings refer to the President stating, "He truthfully explained to the grand jury his efforts to answer the questions in the Jones deposition without disclosing his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky." Then at the bottom of the same page 4 of this Answer, he says that he denies that he attempted "to impede the discovery of evidence in the Jones case." Think about this with me a minute. The purpose of the Jones deposition of the President was to secure truthful testimony about "pattern and practice" witnesses and therein discover the likes of Ms. Lewinsky. The President has just admitted in his Answer that he purposefully answered questions so as not to disclose his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky. Said another way-he intentionally answered questions to avoid the discovery of one of his female employees with whom he was sexually involved. That is precisely what impeding the discovery of evidence is.

4. In his Answer to Article II, the President "denies that he encouraged Monica Lewinsky to execute a false affidavit in the Jones case". When everything is said and done, Ms. Lewinsky had no motivation or reason to want to commit a crime by willfully submitting a false affidavit with a court of law. She really did not need to do this at that point in her life. But this twenty- something young lady was listening to the most powerful man in the United States, a man she greatly admired, and hearing him effectively instruct her to file an affidavit to avoid having to testify about their sexual relationship, and in order to do that, she had to lie about the physical aspects of their relationship. According to her, the President didn't even want to review the actual affidavit because he had seen fifteen more just like it and as such, knew it would be right.

5. In additional response to Article II, the President asserts that "he believed that Ms. Lewinsky could have filed a limited but truthful affidavit that might have enabled her to avoid having to testify in the Jones case. That is an incredible statement given the fact that the President knew first-hand of the extent of their sexual relationship and that the Jones discovery efforts were specifically after that type of conduct. Even with the best of legal hair-splitting, it is still difficult to envision a truthful affidavit from Ms. Lewinsky which could have skirted this issue enough to avoid testifying.

And, if the President had REALLY held this belief, don't you think he would have accepted Ms. Lewinsky's offer to review her affidavit and share his wisdom with her before she signed it? After all, in this Answer he just filed with you, he says he had an out for her-a way to have the best of both worlds-not to have to lie and still avoid testifying in the Jones case.

Even if, for some reason, you don't believe Ms. Lewinsky gave him the opportunity to review the affidavit, don't you think it would still have been in the President's best interest to give Ms. Lewinsky his thoughts before she violated the law with a completely false affidavit?

As a House Manager, I believe I can speak for all us, out of a sense of fairness, and again request that we and the President be permitted to call witnesses. I would submit that the state of the evidence is such that unless and until the President has the opportunity to confront and cross-examine witnesses like Ms. Lewinsky, and himself, to testify if he desires, there could not be any doubt of his guilt on the facts. A reasonable and impartial review of this present record demands nothing less than a guilty verdict. While it has been the consistent defense of the White House to be inconsistent, it still comes as something of a surprise that the President has not made a stronger case for calling for witnesses. Before now, he has aggressively sought the opportunity to challenge the truth and veracity of witnesses in these impeachment proceedings. During the hearings in the House, which many believe are analogous to a grand jury proceeding, the President's defenders and his attorneys consistently complained of the failure to call witnesses and lack of fairness and due process. Almost everyday, there were partisan attacks from the White House and its emissaries who were dispatched throughout the media talk shows with the same complaints of no witnesses.

And always, our response was the calm assurance that there would be witnesses called during the trial phase in the Senate. Is there any doubt that our forefathers intended a two-step impeachment proceeding? The House would function as the Grand Jury and determine whether to charge-- to impeach. Then you, as the trier of fact, would function as the jury to try the case and weigh the testimony of the fact witnesses. In recent days, some have publically asserted that the House is hypocritical because it didn't call some of the fact witnesses it now asks to call in the Senate. For the record, it must be noted that the House Judiciary Committee, out of an abundance of fairness, did allow the President's defense team 30 hours during which any of these witnesses could have been examined. But any allegation of hypocrisy certainly appears to miss the point that the writers of our Constitution never contemplated two separate trials for an impeachment proceeding. But now we would respectfully suggest is the time for witnesses. All Americans, including the President, are entitled to enjoy a private family life, free from public or governmental scrutiny. But the privacy concerns raised in this case are subject to limits, three of which I will briefly discuss here. First. The first limit was imposed when the President was sued in federal court for alleged sexual harassment. The evidence in such litigation is often personal. At times, that evidence is highly embarrassing for both plaintiff and defendant. As Judge Wright noted at the President's January 1998 deposition, "I have never had a sexual harassment case where there was not some embarrassment." Nevertheless, Congress and the Supreme Court have concluded that embarrassment-related concerns must give way to the greater interest in allowing aggrieved parties to pursue their claims. Courts have long recognized the difficulties of proving sexual harassment in the work place, inasmuch as improper or unlawful behavior often takes place in private. To excuse a party who lied or concealed evidence on the ground that the evidence covered only "personal" or "private" behavior would frustrate the goals that Congress and the courts have sought to achieve in enacting and interpreting the Nations's sexual harassment laws. That is particularly true when the conduct that is being concealed--sexual relations in the workplace between a high official and a young subordinate employee--itself conflicts with those goals. Second. The second limit was imposed when Judge Wright required disclosure of the precise information that is in part the subject of this hearing today. A federal judge specifically ordered the President, on more than one occasion, to provide the requested information about relationships with other women, including Ms. Lewinsky. The fact that Judge Wright later determined that the evidence would not be admissible at trial, and still later granted judgment in the President's favor, does not change the President's legal duty at the time he testified. Like every litigant, the President was entitled to object to the discovery questions, and to seek guidance from the court if he thought those questions were improper. But having failed to convince the court that his objections were well founded, the President was duty bound to testify truthfully and fully. Perjury and attempts to obstruct the gathering of evidence can never be an acceptable response to a court order, regardless of the eventual course or outcome of the litigation. The Supreme Court has spoken forcefully about perjury and other forms of obstruction of justice: "In this constitutional process of securing a witness' testimony, perjury simply has no place whatever. Perjured testimony is an obvious and flagrant affront to the basic concepts of judicial proceedings. Effective restraints against this type of egregious offense are therefore imperative." The insidious effects of perjury occur whether the case is civil or criminal. Only a few years ago, the Supreme Court considered a false statement made in a civil administrative proceeding: "False testimony in a formal proceeding is intolerable. We must neither reward nor condone such a 'flagrant affront' to truth-seeking function of adversary proceedings...Perjury should be severely sanctioned in appropriate cases." Stated more simply, "perjury is an obstruction of justice." Third. The third limit is unique to the President. "The Presidency is more than an executive responsibility. It is the inspiring symbol of all that is highest in American purpose and ideals." As the head of the Executive Branch, the President has the constitutional duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed". The President gave his testimony in the Jones case under oath and in the presence of a federal judge, a member of a co-equal branch of government; he then testified before a federal grand jury, a body of citizens who had themselves taken an oath to seek the truth. In view of the enormous trust and responsibility attendant to his high Office, the President has a manifest duty to ensure that his conduct at all times complies with the law of the land. In sum, perjury and acts that obstruct justice by any citizen--whether in a criminal case, a grand jury investigation, a congressional hearing, a civil trial or civil discovery--are profoundly serious matters. When such acts are committed by the President of the United States, those acts are grounds for conviction and removal from his Office. ( Referral at 5-7.) As I reach the conclusion of my presentation, the time line is now in December of 1997. Following her November 5th meeting with Mr. Jordan, Ms. Lewinsky had no communication with him or the President for a month. Then in early December, the parties in the Jones case exchanged witness lists and Ms. Lewinsky was scheduled as a potential witness by the Jones' attorneys. On or about that same day, Ms. Lewinsky attempted to make an uninvited visit to the White House and later that day, was allowed in by the President. But it was during this time, in December of 1997, that the some of the seams began to unravel for the President.

I will conclude my remarks at this point and thank the Chief Justice and the Members of the Senate for their attention. My colleague from Arkansas, Mr. Hutchinson will follow me now or at the end of any recess as may be necessary.



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