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September 22, 2000 |
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Syndicated columnist Mark Shields and Wall Street Journal columnist Paul Gigot discuss the oil reserves and the week in politics.
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JIM LEHRER: Shields and Gigot. Syndicated columnist Mark Shields and Wall Street Journal columnist Paul Gigot. Mark, what do you make of the decision today to release the oil from the strategic reserve -- politics or good government?
JIM LEHRER: How do you see it, Paul? PAUL GIGOT: Gives a whole new meaning to the word strategic. Little did we know, usually strategic reserve, the last time it was released was during the Gulf War. Now it's aimed at reducing the gas prices of swing voters in Pennsylvania and New England and Michigan. It's wholly and completely political, Jim, no question about it. I think Mark is right. JIM LEHRER: Why is there no question about it? PAUL GIGOT: Well, because it was set up to deal with supply problems, not to deal with fluctuations in price. And this is... Al Gore on Thursday says I want to do this. And on Friday miraculously, the whole United States government says, this is a terrific idea. We're going to do it. I mean it doesn't... JIM LEHRER: Do you think it was cooked? PAUL GIGOT: Sure I do. JIM LEHRER: In other words they said you go out and call for it, and give me two days and I'll do it? |
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MARK SHIELDS: At the risk of dissenting from Paul's enthusiastic indictment here, I think, Jim, Secretary Richardson in his interview with you made the case, I mean this is more than price -- we're talking about a world that uses 75 million barrels a day according to the secretary and is producing 73 million barrels a day. So it's not some manufactured crisis. And there is a political side to George Bush. I mean there's a little bit of the spider and the fly here. JIM LEHRER: The spider and the fly. Take us through that, Mark. MARK SHIELDS: I think in the sense, Jim, that George W. Bush is hobbled on this issue -- he is politically hobbled because of the fact that he, throughout most of his public life and professional life, earned his livelihood in the oil business. And Dick Cheney has been in the oil business for ten years and Dick Cheney is on record, the vice presidential nominee, calling for price increases, why price increases would be good. So I think that at a political tactical level it's to the advantage of Al Gore to engage in a debate with George W. Bush on this issue. JIM LEHRER: Do you see the politics that way, that Gore helped himself with this or that the politics smell so bad it could boomerang or is it too early to say? PAUL GIGOT: If prices go down between now and November, it may help him. It may actually, the people will see tangible results. But there is a risk that it seems so transparent to people, so pandering, that it reminds people of Elian Gonzalez, where it was... where Gore went out and changed his position or adapted it for political gain. I think that's the danger for him. I disagree with Mark on the politics for Bush. Yeah, Bush has that oil background, there is no question about it. I think he should engage on this issue anyway unapologetically. He hasn't been in control for the last eight years. This energy policy is this administration's doing. You can make an indictment of it. Al Gore also has the problem of having been in support of gas tax increase in 1993. He can make that an issue. And Al Gore has family ties to Occidental Petroleum. So I would try to make the case... I would try to make the case that... for change, based on this. JIM LEHRER: You brought pain to Mark's face when you said.... |
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JIM LEHRER: Let's go to quickly otherwise how has the week been for Al Gore? PAUL GIGOT: It was not the best week for Al Gore. He didn't... I mean he's had his worst week in a while, frankly. The gas problem was one of it. He got caught in a little mix-up about saying that his mother paid more for her medicine than his ailing dog did. That turned out not to be true. And then I think he and Joe Lieberman didn't help themselves with this kind of backtracking some on their Hollywood indictment of last week. This week they went out to Hollywood, raised some money and Joe Lieberman said, we love you, your industry, you're terrific; we're just going to nudge you now and again. Bill Bennett, who is Joe Lieberman's partner in a lot of these efforts to shame Hollywood, said that's not what we were about, Senator Lieberman. We were not nudging. We were trying to shame them. It looks like this may not be as sincere an exercise as you said it was. JIM LEHRER: Gore had a bad week? MARK SHIELDS: Not a good week for Al Gore. I agree with Paul on the misstep --especially on the prescription drugs in particular. It kind of raised questions about is this guy somebody who will say things that aren't 100 percent -- a better week for George Bush. No subliminable rats; no open mic night with Adam Clymer; no self-inflicted glitches on the campaign, plus he did well in his Oprah appearance. JIM LEHRER: Regis. |
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MARK SHIELDS: On Regis as well. There was a time when Socrates and Plato were the one name people in a society... Now it's Regis. And he was appealing... there was a political strategy to it, Jim. Because those shows are watched by married women. And while George Bush is getting murdered with women voters - losing very badly with them -- among married women voters, as opposed to unmarried women where he's really getting wiped out by Al Gore, among them he is more than competitive. He has the lead. He so was talking to a constituency that was important.
PAUL GIGOT: Yes. And I agree with Mark about the political strategy, but there was also a media strategy there, which was the one thing about these shows is that they allow you as a candidate to speak without a media filter to voters. And the problem that Bush had, and this affected Gore during the summer, is that when you get behind in the presidential race, the media doesn't report what you said as much as why they think you said what you said. It's an attempt to close the gender gap, or to close the gap scrambling in the polls. JIM LEHRER: In a step clearly taken to do the following, he said... PAUL GIGOT: This allowed Bush to say, look, get my views out. This is what I think on social security, unmediated. MARK SHIELDS: We - following that, we ought to get Al Gore on to explain the petroleum reserve because we've already had Paul say in a clear step that was a transparent and hypocritical... But I have to say... PAUL GIGOT: That's my job, Mark. MARK SHIELDS: I have to say this about the - JIM LEHRER: Hurry because I want to get a couple of comments on Whitewater. MARK SHIELDS: The appearance. This is not to be confused, going on Oprah and Regis with, you know, You Want to be a Millionaire. This wasn't lifeline calls. I mean, those are pretty softball questions you get on there. Tell me what you're most embarrassed about; and do you like mom? Those are not toughies. |
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JIM LEHRER: Yeah. The Whitewater investigation closed this week. Are there any political ramifications to be sorted through? PAUL GIGOT: I don't think so, Jim. Ken Starr signaled to us a year ago that there were not going to be any indictments. Robert Ray confirmed it. I think in the sense the interesting news here is that the report... there's a report that Ray and the special counsel has to file. That will be out -- but it hasn't leaked. And I think that's to Robert Ray's credit because that would have all kinds of... I can tell you that a lot of Republicans JIM LEHRER: Because he was careful even in an interview we did with him the other night. He wasn't giving him a clean -- anybody a clean bill of health. He said there was no crime committed.
JIM LEHRER: But Ray still says it's still possible he may ask a grand jury to indict the president after he leaves office on matters related to Monica Lewinsky. MARK SHIELDS: Yes, Jim, he did say that. But I would say, to underline what Paul... the point that Paul made, and that is that there will be no political bombshell in this area for Al Gore or Hillary Clinton between now and November. And that has to be a major, major cause for relief among Democrats who are concerned about that. JIM LEHRER: Sure, all right. Paul, Mark, thank you both very much. |
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