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Feedback ForumShould America have a universal health care plan?Submissions for this question are no longer being accepted. Previously submitted comments appear below. Comments may have been edited for content or space. Poster: lorraine kanter Comment: We are united as citizens if we truly attend to the basic needs of all. There must be no profit motive in determining the deliverance of health care. Universal health insurance is a must. Poster: Krstmaati Comment: It would be nice. I saw the movie Sicko on Saturday and I left there thinking how nice it would be to live in France. A universal healthcare plan in the US would be great, but like everything else that was supposed to be great for Americans, it would probably become corrupt to the core in little or no time. I feel you can't have such a plan with all the systems that would feed it to make it successful, are so corrupt. Poster: Becky H. Comment: Either the vast majority of American people need to rise up and demand universal healthcare or major employers need to push for it to in order to stay competitive in the global market. The force to keep the status quo that will be launched by the lobbies of the insurance and pharmaceutical industries will be deceptive and massive, not to mention the hospital and physician lobbies if they feel threatened. Poster: T. Stewart Comment: Yes, we need it desperately! I would love to see PBS do a series of shows exposing the money trails between campaign contributions and the legislators' votes on this issue. I'd bet that pharmaceutical corporations and insurance companies have paid lots of money to buy those politicians who keep us in this lose-lose system. I'm working hard to bring clean elections to my state; it's the only way I can see of taking the power away from big money corporations and putting it in the hands of the people. If we want a genuine democracy, we're going to have to make one. Thanks to NOW, we finally know how to go about it. Poster: Lindmuth Fuller Comment: ABSOLUTELY!!!!! What else is there to say? Poster: paul c Comment: Single payer, i.e government The US is over 60 years behind civilised countries. Here its all about profit. Profiteering on people's ailments is the lowest form of greed. That question does not even arise in a humane society. Funding? Same ways as wars are financed. Poster: Laura Comment: Yes, employers are refusing to offer health insurance, more of us are unemployed, and can't afford or may not have the option of cobra. What do we do when we are between jobs or laid off? Poster: Lyn Deuster Comment: Yes, we need Universal Health Care...NOW! And we have to demand it. Poster: Lisa Comment: My sister didn't have health insurance and wasn't able to go to the obstetrician of her choice when she was pregnant with twins. She developed complications during childbirth and died after giving birth to twin girls. We will never know if she would have lived had she had health insurance, but I believe it was a factor in her death. Poster: Oralia Vasquez Comment: I believe that universal health care is a great idea for all Americans. But really it is not the root of the problem. Most people don't realize that how taxes are paid in this country. First we need to move to a progressive tax. The Administration in the White House at this moment is working to only benefit the people who make the most in this country. In the end the people who make less money pay more in taxes because only the first $80,000 of income is taxed for welfare systems. No, welfare systems are not charity, it is the way we work together to provide for each and everyone in this great nation. It is sickening that in the very end those who make over that amount of money in year pay less for their stay in this country. Our system is sorely rotted to the core and that needs to change soon and for good. PROGRESSIVE TAX and UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE are a great start! WE NEED THEM NOW! Poster: Susan Smiley Comment: Yes we need a single payer universal health care system. Health care is a right we need that in this country. I am tired of hearing about old people that have to chose between pills to help them and food that should not be the way it is. I was born in England, my mother who lives there now does not have to pay a penny for her doctor or her medicine. That is the way it should be here. Poster: Diane Jacoby Comment: Allowing people to be without health care or lose homes etc. to continue corporate profit is a violation of human rights. Poster: barbara b. Comment: It is way past time to have universal health care. Just one example: My daughter, at 41, has rheumatoid arthritis; had to quit her job that she had insurance with because the stress was so bad. She has a good job now, but no health insurance and even if she did, it's a pre-existing conditon. A no win situation. My neighbor, 29, single, with two small children, has cancer. She has to save enogh money before she visits her doctor. Our health care system is a prehistoric medical nightmare. Poster: Chuck Garner Comment: Absolutely, but the Republican twisted ideology will never permit it. We're supposed to not need anything from the government, ever, not even social security. To them, there's no such thing as a social contract- that as a member of this society we're obligated to care for children, the sick, and the elderly. Supposedly this administration is what you voted for, using Republican computerized voting machines and if you like it so much, be sure to tell your Representative to vote for HR 811. If not, tell 'em not only to vote no, but hell no! Poster: Dale Phillips Comment: Yes. as an Nurse patient advocate it is way overdue. Poster: Cathy Hazzard Comment: Yes! Michael Moore's film exposes the horrors of being sick and in need of health care in America. My 14 year-old daughter needed anti-nausea drugs that are administered to cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy. State Farm Insurance refused to pay for these drugs. Even after her doctor argued that she would not be able to tolerate the treatments without these drugs they only responded that the chemotherapy drugs were all that they covered. The doctor treated her anyway but the insurance company still would not pay for the drugs. Only after the state of Texas attorney general got involved due to actions of a lawyer in Austin who took my daughter's and many others who had similar cases against State Farm, did the insurance giant have to pay. We settled out of court for three time the amount of unpaid bills. Ironically, we received notice on the same morning our daughter died. State Farm figured that only a small percentage of their policy holders would pursue the denials and calculated the cost of settling with them. It was cheaper to deny coverage and pay later than to pay for the claims as they were billed. According to the Austin attorney, this is business-as-usual for insurance companies. My daughter deserved better. Everyone in this country deserves better. Poster: Matt & Martha Clarke Comment: Be prepared to refute the oppostion's counter attacks all this next year and become active to get what we want. Build alliances via Moveon.com! GET THEIR FLYER AND USE IT! OR GO WITH what ever group is most effective in your area. DO NOT LET this opportunity slide past us! DO NOT ELECT ANYONE FROM NOW ON WHO DOES NOT PLEDGE TO MAKE MEDICARE AND MORE THAN MEDICARE UNIVESAL. MOORE MAKES THE SIMPLE COMMON SENSE CASE FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE COMPELLING! BAVO! Bravo Michael ...........let's roll! Poster: jill harmer Comment: Yes The single payer system surely is the only really universal health progrm thaT will work in the long run because the insurance companies have to satisfy opposing interesets -- the highest buck for their stockholders and highest quality care for their patients. NOW did an excellent interview with Michael Moore but did not mention that Dennis Kucinich is the only presidential candidate that endorses it. Michael Moore suggests looking at www.pnhp.org on his own website. Thank you for another excellent program Poster: Jeanne Kirkpatrick Comment: As a federal retiree from the Justice Dept. (FBI and U.S. Attorney's Offices [back in the good old days]), I can toss the whole boatload of mailings from hawkers of Medicare Parts B (doctors' visits) and D (Rxs) straight into the recyclable circular file and keep my Federal Employees Health Benefits coverage into retirement, because I, along w/every present and former member of Congress, the Judiciary, and plain old ordinary Executive Branch retirees, are the beneficiaries of a single-payer system, otherwise known as the aggregate of U.S. taxpayers. It's just not fair that Congress, acting as the goose, keeps the proceeds of the golden egg all for itself and its kind and doesn't share them w/the gander, the tax-paying public--who, after all, has had a whole lot to do w/the laying of the valuable egg in the first place. Poster: THam Comment: Is it true congress and the president get health coverage from the time they are elected through retirement from office. And its probably good coverage. So what are the rest of us, not worthy? Yes there should be a universal health care. And if congress cannot do it. Take theirs and redistribute the money from them to those that truly need it. Poster: Sharon L. Comment: It is bad when your insurance company manages your medicare, and you can only talk to your insurance company. It seems the insurance company decides what it is going to pay, altho, I still pay a medicare premium and insurance premium. It seems to me this is conflict of interest. I'm sure the insurance company gets something from medicare for doing this and we get screwed. Poster: Richard Comment: This issue defines what the US is more than any other. Yes a single payor universal system is needed. It will take the most monumental effort in US history to overcome the corruption of government by corporate money and power to scrap this immoral, inhuman non-system and do what every other country has realized it must do years ago. Poster: Chris Wisehart Comment: Yes and I have a workable one that beats anything anyone has thought of. See it at http://cwisehart.spaces.live.com/blog/ This is not a joke and will fix everthing. But then what would Moore and his like have to whine about then? Poster: Janice Comment: Thank God for Sylvia and Jim (above)! Yes, there are doctors for every neighborhood in Cuba - but you should see the hospitals! You take your own sheets and food, among other things. Yes, Sweden has universal care, but if they really want something done, they come here. Michael Moore says that health care should be free for all. What is free when the government is involved. Who is the government? We, the taxpayer. What is done efficiently and less costly by the government - the schools? Our infrastructure? I am so sick of listening to Michael Moore being interviewed and saying the same old thing over and over. How about David giving us a chance to hear other views? Poster: Raffi Dorian Comment: Yes, absolutely. Having lived in three European countries, I have had first hand experience with a National Health Care system, it's wonderful and it works! It's the only civilized thing to do. Health care should not be for profit! Thank you to Micheal Moore for a job well done, America needs to wake up, we've been brainwashed for too long. We need to demand Universal health care and hold our politicians accountable. Our federally elected representatives have voted themselves terrific and I believe lifetime health benefits. What is good for them is also good for the rest of us. Vote for single-payer health care! Poster: Comment: I agree with Brita Skarbrevik. Convincing those who represent us in the government is the problem-- especially when our representatives have stock portfolios making millions through investments in pharmaceuticals, insurance, etc. Remind you of our problem in the middle east? Big oil, Big money. Bottom line is they can afford to pay out of their pockets for services, goods, ya ya -- and we can't -- so they don't care. Poster: gail Comment: Yes, Yes,Yes! For years now I've always believed the USA should have Health Care Like other countries. Our leaders in D C waste so much of our tax dollars . And we now have leaders that don't even listen to Public opinion anymore. Stop the War. Use that money to get a Health program started here in the states. Futhermore, Stop handing our $$$ out to other countries til we fix what is wrong at home. Poster: Kali Comment: Absolutely - it's way over due. I lived in British Columbia, Canada 4 years while going to university. Although I am an American, I was covered by Canada's health care while in Canada since I was a living there as a student. But if I were to return home to Illinois during the summer break, I would not have had any health coverage. Therefore, I stayed in Canada during the summer. While living there, the only complaints I heard from Canadians were, in my opinion, relatively minor. Poster: Michael Emerson Comment: Yes we should have Universal health care. Its our duty to help out every human to be healthy. I do not understand this country that says its a Christian nation and does not want to have a universal health care plan. Where does it say in the bible that we are to not help out people who are suffering. I thought Jesus told us to help people out not turn your back on them. Poster: beth lancaster Comment: Politicians running for president shouldn't be taking money from health care companies. they should be going to places like canada and meeting with directors of hospitals and the government about how they changed to socialized medicine for their entire country. come up with a similar plan of how to start the change in this country and introduce it to the u.s citizens, as a part of their campaign. I work two jobs and have no insurance. I only qualify for district clinic, health care for indigenous people of the panhandle. Which if you have something seriously wrong, you might as well walk to the cemetery. Poster: Beth Ukleja Comment: We're long past due for Universal Healthcare. When are we going to get a President who dares to take the first steps in accomplishing this much needed societal demand? Poster: Charles Conrad Comment: Yes, we need real health care. Years ago, Hilery Clinton took on yh Health Care Industry and she lost. They were too powerful. Poster: Leonard Rebello Comment: Universal healthcare (government controlled) is a must for ALL American citizens. Poster: Mike Whelan Comment: I am Canadian. Our system has its problems yet we still recieve a very high standard of health care. Our taxes are certainly higher yet for those higher taxes with have a stable society free of ghettos and a sense of fairness that, for richer or poorer, we will receive the same quality medical treatment. None shall have to fear financial ruin because of unexpected medical issues. Poster: tamara l Comment: Yes, definitely I think the United States should have universal healthcare for every legal American that lives here! For the first time in my life I do not have any medical health coverage. I am in the low income category, work a full time job, a single mom and am pretty healthy. So I had to choose between buying food and paying my bills or paying $160 a month to have 70% coverage by an insurance company. This year I chose not to have the insurance. I have only had to go to the hospital once for kidney stones. It was $159.00 bill I am still paying on. I can't wait to see Michael's movie because I am so outraged that no one is doing anything about this problem in the good ol USA. Maybe Michael can start a revolution with the US population that would force the government to put together a plan that would benefit all Americans and as soon as possible so the single mothers of America do not have to choose which bill to pay. Poster: Jennifer Halligan Comment: The United States government should be so ashamed of itself that there is no universal health care this country. Poster: Lisa Smith Comment: Perhaps it is time to re-evaluate the idea of medical service being a business with profit motives driving basic care. It no longer works under this framework in any kind of fair way so it is time to decide about it being basic service for all ages as is access to clean water or to a basic education. Poster: selma goldberg Comment: Universal health care coverage is long overdue. I have been an advocate since 1947. We need to eliminate the insurance industry from any plan and have a federally sponsored plan which covers everyone. Poster: Bill Sharpless Comment: Assuming the premise that the free “Market” is capable of delivering the best solutions for everything; one must question the validity of this premise when 40 million plus Americans do not have health insurance. The problem is not the premise, but that we have allowed the insurance companies to define the “market “for delivering healthcare. The system is based on treating illnesses and the insurance company as the intermediary takes our money and decides what we get in turn. What a market we have here! Just what do they do to earn their money? I cannot find any “added value” provided by an insurance company. If they were helping to keep us healthy, the 20-25% of our healthcare dollar we pay them might be justified. This is not the case as the Insurance company makes money by focusing their employees on the denial of services or at best restricting service thus hindering a wellness mission. Redefining healthcare provision in a “market” that benefits the consumer would require an insurance company to contract with us for “cradle to grave” coverage. A market that says, “ keep us healthy and you will make lots of money” . Refocusing resources on prevention provides the reward in not having to spend it on treating illness. In this competitive environment, if they do a bad job of keeping us healthy their bottom line suffers. The solvency of this model would need to be insured by the US government as we could not trust most corporations driven by the Wall Street dictate of quarterly profits, to work in an ethical manner over the course of an insured citizen’s life span. And to insure an efficient market, a re-engineered Medicare as a single payer model should be used as an option of choice for all citizens. Research financed by our tax dollars and apportioned by the NIH should be redirected to this wellness effort and available to all parties. All generic data collected should be available to all parties insuring a market place for good ideas resulting in an evolution in standards of care and providing all Americans a chance at improving their quality of life, cradle to grave. Poster: michael S. Comment: The only equitable system is single payer, i.e., government controlled, as in Canada and Scandinavia. Poster: Brita Skarbrevik Comment: Absolutely, we have Medicare which IS a universal health care plan and most seniors are thrilled to have it. So why is the idea so frightening to most Americans? For most Americans affordable health care is only available through a job and even then is not always affordable. This is a burden that employers should not have. Self-employed and unemployed are left to flounder on their own. Insurance companies cherry pick only the healthiest individuals. Those left over end up on Medicaid or with huge debts when they can the least afford to pay for medical services. Which means we, the taxpayers, pay anyway whether it's as welfare or other subsidized services. Poster: Joyce Weber Comment: It is long past time that we join the more advanced countries of the world and have a universal health care system. How can we proclaim to be the super power of the world and lag behind with our health care? Poster: Jim Comment: Absolutely not. There's more horror stories there than here Poster: Sylvia Comment: Only if we as nation are willing to endure a massive Federal tax increase to fund it and thereby relinquish all privacy between patients and providers and whatever little control and responsibility we as consumers have over yet another broken system in this country. I neither beleve nor think that taxpayers and voters (of whom there are precious few) are yet ready for this. Poster: lois Comment: Who would say no to the question? A Medical or insurance professional? Poster: Forrest Eggleston, MD Comment: In this great land of ours, no one should not be able to get the medical care they need. Frankly, I think it must be a right. Our present system needs major simprovement. The poor need it more than the rich, yet oftgen cannot afford it. Poster: Daniel Cring Comment: My younger brother (age 49 years) died from kidney cancer last year because he didn't have health insurance. He had a tough time even getting into a clinical trial without health insurance. late diagnosis= early death. Poster: Clark Bowlen Comment: We don't need the middle man of health insurance companies. The role of the private sector is 1.) in providing the care, and 2.) in overseeing the government whose funds pay for that care. Poster: Phyllis Reiche Comment: It's unfortunate that our congress has been able to avoid creating a universal health care system when all other nations in the first world manage to make them work, usually better than our system works, while we spend much more money and have a lower quality of care. Drug companies certainly bear a lot of responsibility, as do groups like the AMA. But ultimately the congress and the president should be held accountable for the mess we are living with. Poster: William Schultz Comment: Now is the time to attack Dick Cheney's position that he is not a part of the Executive Branch by going after all of his documentation on his 2000 energy cabal meetings! With a FASCIST court & White House, America is in worse peril today than in Dec. 1941. The true anti-americans are CHeney & Bush! Poster: Jill Versace Comment: Yes. We need a single-payer universal health care plan for all Americans. Poster: Gary Young MD Comment: Yes a system based upon Medicare for everyone would be easiest and farest to adopt - patients without insurance would have access to doctors which would cost more in the short term but in the long term actually cost less money because doing nothing does not make the problem go away, only more expensive. Gary Young MD Poster: Fred Yontz Comment: Health care availability and affordability is one of the major problems for the nation, more consequential than immigration reform and more long-reaching than ending the war in Iraq. Dumping the health care burden on employers makes them uncompetitive with foreign companies, who don't carry that cost, and leaves the unemployed and underemployed reliant on highest-cost emergency room care, which amounts to the least cost-effective provision of health care, if provided at all. Health care should be a universal national right, just as with police and other security protections, and separated from all the private entities that serve to suck money out of the system to pad profits and executive salaries and bonuses, such as insurance companies, that don't directly provide health care but just shuffle the money around. Cleaning up our deplorable health care system is much more important, and will be rather more difficult, than fixing our dysfunctional immigration system, but the costs of not doing so will be widespread and ever more severe. Poster: Momz Comment: Should America have a universal health care plan? Is the Pope Catholic? Poster: Laura McIlhennon Comment: Absolutely the U.S. should have a universal health care plan. I've been chronically ill for the last 48 years (since I was 4) and the cost of my health insurance is almost 1/4th of my monthly income. In fact my premuims just went up $66 a month starting in July. I lived in the UK from 1982 to 1990 and it was the first time in my life I've never had to worry about health care. I received excellent care and the fact I wasn't stressed about seeking medical care actually improved my health. Unfortunately when I moved back to this country I went 13 years without insurance and consequently didn't receive good health care. This has done irreparable damage to my body and it should never have happened. Even with health insurance now, its still cheaper for me to go to Canada and get some of my prescription medicines. How much longer are we going to let this situation continue? Poster: Hans Schaublin Comment: If we want to call ourselves a civilized nation, we must have a universal one-payer system, PERIOD. Poster: Michael Bailey Comment: Yes, of course we should have universal health care. But, I'm afraid americans are too brainwashed to make sure we get it. What's more important in america ? Health or money ? We're a bunch of idiots. Poster: K. giltin Comment: YES Poster: Gary Isaac Comment: Single payer universal health care coverage is the way to go. Private insurance companies have no business in health care. Poster: Patricia M. O'Day-Senior Comment: America should have Universal, Single Payer, NOT FOR PROFIT, (i.e, no insurance companies involved or making profits)Health Care ! Pres. Candidate Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate with plans for this health care in which EVERY American is covered. Health care is a human right! Poster: Ruth S. Eckhouse Comment: Universal Health Care is absolutely essential. There are, I believe 45,000,000 people without any insurance and 9,000,000 children for whom there is no medical care. And then we have people with millions and billions of $$$s who should give up some of their loot and help those who really need it. Poster: larry Courtright Comment: When we find out that the US is 37th in the world for adequate medical services and the nation being the richest in the world it is obvious that the present medical system is not effective because it is based on profit and not the medical needs and care of our people. Consequently a universal health care plan must be set up so that all of us will have proper medical services based on care and not private profit Poster: Kate vanHorn Comment: I am 85 years old. I have had many horrific medical experiences. One doctor, upon learning that I am an atheist, told me to go home and take two aspirins. A neurologist wrongly diagnosed me with Parkinson's. Another doctor prescribed a pill that caused severe swelling and pains from hip to toes. I had to discover the cause and effect years later. Recently my GP moved from a group practice to start an individual practice. It was months later that he informed me. I did not know I was in medical limbo. If we change the broken system, I hope the individual practitioners will be more responsible. They may cause as much suffering as nature provides. Poster: Emmanuel Krasner Comment: This is a no brainer. We should have a universal health care plan. But we have to be clear the it will be a not for profit, program that provides for everyone, like the rest of the industrialized world has. The universal plan should eliminate the middlemen. It should be a single payer, government funded program that provides for all the people. Poster: pat frisella Comment: Yes absolutely. It is very sad to see access in our country to things like education and health care be increasingly available only to those who can afford it. We are not breaking new ground if we adopt a more civilized system such as the one in Canada or the UK or France. There will bumps in the road, but if we make the commitment to universal, not-for-profit health care, now, not only will everyone have access, some of the strains in the economy will also improve - unions will not be asked for give backs because companies are overwhelmed by skyrocketing insurance premiums, more money in the education system will go to education because insurance will not be an issue for teachers, etc, etc. Time for a change! Poster: Maurine Comment: Absolutely. Medicare for all should be our goal. Poster: Chad Raschke Comment: I do believe that America should have a universal health care plan, and here is why. First of all, it is a travesty when we have millions of people, especially children, who do not have access to health care. For most families without insurance, the only time they visit the doctor is when illness or injury has already befallen them. That does not make much sense. It would be more cost effective for them to be able to go to a doctor for preventive care. Another reason for universal health care is that it would save businesses millions a year, which they would then be able to either put back into the business or increase the wages of the employees thus giving everyone a boost. That would make more economic sense. Finally, we are the only industrialized country that does not offer it's citizens some form of health care benefit. In closing, if the government were to take over as the health care provider, it might be cumbersome at first. We might even need to increase taxes to pay for it. However, in the end, it will save money, save lives, and save this country. Poster: Sara W. Baker Comment: The U.S. needs a universal health care plan---SOON! Poster: Shirley Comment: Most other countries have univesral health care, we are paying too much for coverage. Poster: David Heywood Comment: I am a retired physician and you may not believe this, but I have been for universal health care since I was in college. This was obviously before I was even in medical school. Too many Americans---45 million or more---have no health insurance. For many of those who do have insurance the cost is too high, and many studies show that the level of care in the USA is significantly behind that of most other countries in the developed world. Poster: edie groner Comment: If Cuba can afford to have health universal care for its citizens than why can't we? Cut the tax breaks to the richest of Americans and we can afford universal health insurance by our government. Poster: Comment: YES YES YES YES ITS WAY OVER DUE Poster: Dross Comment: We can't compete against other countries that have universal health care when you don't! If America thinks their so good t han why not do universal health care better?huh! Poster: Wendi Chen Comment: Yes. Universal care can reduce the cost of the care and make the US a humane society, which cares for its citizens' wellbeing, not taking advantage of the sick and poor to make profit. The current system is cruel to the sick and poor, it's wasteful, and it's cumbersome, and it encourages bad elements of the society. Health care is not a business for profits; it is a social service for all citizens. Poster: Jerry Newsom Comment: My firefighter cousin from Texas was forced to reitre after he came down with cancer, losing both his health insurance AND his life insurance!! His wife lost their home after he died !!!This is UNACCEPTABLE!! We are demanding UNIVERSAL, SINGLE PAYER......NO INSURANCE COMPANIES INVOLVED!! Poster: C. Sever Comment: The U.S. needs to have a non-profit, single payer, national health care plan for all its people. Poster: Doni McMillan Comment: Absolutely YES. I belong to a labor union, local 16 IATSE. We have a self insured health plan, we pay in through employer contributions and we use the money to pay for our health care. We use only 4% to pay for administrative costs. What do hmo's and for sale health plans cost, I believe it is somewhere around 25% and more. My plan does not pay for costly executives, marketing, or to shareholders. Unfortunately, to keep this health plan we have had minimal pay increases, due to asking our employers to contribute a higher percentage to our health plan. This ultimately can't continue working, given the increased costs of living. We need universal healthcare so that we all can have healthcare. It is not a privelage or a perk, it is a basic human right. Unfortunately we need to take the profit margin out of health care. We have gotten too gready. Take this as an example of how off balance the system is. We pay more for health care each year in our plan, but we also invest money from our union pension plan, who invests some of its money with medical companies and pharmacuticals, because they have a high rate of return. Oops, there's something wrong there. Poster: Steve Clawges Comment: Yes, we should have Universal Healthcare because our veterans, our elected officials and our seniors have it. Illegal aliens even have it. In Pennsylvania, we have state run health care for children of low income families and it is wonderful! It even pays for open heart surgery for children at no cost to the family of the patient. America does not have to rank behind Costa Rica in health care and it is an outrage that we are not at or near the top. |
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