MAKING THE FILM:
AN INTERVIEW WITH AARON MATTHEWS
Discover why Aaron Matthews chose to take us into the Ortiz family's lives.
"For the last 30 years Dominicans have been the largest and fastest
growing immigrant group in New York City and there are actually no films
about the Dominican American experience.
MY AMERICAN GIRLS is a story about the Ortiz family, a Dominican immigrant
family, living in Sunset Park, Brooklyn. The family consists of Sandra
and Bautista, who are the mother and father, and three daughters. Mayra
is 14, Aida is 16 and Monica is 21 and each daughter is kind of going
in a different direction. A lot of people say, once they have seen the
film that they really feel like they have had intimate contact with a
world, with a family that they would never have had before and that's
special, you know. It's like going somewhere where you would never, that
you wouldn't have gone otherwise and, so, one of the benefits of just
focusing on the family and their relationships is that you really get
to know them well and you began to extrapolate from that what are larger
things that are universal from this, what else do I have to learn from
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P.O.V.: How did you meet the Ortiz family?
Aaron Matthews (AM): I met Sandra and the Ortiz family over 20
years ago when Sandra worked for my parents as a housekeeper. Our families
have remained close ever since.
P.O.V.: What interested you in their story?
AM: I just felt that, as a family, the Ortizes encompassed a great
deal that might speak to the general public. Originally, I figured I would
just do a 10-minute portrait on Sandra, about how she came to this country
with no money and no English. The film would cover how and why she came
and what her life was like in those early years compared to the way it
was now. I also thought the film could focus on her dilemma of leading
a double existence, living between the world of the Dominican Republic
and New York. Sandra is an amazing person and a great character but, most
of all, she's always been the kind of person who I enjoyed spending time
with, so I hoped others would feel the same way.
Then gradually, the more I hung out with Sandra, the more I realized
that her daughters, Mayra, Aida and Monica, were each having different
experiences as first-generation Dominican-American immigrants and that
there was a rich story there as well. So it all just evolved. That's what
is so exhilarating about making documentary film. It's constantly changing
and what you start out with is guaranteed to be different from the final
product.
P.O.V.: Your film presents the perspectives of both the mother and
the girls why this focus or structure?
AM: A
short while after I started this project it became clear that the larger
story existed in the stories of Mayra, Aida and Monica, and their individual
Dominican-American experiences versus their parents' experiences in this
country. It was interesting how each of the daughters
was going in a very different direction. Mayra, the youngest is a self-proclaimed
ghetto kid, and struggles with school she likes to hang out. Monica,
the oldest, recently graduated from one of the best universities in the
country and she's a real success story. And Aida is, as she says, the
typical middle child, literally and figuratively. She's very much trying
to make her way between her two sisters the world of the street
and middle class American values.
The three paths that the girls have to choose from represent choices
and decisions that we are all faced with in some way or another. By looking
at the experiences of the girls in relation to their mother complex, universal
issues get raised: the value of education, the role of women in this country,
the issue of balancing work and family and the costs and gains of fulfilling
your dreams.
P.O.V.: What drew you to the subject?
AM: Characters always draw my attention before any issues do. In
this case, it was the entire Ortiz family. Good characters deliver the
issues and themes that make the movie come alive. It would be difficult
for me to make a movie based merely on an interesting 'message,' whereas
if you start with an interesting character the rest takes shape.
P.O.V.: There wasn't much in the way of interviews with the father
why?
AM: Bautista plays a very important role in the Ortiz family. He's
hardworking and loyal, and he loves his children. In the film, he's the
one who's most focused on building their house in Dominican Republic,
so he ends up highlighting the desire among Dominicans in this country
to return home. In addition, all family dynamics are different. In the
Ortiz family, as in many American families, the mother takes a more active
role in the children's lives than the father does. And since so much of
the film revolved around Mayra, Aida and Monica, there ended up being
more scenes that involved Sandra with the three girls.
P.O.V.: I understand that you lived with the family while making this
documentary can you tell us what that was like?
AM: Living with the Ortizes a family I knew long before
filming ever began underscored for me how much you never really
know people until you have to walk in their shoes. I've made documentary
films before, but never had I followed subjects with the intensity and
duration that I did in making MY AMERICAN GIRLS. You learn so much about
people just by sitting around, being patient and waiting for scenes to
unfold. And when Aida says "our house is like a hotel for the Dominican
Republic," she's not kidding.
One of the overwhelming impressions I had of staying at the Ortizes,
for extended amounts of time, was how many people come in and out of there
all day long. At certain points, I would turn to Mayra or Aida or whoever
was near and ask them who that guy who just came in the door was and more
often than not they would just shrug their shoulders and say "Absolutely
no idea." Everyone's welcome in the Ortiz home be they distant relative
or friend of a friend. As I think you can tell in the film, they are very
open, big-hearted, generous people, so I always felt welcome there. Also,
Sandra is a great cook and she makes the best arroz con pollo y platanos
north of the Caribbean. I have to admit that kept me hanging around the
house longer than I might have there were plenty of kitchen scenes
in the outtakes.
P.O.V.: As a filmmaker, what were you exploring?
AM: The immigrant story is one that I've always been interested
in. The idea that people just pick up and leave their native lands and
come to a strange country with next to nothing in their pockets searching
for a new life is endlessly fascinating to me. Especially as a New Yorker
in a city that has a greater than 50 percent immigrant population, I find
this story to be one that's constantly stimulating and enriching me. But
also as an American we're all immigrants (some more recent than
others) or the children of immigrants in this country and, therefore,
it's a story that forms the very fabric of who we are. The
immigrant question is still an important one for this country. And it
is complex, diverse and still needs to be explored.
I wanted to explore what made the Dominican immigrant different from others. There are times when the Ortiz family will visit the Dominican Republic two or three times a year, and that sets them apart from previous immigrants to this country in a big way. Even today, a great number of immigrants leave their country never to return again. But, in part because of the proximity of the Dominican Republic to the United States, many Dominicans never leave their country entirely. And yet that creates a real tension, especially for the children of Dominican immigrants here in America. The family is still closely connected to DR but they've established roots in New York. And in a larger sense, we all have to deal with the questions that are raised by that dilemma: Who am I? Where do I belong and where do I fit in?
The contrast between who the Ortizes are in the U.S. and who they are in the Dominican Republic is related to this issue. Sandra and Bautista play two distinct roles and they do it simultaneously. There's a scene in the film where Sandra goes shopping for her family in the Dominican Republic. The bulk of what she ends up bringing down to friends and family is very basic. She's delivering bags of rice and beans for the poor people in her old neighborhood. She packs up placemats and shower curtains to bring to her parents. It's a strange twist because, here in the U.S., Sandra and Bautista are relatively low on the income ladder they're both janitors in hospitals and when they go back to the Dominican Republic they're handing out food and necessities to the town's people.
P.O.V.: What do you hope to achieve by making this film?
AM: Dominicans have been New York's largest and fastest growing immigrant group for the last 30 years. Yet there are few films that document the Dominican-American immigrant experience and there has never been a film that chronicles the story of a Dominican family over a long period of time. They are an under-served community. I can't tell you how many New Yorkers, as I was making this film, asked me questions like, "Wait a minute, aren't Dominicans like the same thing as Puerto Ricans?" or, "What part of Mexico is the Dominican Republic in again?" and, "Aren't Dominicans like a religious order?." According to the latest census figures, Latinos are the fastest growing immigrant group in the US and they are also now the largest minority group in this country.
Dominicans
and Latinos are a huge part of what this country is and will be in the
future. As a result, there's a real need just to create general awareness
about Latino issues. When there is limited media concerning
groups of people, in the eyes of many, they remain invisible. So one of
the big hopes with MY AMERICAN GIRLS was that the film would tell a story
that all families in this country would be able to relate to and therefore
open up much needed dialogue.
P.O.V.: Any interesting or funny stories related to the making of this film?
AM: The Ortizes are lively and fun, so each day filming was never
like the one before. One of the funny situations that happened in the
beginning involved Sandra. At the outset of the project, Sandra couldn't
understand why I would want to make a documentary film about her. In fact,
her daughter, Monica later told me that Sandra initially thought that
I was filming her so that some actress down the line would be able to
portray the role of 'Sandra' in a made-for-TV movie about a Dominican
family in Brooklyn. So, on the first 10 hours of videotape there's a lot
of footage of me trying to convince Sandra that "Yes, this right here
is what I'm going to make the film from." It was also hard to get Sandra
to ignore my presence. You can often hear my voice behind the camera saying
something like "OK, just pretend I'm not here. Now just act naturally....,"
and Sandra would turn to me, look directly into the lens, and say, "Sure,
sure. We can do this later. Have you eaten breakfast yet? How about some
coffee?"