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"Chimps
R Us"
SHOW 1108
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CHIMPS
OBSERVED
CHIMP
NATIONS
CHIMPS
GETTING ALONG
CHIMP
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CHIMPS
UNDER THE GUN
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ALAN ALDA Chimpanzees are very much like us. In fact
scientists say they're 98% the same. On this edition
of Scientific American Frontiers, we're exploring how
chimpanzees see the world.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) We'll meet the legendary Jane
Goodall, the first to really understand chimps.
JANE GOODALL Woo... woo
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) We'll report on the terrible
bushmeat trade, the greatest threat to chimpanzees.
We'll see how different chimp groups have their own
traditions, just like people. And we'll take a look
inside chimp minds, to find out how they think.
ALAN ALDA I'm Alan Alda. Join me and our closest cousins
on Chimps R Us.
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CHIMPS OBSERVED
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) If you don't think this looks
like chimp habitat, you'd be right. We're in Tucson,
Arizona, at a reception celebrating the world's longest
running wildlife study. Forty years ago, Jane Goodall
began a revolution in our view of chimpanzees.
MAN Before her work, people didn't consider that chimpanzees
might have, first of all, a mind, that they might be
emotional animals, that they might have intelligence.
And she has revealed to the world just how complex chimpanzee
society is.
WOMAN I think that it's very very important for Jane
to take what she has come to know in her bones and her
blood by spending her lifetime with chimpanzees and
helping the rest of the world to recognize that.
WOMAN #2 They are disappearing at an alarming rate
and it would be very very sad for our children and grandchildren
not to have the opportunity to know that these creatures
are out there in the world.
WOMAN #3 When you look at a chimpanzee, you don't just
see an animal, you actually see an individual. Have
you looked into the eyes of a chimpanzee?
JANICE Tonight, I'm delighted and privileged to introduce
to you this woman who has so profoundly changed the
world. Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Jane Goodall.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Later, at a public lecture, Jane
Goodall introduced herself in a language she learned
long ago and far away.
JANE GOODALL ...and good evening ladies and gentlemen.
I want to start off with a chimpanzee greeting, the
distance call, just to say hello in a language that
I love. Oop... oop... So if we can have the lights off,
including the one on me, please. Right, thanks.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Jane Goodall started observing
chimps in the wild in 1960, when she was 26. She had
no experience, and no formal qualifications. But with
persistence, good luck, a lot of patience, and above
all an open mind, she was able to enter the hitherto
secret world of our closest cousins. In 1986, alarmed
at the drastic decline in chimpanzee numbers, she decided
she had to give something back to her primate friends,
and turn her attention to conservation. Now she spends
almost all her time on the road, lecturing and speaking
out on behalf of chimps. Tucson was where I caught up
with her.
ALAN ALDA I asked my 8-year-old granddaughter what
she'd like to ask you, and she said, "Can she speak
their language?"
JANE GOODALL Oh... oh.
ALAN ALDA Ha! Great!
JANE GOODALL You know what that means?
ALAN ALDA No. I hope it means something we can do on
television.
JANE GOODALL Guess. Oh... oh.
ALAN ALDA What's that?
JANE GOODALL If I have a big pile of fruit and you
come up to me and I go "oh, oh"... go away!
ALAN ALDA Oh, go away.
JANE GOODALL Yes.
ALAN ALDA Oh, oh. Say it again.
JANE GOODALL Coh coh.
ALAN ALDA Oh, oh.
JANE GOODALL Yes, and…
ALAN ALDA And they make that gesture like this?
JANE GOODALL Just like that.
ALAN ALDA Like that. It's a "go away" gesture, isn't
it?
JANE GOODALL Okay. Now supposing you have a big pile
of fruit and you're guzzling it, and I'm younger than
you are and less, and I'm subordinate to you, and I
come up to you and I go "ooh ooh ooh ooh…"
ALAN ALDA Pretty clear.
JANE GOODALL Pretty clear, isn't it? In fact, the postures
and gestures: embracing, kissing, patting on the back,
swaggering, tickling -- these things we see in human
cultures around the world. In chimps they appear in
the same context, and they clearly mean the same kind
of thing.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) It was domestic hens that were
to provide the first indication of Jane Goodall's tremendous
talent for observing animals. At age 4, growing up in
England, she just couldn't figure out how chickens laid
eggs.
JANE GOODALL There's the egg. So where was the hole
big enough for the egg to come out? Apparently I was
asking everyone, because I looked and I looked and I
couldn't see a hole that big. You won't, either.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) It was obvious to Jane what she
had to do - witness an egg being laid, which in this
case took place in small hen houses. So the next step
was to climb inside a hen house.
JANE GOODALL What's amazing, looking back, is seeing
this little scientist in the making. The question I
was asking, I didn't get the answer. Find out for myself.
Climb up after her, she flies out frightened -- well
then the other hens will be frightened of this place.
Well I knew that. And so I climbed into an empty one,
and waited. And I waited, apparently, at least four
hours, if not more. My family called the police because
they didn't know where I was. And dusk was just falling
and I was rushing back towards the house all covered
in straw, and my mother saw me. But instead of being
mad at me and reprimanding me, which would have killed
the excitement, she saw my shining eyes and she sat
down to hear this wonderful story. When I was around
ten, towards the end of World War II, I found Tarzan
of the Apes, the books, and I fell passionately in love.
Tarzan, Lord of the Jungle. I was incredibly jealous
of that wimpy Jane of his. And I thought I would've
been a much better mate for Tarzan -- which I would
have been.
ALAN ALDA Yes.
JANE GOODALL Yeah.
ALAN ALDA Think of what he could have accomplished.
JANE GOODALL Exactly. And, so, that was when I dreamed
that when I would grew up I would go to Africa, I would
live with animals, and I would write books about them.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Jane saved up enough to visit
a friend in East Africa, where she got a job assisting
in Louis Leakey's fossil-hunting excavations at Olduvai
Gorge, in Tanzania. The famous paleontologist was impressed
by Jane's knowledge of animals. So to gain insight into
human evolution, he suggested Jane study chimpanzee
behavior. Leakey knew just the place, the remote Gombe
Stream Reserve, on the eastern edge of the chimpanzee's
home range -- the belt of equatorial rainforest which
is now fragmented, but once stretched across Africa.
After much fussing by the British colonial authorities
about the idea of sending a young lady out alone into
the bush, Jane started work - chaperoned by her ever-supportive
mother. The only problem was the chimps. They were there
all right, but they had no interest in being studied.
JANE GOODALL I couldn't get near them until one, never
to be forgotten day, I was walking through long wet
grass after a very frustrating morning. And through
the vegetation I saw this dark shape squatting on this
golden-colored termite mound. I was peering and peering
and I saw -- he had his back to me -- he was picking
pieces of grass and clearly poking them at the termite...
but I couldn't quite see and I didn't dare move, and
he's obviously picking something off. And I saw him
reach out and pick a twig and strip the leaves. And
that was so exciting because we used to think we were
the only creatures on the planet who used and made tools.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) We now know that chimps use tools
all the time, but it's hard to overstate the impact
of that first observation. It meant that chimps and
humans must have inherited tool use from our common
ancestor, before our evolution divided 6 million years
ago. Suddenly, we and our cousins seemed much closer.
Then just one month later came another breakthrough.
Jane saw chimps eating meat, and soon after observed
them hunting monkeys. Again it's been seen many times
since, but here for the second time was this young unknown
turning the academic world upside down - something she
would continue to do with regularity.
ALAN ALDA I get the impression you saw things as they
really were, instead of through the prism of the stereotypes
that were prevalent at the time. Everybody said they
didn't make tools but you saw them. Over decades you
saw things as they really were. Why? What was the difference
between what you did and what other people have done?
JANE GOODALL Well, I think Louis Leakey deliberately
picked someone who had not been to university, because
he felt he wanted an unbiased mind. And so, you know,
when he did get me into Cambridge to do a Ph.D. after
a whole year in the field, I found when I got there,
that I shouldn't have named the chimps, I should've
given them numbers. I shouldn't be describing their
personalities because only humans have those. And when
I started talking about the mind and rational thought
in chimps, that was an absolutely shocking thing to
do, that was only humans who had rational minds. And
then finally, the worst anthropomorphic sin of all,
to give them, ascribe to them human-like emotions like
happiness, sadness, feeling despair.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Because she followed individual
chimp families, generation after generation, Jane made
important discoveries about motherhood. Mothers who
are protective, tolerant and supportive raise relaxed
successful kids, who'll pass on those qualities to their
kids. Mothers who are harsh and intolerant raise less
successful kids. Child psychologists soon realized this
insight applies to humans, too - another way in which
we resemble our primate ancestors.
JANE GOODALL Children are so often not being treated
in the way that the primate has been conditioned to
be treated through these thousands of years of evolution.
And is the early lack of good experience in so many
children whose parents are dysfunctional, who go to
bad daycare, is that contributing to some of the violence
and dysfunctional behavior that we see in adolescents
today? I believe so, and more and more people do believe
so.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) In 1974, war broke out at Gombe.
It was another big discovery. A few chimps who had split
off from the main group were systematically annihilated,
over a 4-year period. The main group would send out
patrols to locate and hunt down the renegades, and kidnap
any young females.
ALAN ALDA So do you think that was the motivation for
the warfare, to recruit adolescent females? Or was it
to get territory? Or was it just pure hatred? Hatred
of the strange?
JANE GOODALL The patrols that are regularly made around
the territory I think are partly to recruit adolescents,
partly if they can to enlarge their territory for their
own females and young at the expense of a weaker neighbor.
But the attacks seemed to be motivated by some kind
of xenophobia, a sort of hatred of strangers. But when
I first published these intercommunity attacks a lot
of scientists criticized me. The argument was that if
this was published then people would seize on that as
evidence that we humans are innately aggressive, and
therefore war is inevitable.
ALAN ALDA And therefore, we should avoid knowing the
truth because it might be politically inconvenient.
JANE GOODALL Right. That's exactly how it was. And
you see, I think the point here is that I do believe
we have inherited aggressive tendencies from our very
ancient primate past, just as the chimps have. But so
too, have we inherited tendencies for love, compassion
and altruism. And with our sophisticated minds we are
capable of pushing which of these two inherited traits
we want to follow.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) There's now a permanent study
center at Gombe. Jane gets back there maybe a couple
of times a year. Gombe, now a national park, is only
30 square miles -- sheltering just 150 chimps -- entirely
surrounded by new farm land. Right across equatorial
Africa, where perhaps a million chimps lived a hundred
years ago, development is racing ahead. Following in
its wake has come a terrible new trade in wild animals,
for human consumption. The bushmeat trade, vast and
unprecedented, is cleaning out the forests, chimps included.
They're now down to about 150,000. The world's wildlife
scientists, including Jane Goodall, are saying something
has to be done about bushmeat. We'll have a story on
the problem later in the program. But first we're going
to look at the latest, exciting discoveries primatologists
have made about chimps. It seems they have their own
traditions, like people. Don't go away.
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CHIMP NATIONS
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) In the rainforests of Africa,
one thing happens pretty frequently - it rains. And
when the rain starts, adult male chimps go a little
crazy, charging around, pulling at vegetation and hooting.
When Jane Goodall first saw this at Gombe, she called
it the Rain Dance. We don't know why they do this, but
we do know that it happens at all 6 sites where chimps
have now been intensively studied - except one. Chimps
do not do the rain dance at Bossou, in Guinea in West
Africa. In fact, chimp researchers have found 39 different
behavior patterns that exist in some places, but not
others. Take hand-clasp grooming, for example, in which
two chimps clasp hands above their heads while grooming.
This happens at only three of the six sites - here at
Kibale Forest, Uganda, but not 300 miles south at Gombe
in Tanzania, where there's still grooming -- but with
arms held firmly down. Then less than a hundred miles
further south, at Mahale, Tanzania, up go the arms again.
In the Tai Forest and at Bossou, chimps are especially
skilled at using hammers, like rocks or logs, to crack
several kinds of nuts. But at two other sites, where
there are plenty of nuts, hammers are not used - which
seems a shame, since the nuts are clearly delicious.
One behavior that's unique to the Tai Forest is this
- using sticks to fish the marrow out of the bones of
monkeys that have been hunted, even though chimps hunt
monkeys everywhere.
JANE GOODALL There are different tool using behaviors,
everywhere where chimps have been observed. And, you
know, I like to think of these as primitive cultures.
And what's fascinating here is that obviously at some
point one chimpanzee in that population was the first
to do something, because they're not born termite fishing
and so forth. And then the others, if it's adaptive,
will imitate and so it becomes a part of their behavioral
tradition.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Chimps passing traditions, or
cultures, through the generations makes them, once again,
a lot like people. It also means that young chimps have
to be good at learning, otherwise distinctive traditions
like hammering nuts, or special ways to groom, would
just die out. How animals learn is a fascinating and
controversial subject, because it can provide a window
into their minds.
ALAN ALDA When they observe another chimp using the
tool set, do you believe that they have the idea that
if they use that tool in that way they'll get a certain
result? Are they thinking ahead in that way or are they
just mimicking the use of the tool, and then find out
later that it has this payoff?
JANE GOODALL It depends how old they are. I think the
infants, you know, they first begin they show little
bits of tool using behavior as they're watching their
mothers or their siblings and they discover later. In
fact, we saw one infant, she's doing her very first
attempts to fish for termites. And you're suppose to
have a little stem about that big, at least and she's
using something this big, and it happens to be a termite
heap that's really very productive. So when she's got
her little twig, and she's about two years old, she
gets it down and this large soldier termite--you know,
they're about that big -- and she looks at it, and she
hands it to her mother. And her mother doesn't take
the tool, she picks the ant off and eats it. And the
little one goes on fishing, and she gets another ant
and she looks at it, and she goes like this (chewing
noise) and rushes away from the heap and she goes (chewing).
It's so funny.
ALAN ALDA She has the same tastes I do about termites.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Wild chimps obviously learn by
observation, but here at a chimp sanctuary in Florida,
they aim to find out how much chimps understand when
they learn. You can't figure that out from watching
in the wild, because it takes controlled experiments.
TINA OK Grub, Grubby…
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) The six animals here made cute
pets or performers as infants. Then they became big,
strong, and unwanted. Jane Goodall believes sanctuaries
like this are essential, where discarded chimps can
live the social and active lives that their minds deserve.
But their presence here provides an opportunity for
a psychologist from Florida Atlantic University, David
Bjorklund.
DAVID BJORKLUND These chimpanzees in particular have
a different rearing history than wild chimpanzees. One
fascinating thing about them is from early on, the ones
I'm working with anyway, have had significant human
interaction. In many cases treated much like human children.
TINA OK, Grub, here you go. Here's the tool you're
going to use, Grub.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) It's normal for sanctuaries to
provide absorbing objects, like bamboo with honey inside.
Psychology experiments can be an interesting way for
the animals to pass the time as well. Here's Noelle,
a 4-year-old female. Chimps mature at about the same
rate as people, so Noelle's a child. She investigates
some strange new objects. Next, Noelle is shown how
to use the hammer and nail.
DAVID BJORKLUND So we demonstrate the task. And then
we wait ten minutes. Ten minutes is long enough to keep
the action out of short-term memory.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) When she gets the objects back,
right away Noelle shows she's learned what to do. She
could be cracking forest nuts by now - but if she was,
would she get the concept? Would she understand, just
by seeing, that the point is to get to the nut inside?
To answer that, we're going to present 9-year-old Grub
with a bigger challenge. As with Noelle, he first gets
some objects to explore.
ASSISTANT Watch what I do. Doesn't that sound pretty?
Okay…
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) A novel use is demonstrated.
ASSISTANT Do it again. Watch…
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) And, of course, as you'd expect
the 9-year-old has no problem later showing he learned
the lesson. He's actually rather nonchalant about the
whole thing. But now the real test. Grub's given 4 new
objects. First we'll check if he might somehow have
had some prior exposure to them. They're interesting,
but there's little doubt he doesn't know what they could
be used for. Next - the demonstration.
ASSISTANT Watch this…
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Grub is very attentive.
ASSISTANT Watching? Here we go…
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Grub sees the cymbals being used,
but later he's given back only the trowels. Right away
he gets it.
DAVID BJORKLUND He saw the cymbals and Now he's generalized
it to the trowels. Very different shape, different handle.
He's really very happy about it, too. We think that
that shows he has not just learned a specific behavior,
but he's generalized, he's learned a concept, he's generalized
the concept.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Psychologists regard getting
the underlying concept like this as a more sophisticated
form of learning than simply copying an action. Humans
learn this way - our complex societies couldn't exist
without it. But it seems the ability must go back a
long way.
DAVID BJORKLUND This gives us one possible mechanism
for cognitive evolution. What chimpanzees, human beings
and maybe our common ancestors had in common. So, for
me, it tells us something about the chimpanzee mind,
but also tells us something about how, quite possibly,
we became human.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) We'll never really know if conceptual
learning happens in the wild, because it's impossible
to know if a young chimp is generalizing a concept,
or if it's just doing something it's seen adults do
before. David Bjorklund believes it may be only human-raised
chimps, like Noelle and Grub, that can conceptualize
actions, while wild chimps just copy them. But either
way, different chimp groups do learn their own distinctive
traditions, passing them down through the generations
- almost like different chimp nations. That doesn't
make chimps human, but it does make chimps, chimps.
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CHIMPS GETTING ALONG
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Right below Frans De Waal's office
at Yerkes Primate Center in Atlanta, there's a group
of 19 chimps that are free to interact in their own
ways. Frans believes, like Jane Goodall, that much chimp
and human behavior is closely related. This is Jimoh,
the alpha male, and Peony, the dominant female, with
her daughter. The adolescent males in the group often
act like adolescents. But the fights rarely get serious.
They usually end in friendly reconciliations -- this
one involving tickling and laughter.
FRANS DE WAAL Now we will throw them in one at a time.
ALAN ALDA OK.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) When I visited Frans 5 years
ago, some new experiments were convincing him that even
human ideas like morality might have parallels in chimp
behavior.
FRANS DE WAAL It's to see who shares with whom.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) These bundles of leaves are a
treat for the chimps, an addition to their regular diet.
FRANS DE WAAL That's a juvenile who took it and the
alpha male takes it over from him, see, and then here...
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Most of the chimps gather around
one of the bundles, and peacefully share the leaves.
But the bundle right below us was taken by a young female
called Georgia, who is much less willing to share.
ALAN ALDA You think Georgia is stingy because she hasn't
learned to share yet or is she just naturally stingy?
FRANS DE WAAL Well, in human terms you would almost
say that she doesn't have the confidence yet and the
position yet to be generous with others. She's still
very much in a sort of competitive mode like, "How much
can I get myself?"
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Georgia sat with her back to
us, firmly monopolizing her bundle.
FRANS DE WAAL In a year we collect thousands of food
transfers between individuals. We see that among adults,
it's reciprocal -- if I share a lot with you, you will
share a lot with me. Juveniles are totally out of this.
Juveniles work on a stealing operation.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Georgia's tactic of stealing
backfires as another juvenile steals the whole bundle
from her.
FRANS DE WAAL That's a typical juvenile way of doing
it.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Georgia's selfishness has other
consequences, too.
FRANS DE WAAL Individuals such as Georgia, who are
not very generous, when they are in need of food, they're
the first ones to be rejected by other individuals.
And so it is as if the other individuals are saying
"Well, you're never sharing with me, why should I share
with you?" And this is also how young females such as
Georgia are gradually learning, it is much better to
cooperate with a system like that -- we get actually
more out of it by cooperating and contributing to it.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Frans and his research assistant
Mike Seres have kept track, in the thousands of trials
they have run, of just who shares with whom. What's
remarkable is that the chimps keep track too. So if
one chimp shares food with another in the morning...
the generosity is returned by a spell of grooming in
the afternoon. The very young are allowed to get away
with behavior that the females in this group don't tolerate
from an adolescent male. He picks up a stick and tries
intimidation, but the group isn't impressed. Here's
Georgia, again causing trouble. Jimoh ambles over, nudges
her gently, and she holds out her hand in apology. Again,
Jimoh breaks up a squabble. So while as in human society
there's conflict and aggression, chimps have many strategies
for keeping the peace. Frans sees in these behaviors
the root of what in humans we call morality.
FRANS DE WAAL They have many of the emotions and elements
of human morality such as empathy and sympathy probably.
Generosity. Certain forms of altruism. Rules and regulations.
Conflict resolution, which is one of my main interests,
is how to resolve conflicts among themselves. And basically
you can look at human morality as a system that resolves
conflicts among parties that live in one society.
ALAN ALDA Does that lead you to think in a different
way about the origins of human morality than you did
before?
FRANS DE WAAL Human morality must have some deep evolutionary
roots. It must come from somewhere. And probably in
other animals we can find not the whole system, but
we can find certain elements of human morality. And
that is what I am seeing when I look at chimpanzees,
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CHIMP MINDS
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) We're back at the Florida chimp
sanctuary where we tested learning abilities, this time
to see whether chimps have a grasp of how the world
should work. Do they, like people, have some general
scheme in their minds against which they can measure
events? A basic element in such a scheme would have
to be the ability to distinguish live from not-live.
DAVID BJORKLUND Will the chimps understand the difference
between animate and inanimate objects, which of course
at one level they do, but more importantly, will they
think it peculiar when they see something like a mallard
duck, for example or a little blackbird being used as
a screwdriver? Which, blackbirds are not typically used
as screwdrivers. Or when they see someone take a rock
and treat it like a pet, very kindly and speak to it?
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) First, we're going to work with
Noelle, the 4-year-old female. She loves all the attention.
ASSISTANT So, Tina, you treat the hawk as if it's a
piece of sandpaper and Jen, you treat the hammer as
if it's a hammer.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Here we're comparing inanimate
objects treated as inanimate… ...to something that should
be alive, but treated as if it isn't. Already you can
see Noelle's intrigued by that one.
DAVID BJORKLUND Time.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) A strict protocol is followed,
designed to eliminate any factors which might bias the
chimp's impressions.
DAVID BJORKLUND Time. Together.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Finally Noelle gets to point
out which one she'd like to investigate further - and
yes, it's the strange one, hawk-sandpaper. Next Noelle
is shown a rock, treated as a pet… …versus rock as rock.
DAVID BJORKLUND Time.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) And the pet rock's the interesting
one.
DAVID BJORKLUND We're going to do the blackbird. Jen,
you go first. You're going to treat it animately. Tina,
you go second, and it will be as a screwdriver, inanimately.
Okay. Anytime you're ready. Go ahead.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) So far, Noelle's choices could
be explained if she just likes anything animate - either
the object itself, or its treatment. But now for the
first time she's facing an animate object on both sides
-- blackbird-pet, versus blackbird-screwdriver.
DAVID BJORKLUND Time.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) But she still gets it -- blackbird-screwdriver
was the weird one. So far it's a solid worldview.
DAVID BJORKLUND Okay, Tina you go first. Go ahead.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Now comes the toughest challenge.
Inanimate log, treated like animate pet, up against
a powerful combination - animate duck, treated like
an animate object. That's a kind of double dose of animation.
ASSISTANT What were you doing in that bucket, you silly
mallard?
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) And it's too attractive for the
young chimp. The pet log should have violated her expectations,
as psychologists say, but she missed it, and that's
normal for Noelle.
DAVID BJORKLUND Generally when there's a choice for
Noelle between an animate object and an inanimate object,
she'll go with the animate object no matter how it's
being treated. But you did see earlier when there were
the blackbirds - one being treated like a screwdriver,
and one being treated like a pet, she went with the
one being treated like a screwdriver. So there's a little
bit of going-for-the-violation-of-the-expectation, Noelle.
But when push comes to shove, is she has a choice between
an animate object, no matter how it's treated she tends
to go towards that.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Human 3-year-olds also fail this
test. But now let's see how 9-year-old Grub does, with
the identical series of tests. First hawk-sandpaper…
...against hammer.
DAVID BJORKLUND Time.
ASSISTANT OK, go look.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) No problem - but as with Noelle,
this was the only animate element in this trial, so
it wasn't much of a test. Next, pet-rock against rock-rock.
DAVID BJORKLUND Time.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Again, no problem, but again
this was the only choice with any animate element to
it, in the way it was treated. Now, animate blackbird
treated animately, against screwdriver-blackbird. It's
a tougher choice, but like Noelle he still picks out
the one that's peculiar.
ASSISTANT Go look.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Finally the big test. The doubly-attractive
mallard treated animately, against the log treated animatedly.
This is the one Noelle failed.
ASSISTANT Look at you. How pretty you are.
ASSISTANT What a beautiful log you are.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) No problem. Grub is casually
confident in his choice. At age 9 he has as solid a
concept in his mind of how things should be, as the
same age human. So chimps can think conceptually, they
can learn conceptually, and they can even handle abstract
concepts, as we'll see next.
SALLY BOYSEN Hi sweetie.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) This is Sally Boysen, a researcher
who, like the Florida researchers, also works with rescued
and orphaned chimps. A couple of years ago she showed
me how chimps get abstract concepts with ease. We're
going to run a "hide and seek" experiment, using a scale
model room and a matching real room that's just a few
feet away. Sally says that chimps can get the connection
between the two -- that one can be a symbol for the
other.
SALLY BOYSEN Here's our little miniature room. And
we have a replica of that cupboard. And a little chair
right here. Blue tub. We have a miniature tree here.
ALAN ALDA And this little can here?
SALLY BOYSEN That's the item we're going to hide.
ALAN ALDA Oh, I see.
SALLY BOYSEN They'll watch as we hide this, like under
the blue tub.
ALAN ALDA Yeah.
SALLY BOYSEN Then I go in the real room and hide a
real can of soda. And then the chimp has to pay attention
to where we hid it here, and then find it in the same
place inside.
ALAN ALDA What's the real room look like compared to
this?
SALLY BOYSEN Bigger.
ALAN ALDA Yes.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Everything in the model has its
full scale counterpart
ALAN ALDA That doesn't open?
SALLY BOYSEN Yeah. It does. The chimps know how to
open it.
ALAN ALDA You have to be a chimp... yeah right.
SALLY BOYSEN You just go like this. It's kind of an
IQ test. What can I say?
ALAN ALDA Oh, I see, yeah.
SALLY BOYSEN Whoops.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) We're going to be working with
strong, full grown animals.
SALLY BOYSEN You stay out here.
ALAN ALDA Right. You're going to be in there?
SALLY BOYSEN Yeah.
ALAN ALDA Now, you're safe in there?
SALLY BOYSEN Sure. But don't try this at home.
ALAN ALDA I haven't got a chimp at home.
SALLY BOYSEN Miss Sheeba.
SALLY BOYSEN Very nice, okay, she has to get a little
rowdy here. This is so much fun, isn't it?
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Sheeba is 17 years old -- raised
from age two by Sally.
SALLY BOYSEN That was impressive.
ALAN ALDA That was cute.
SALLY BOYSEN That was very impressive. Come on. Let's
go talk about the scale model study.
ALAN ALDA You know, I've worked with actors like this
before.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) I have to admit, Sheeba's not
striking me as much of an intellectual yet.
SALLY BOYSEN Okay, I've got some real Pepsi for you.
All right, where shall we hide it? Let's see. I'm going
to take this little one. Are you watching me? And I'm
going to put it in here. Okay, watch. I'm going to put
it right in here. So we put it in here. Shall I show
you again. Look. I put it right in here. Isn't that
cool? I know I have makeup on. See my lips? I know I
have different makeup on. Now, you see that? We're going
to keep on going. Now you stay right here. Okay. I'll
be right back. I'm going to hide this real one for you.
Okay, stay right there. Stay there. Where is it? Where
did we put it? In here, right. There's the little one.
Okay, go find the real one for me. Hurry. Hurry. See
if you can find it. Good work!
ALAN ALDA She gets it opened, too.
JUDY DELOACHE Here's Big Snoopy and this is his little
friend, this is Little Snoopy.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Now look at how a two and a half
year old human does in the same experiment.
JUDY DELOACHE Look I'm hiding Little Snoopy…
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) This experiment has been tried
with hundreds of children.
JUDY DELOACHE You wait here while I hide Big Snoopy.
I'm going to hide him in the same place in his room.
AMOS And I'll go find him.
JUDY DELOACHE Okay, Amos, Big Snoopy is ready. Can
you come find him? Remember he's hiding in the same
place in his room that Little Snoopy is hiding. Remember
Big Snoopy's hiding in the same place…
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Until about age three kids never
get that the model symbolizes the real room.
SALLY BOYSEN Sheeb, that's where I put the little can,
see it? OK I'm going to go hide the real one.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) So in one way Sheeba is sharper
than the average two and a half year old human.
SALLY BOYSEN Don't cheat, I'll be right back.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) There's no doubt that Sheeba
sees the model as representing the real room. That's
abstract thinking the way humans do it. So in this respect,
chimps really are us.
SALLY BOYSEN Where'd I hide it? Can you remind me?
Remind me where I put it. Right there! Okay, see if
you can get it for me, hurry, go on. Oh, you found it,
all right, good work, good work!
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CHIMPS UNDER THE GUN
HUNTER [Hunting call]
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) People have hunted here for thousands
of years, but in the last decade or so a vast new trade
in wild animals -- or bushmeat, as it's known -- has
spread through the region. It's not subsistence hunting
by locals. It's a long distance trade that's reaching
into big cities, sometimes even to Europe and America.
We're going to look at the bushmeat trade in our final
story, and please be aware that we're going to show
some quite graphic scenes.
ALAN ALDA What about the bushmeat problem? That sounds
like an enormously serious problem.
JANE GOODALL That's the worst conservation threat to
the great apes in the great Congo basin. The Congo basin
has been their stronghold, the place in Africa where
there were the only significant populations, 12 years
ago.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) One man focused the world's attention
on the bushmeat trade - Karl Amman, a writer and photographer
who lives with his wife, Kathy, outside Nairobi in Kenya.
KARL AMMAN Ah, yes, Carol, this is Karl Amman. Can
we just reconfirm… In 1988 we did this trip on the Congo
River. We were in one of these legendary Congo River
boats which are essentially big floating villages.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) The trip took Karl and Kathy
into the heart of one of the world's last great forest
wildernesses, covering a million square miles. Most
of the remaining 150,000 chimps live here. A hundred
years ago there were perhaps a million chimps, when
forests were much more extensive. The river boats are
big travelling markets, but Karl was surprised by what
was being traded.
KARL AMMAN We saw a hell of a lot of wildlife coming
on board -- smoked, fresh, and some still alive.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) There were many monkeys and baby
chimps. They took pity on one chimp that was tied up,
and bought it. Its family had undoubtedly been shot.
Overall it was the sheer numbers of wild animals that
struck them.
KARL AMMAN The feeling was, there's something going
on. If we didn't know about it, probably a lot of people
didn't know about. And I felt I wanted to further investigate
how big an issue this really was.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Karl embarked on a series of
trips across half a dozen central African countries.
It soon became clear that something was going on, and
yes, it was a big issue. It starts with foreign development
money flooding into the region. The primary goal is
to take out the most valuable trees for export. And
the only way to get in is to build roads - thousands
of miles of them, penetrating what was impenetrable.
KARL AMMAN They're opening up those very very deep
corners of the forest where hunters haven't have any
access, and which have been pretty undisturbed, you
know, forever.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) The bushmeat trade works like
this. At the head of each logging road is a camp for
workers, housing several hundred people. Professional
hunters fan out into the forest from each camp.
KARL AMMAN We have now left the main road and are following
on this hunting trail to where he said he shot at six
o'clock this morning, four gorillas.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Saying he was simply interested
in the animals they were finding, Karl persuaded many
hunters to take him along. Killing any great apes -
chimps and gorillas - is illegal everywhere, and hunting
of most other wildlife is strictly limited. But there
is essentially no enforcement of wildlife laws, although
no hunters were keen on their business being exposed.
KARL AMMAN I'm a little bit worried because these guys
have started talking, which is essentially bad news,
because this is sensitive footage by any standards.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) After dozens of trips, tirelessly
hiking in and out on logging roads, observing hunters
and checking markets, Karl has built up a comprehensive
picture of the bushmeat trade. The first stop for the
bushmeat is usually one of the forest hunting camps.
At this one in Congo, Karl saw chimps that had just
been brought in, along with several orphaned babies.
Babies don't bring much of a price as meat, so the hunters
don't shoot them along with the adults. Instead they
try to sell them as pets. Of course, many don't survive.
At the hunting camps, most of the meat is smoked. It
may have to travel for a week or more before reaching
the eventual consumer.
KARL AMMAN (SUBTITLE) Is the hand good to eat?
CAMP WORKER (SUBTITLE) Yes it's good.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) These are chimp parts.
GUIDE (SUBTITLE) What's that?
CAMP WORKER (SUBTITLE) The head of the female.
GUIDE (SUBTITLE) That's the hand.
CAMP WORKER (SUBTITLE) It's the right hand.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) There are thousands of bushmeat
processing camps all over the region. They supply, first,
forest markets like this, where Karl saw some of the
endangered Bonobo chimpanzees, a smaller relative of
the common chimp.
KARL AMMAN We're here at this weekly forest market
and we have just come across this Bonobo carcass which
was just brought in by some traders. And it's a relatively
fresh carcass. It's smoked, but it's probably not more
than a few days old. And it's going to be sold here
for roughly about seven to eight dollars.
KARL AMMAN (SUBTITLE) How much is that?
TRADER (SUBTITLE) That's a hundred thousand. And that's
fifty thousand.
KARL AMMAN Okay, this is a hundred thousand. And this
is fifty thousand. That's another piece of chimp.
GUIDE You see the hand.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Still out in the forest, the
logging camps are the first large scale consumers of
bushmeat. Here endangered forest elephant is being consumed,
along with gorilla.
KARL AMMAN (SUBTITLE) Do you prefer elephant or gorilla,
as meat?
MAN IN CAMP (SUBTITLE) Gorilla. Elephant is not as
good to eat as gorilla.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Perhaps three quarters of the
bushmeat is trucked out of the forest along the same
new roads that brought the hunters and loggers in. Finally
it gets to one of hundreds of towns and cities in the
region, where it's estimated there may be a 70 million
people who consume bushmeat regularly. Karl filmed bushmeat
shipments arriving on truck after truck. To go into
the market, Karl asked his assistant to wear a camera
hidden in a pair of glasses. Even though the laws aren't
enforced, almost all of this trade is still illegal.
KARL AMMAN That looks pretty small, Joseph. Look into
my lens, so I can see.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) The urban markets are filled
with an enormous variety of bushmeat. Practically every
animal in the forest can be found - monkeys, antelope,
birds, bats, chimps, gorillas, elephant. Bushmeat is
popular, and brings high prices.
KARL AMMAN When we're talking urban centers, where
the demand comes from, you have a setting where people
pay a premium for this meat, and it's not eaten by the
poor, but by the middle class and the rich. And that's
really the aspect which drives the market.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Bushmeat is regarded as much
more desirable than farm-raised meat, like pork or beef.
For many people it's a nostalgic link to a past village
life that's gone forever.
AMMAN'S ASSOCIATE He bought a piece of fresh chimp
hand, which is a desirable piece, for 2,500 CFA. He
bought a kilo of fresh beef, without bone, a good deal
more meat than this, for 1,500 CFA. Smoked chimp hand
he bought for 2,500. Smoked chimp arm he bought for
2,500. It's more meat but it's less desirable meat than
the hand. Domestic fresh pork for 1,300.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Karl realized the trade he had
at first stumbled across, and then uncovered, was nothing
less than a catastrophe for African wildlife. Because
of the staggering scale, it's turned him into a full-time
advocate for controls.
KARL AMMAN There's one estimate which states a million
metric tons, a billion kilos of game meat consumed in
the Congo River basin annually. I mean, that would be
a billion dollar business. There are very few other
billion dollar industries in the whole of Africa. When
it come to apes it's pretty clear cut that it cannot
possibly be sustainable.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) For chimpanzees, with their traditions
and complex societies, just the disruption of logging
would be serious. But the bushmeat trade is far more
threatening.
KARL AMMAN You might have a huge impact on chimp populations
even without hunting, but if you than combine it with
hunting, it's clear cut that it's unsustainable. So,
you know, I don't think we should wait for the scientific
data. I think all the indicators are that it's pretty
much unsustainable for pretty much every species. And
it's an excuse to say we have to have scientific data
to prove it. We should deal with the solutions rather
than analyzing the problem.
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) Karl now has a second orphan
chimp, rescued when it was a baby. He's set up a sanctuary
for them near his house. It's only a gesture of course,
in the face of this trade which could within 10 years
wipe out all chimpanzees living outside small protected
areas, like Gombe National Park. Reducing the trade
is going to take everything from changing the taste
for bushmeat, which Karl wants to attempt, to international
pressure.
JANE GOODALL The whole situation is really, really
difficult. And it's going to need, I think, pressure
on heads of state in the developed world, on the World
Bank. We're going to need to put pressure on the heads
of state in these central African countries to help
them to enforce their own wildlife laws. And in a country
that's torn apart with civil war, like the old Zaire,
and like Congo-Brazzaville, how do you do it?
ALAN ALDA (NARRATION) For Jane Goodall, the bushmeat
trade is just one of the ways we mistreat our closest
living relatives. We use chimps for medical research,
or as pets, we put them in circuses - none of these
is acceptable, she says. And for her, that's just the
beginning.
ALAN ALDA What ought we to know about our cousins that
would make us behave more humanely, more intelligently
toward them?
JANE GOODALL That their lives do matter. They have
a personality. Each one is different. There are all
these different life histories. They have minds. They
can solve problems. They invent new things. They feel,
as we feel, as far as we can tell. And so they are chimpanzee
beings, as we are human beings. And you can extrapolate
from that down into our dogs and our cats, our horses,
the pigs that we shut up and eat. That we have to learn
from the chimps. I like to see it as, a chimpanzee reaches
towards us, over what we saw as an unbridgeable gulf
between us and the rest of the animal kingdom, and the
chimp looks into our eyes and says, "Don't you understand
that our lives matter, too, that we have personalities,
and minds, and feelings?" And if you look back into
those eyes, and you reach out and take that hand and
say, "Yes, you're right," then they'll turn over their
shoulder and say, "And what about them? What about all
those other amazing animal beings? Don't they matter
too?"
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