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| BATON HAXHIU | |
| November 22, 1999 |
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Media correspondent Terence Smith talks with ethnic Albanian journalist Baton Haxhiu, winner of a 1999 Press Freedom Award from the Committee to Protect Journalists. |
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AIR COMMODORE DAVID WILBY: Four other prominent ethnic Albanians were reportedly executed on Sunday, including editor-in-chief of Koha Ditore, Baton Haxhiu. TERENCE SMITH: But in early April, Haxhiu surfaced in Macedonia. He had gone underground, hiding in basements and in friends' apartments, and disguising himself to elude his Serb pursuers.
TERENCE SMITH: Haxhiu and his paper had long been targets of Serb harassment.
Koha Ditore, the largest and most influential Albanian-language daily
in Kosovo, and its editor, were fined heavily and repeatedly by Serb
authorities for allegedly "inciting hatred between nationalities."
Within days of his reappearance, Haxhiu and a small staff, using borrowed
computers and one cell phone, set up shop in Macedonia. Once again they
were publishing Koha Ditore, distributing |
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TERENCE SMITH: Joining us is Baton Haxhiu, the editor of Koha Ditore. He is one of the 1999 winners of the Press Freedom Awards, given by the Committee to Protect Journalists. Welcome to you. Welcome to this country and to the NewsHour. BATON HAXHIU: Very nice to be here.
BATON HAXHIU: Yeah. TERENCE SMITH: You must have known that you were a bit of a target, then. BATON HAXHIU: Between 23 and 24 -- TERENCE SMITH: Of March --
TERENCE SMITH: Yes. BATON HAXHIU: Between 23 and 24. TERENCE SMITH: Of March, right. BATON HAXHIU: Of March. And our office is destroyed. Our bodyguards were also killed, and our print house was destroyed. So from this day, from 24, I was in hiding for many days, until seventh of April. TERENCE SMITH: What was it like to hear -- I gather you heard it on the radio or over the air -- that you were dead? BATON HAXHIU: I heard from CNN news. The press conference in Brussels, and Jimmy Shea, the -- said -- And I think, on 26 or 27 of March, that yesterday, in Pristina, were executed four intellectuals, and including chief editor of Koha Ditore, Baton Haxhiu. TERENCE SMITH: Right. BATON HAXHIU: I was su TERENCE SMITH: And you were not able to call your wife -- BATON HAXHIU: No, no, absolutely. TERENCE SMITH: -- or communicate with her in any way? BATON HAXHIU: No. I was in hiding in the basement for many days, with some apples, and with just water. TERENCE SMITH: Apples and water? BATON HAXHIU: Yeah. |
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BATON HAXHIU: What's happened after 12 days in hiding, paramilitary forces were coming in this area in Pristina. TERENCE SMITH: Where you were? BATON HAXHIU: Yeah. And after that, they just give one or two minutes to -- two minutes to citizens to go out of the flats, and from my basement I saw -- from small windows, I saw people how in deport -- TERENCE SMITH: And they were just fleeing? BATON HAXHIU: And just fleeing. And so I also saw one woman with child, and I said, "Baton, it is good time to go out." I was in mask, of course, and I pleaded to this woman. TERENCE SMITH: When you say a mask, sort of a disguise of some sort?
TERENCE SMITH: And when you got to Macedonia, were you able to call your wife from there? BATON HAXHIU: No. She watched me on TV. I was on -- I was 7 of April, in Bonn, and live conference, press conference from Bonn, and she saw me on TV. TERENCE SMITH: So, she both heard that you were dead -- BATON HAXHIU: Yeah. TERENCE SMITH: -- on the air, and also learned that you were alive? BATON HAXHIU: Yeah. Learned from TV. And people had gone to her to say "Sorry for Baton." And she, for 12 days, she know that I am dead.
BATON HAXHIU: Yeah. My idea was to keep alive ideas with information, with newspaper, for people who stay in the border, and to be back in Kosovo; and the second, to keep stability in Macedonia, because it was very important for us to have stability in Macedonia. TERENCE SMITH: Stability there?
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TERENCE SMITH: So finally, you were able to return to Pristina. What was that like to go home? BATON HAXHIU: Oh. I thought -- it's good to be back in Pristina, and in Kosovo. But Kosovo, it's too much destroyed. Kosovo is the land whose dead speaks... TERENCE SMITH: Where the dead speak? BATON HAXHIU: Yeah, where dead speak. And I think it's -- now we have many mass graves. We have people who are frustrated, we have blood to revenge of course, individual crimes, now. And it's a different post-war period in Kosovo. It's a big political vacuum, it's also -- we not have many institutions. It also has destroyed life in Kosovo.
BATON HAXHIU: Oh, they will stay a long time. TERENCE SMITH: Years? BATON HAXHIU: Years and years, because Balkan needs the troops for stability. If not to go on from Kosovo, we never, never, never can have peace in the Balkans. TERENCE SMITH: And you are now able to publish your paper again? BATON HAXHIU: We are able to publish, but also we have a problem, because people is frustrated, and people need -- especially political parties -- need to say who is the winner of this war. And if we starting to criticize somebody, this is a very big problem because -- TERENCE SMITH: I understand that you have been criticizing some of the Kosovo Liberation Army units and people.
TERENCE SMITH: Right. So it's still a dangerous business being a journalist in Kosovo? BATON HAXHIU: Yeah, especially to be independent is very dangerous, because we have many problems. We have different interests. We don't have security -- court system is destroyed. We have a political vacuum. We didn't have a police system. We don't have many things. And the international community works so slowly in Kosovo. This is a turtle walk in Kosovo, especially OSC (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe). They want to establish media system and broadcast system, but they work very slowly still. TERENCE SMITH: All right. Thank you very much for joining us. BATON HAXHIU: Very nice to be here. |
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