September 20, 2019

This week on To The Contrary with Bonnie Erbe, our panelists discuss 

On the panel this week joining host Bonnie Erbe is: Debra Carnahan, Former Judge and Federal Prosecutor; Ann Stone, Co-Founder, Women For Trump; Anushay Hossain, Writer & Political Commentator; Tiana Lowe, Commentary Writer, Washington Examiner


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Self Induced Abortions

The overall rate of abortions is down, but the rate of self induced ones is up

  • Ann Stone: “They rightly mentioned that the rate of abortion is down because the number of women of childbearing age is way down as well. But there is an entire movement in the country to teach women how to self induce in the event the Roe gets overturned.”

  • Anushay Hossain:  “Abortion has become so politicized in America that it's no longer seen as a part of comprehensive reproductive healthcare for women. And you have to trust women with decisions about our bodies.  I think that the fact that we're going back to, you know, a time in the 60s when women used to do this. Now it's 2019, we should be making progress on women's rights, not going backwards”

  • Bonnie Erbe: “It never ceases to amaze me how many particularly young women don't even know when they're until they're three and four months pregnant? Shouldn't there be, and that, of course, a lot of that you could put on the religious right for for only allowing, where they have the political power to make that decision, only allowing abstinence only sex education, which is like no sex education.” 8:20

  • Tiana Lowe:  “[California’s abortion rates] fell like 16% in the last three years, as opposed to the South where that rate was lower, which goes to show it is a change in culture. It is a better understanding of how contraception works and a better appreciation for the value of human life.”

  • Debra Carnahan: “What you have right now is you have generations of women that thought they could go to doctors and clinics and have a safe legal abortion and now they're saying, ‘where do I go? I don't know what to do.’ They're going on the internet.” 


LGBTQ Pronouns

Grammy award-winning singer Sam Smith triggers debate after asking to be referred to as “they”

  • Ann Stone: “ I just don’t want to see people fired if they misuse a pronoun. If this really is that important to them, I’m willing to honor them that way. Again, people should not have legal consequences if they misuse a pronoun.”

  • Anushay Hossain: “I don't think that I'm in a position to be like, actually, if you want to be called that, then that's too confusing for me. And it's an inconvenience. So I approach this and use it as an education.”  

  • Bonnie Erbe: “When Gloria Steinem came out with Ms. Magazine, what the women’s  movement did is create a new word. Not distort the already long time meaning of the grammar that's been part of the English language for centuries. That's where I think that's why this is so controversial.”

  • Tiana Lowe: “I think that there’s a way for us to affirm that right to identify yourself as you want and you’re deserving of human dignity and respect. And Also not punishing people who don’t necessarily remember to use a plural pronoun to refer to a singular person.”

  • Debra Carnahan: “Language is always evolving, you know, it is not a stagnant thing. And if we can use ‘they’ and other terms, and I can say ‘they left their phone, an individual person left their phone there,’ that's fine. I don't have a problem with it. I don't think you should be fired over it. But you know what, as time evolves, and language evolves, we'll see what happens.”

Financial Literacy

The differences in the way girls and boys are taught to think about money

  • Ann Stone:  “Financial literacy and teaching women negotiation are things that are not skills they do pick up at home. It is the way most nuclear families have been organize. It is starting to change, but it is slow. And it is probably one of the most important things we can do for women's empowerment, next to teaching them women's history.”

  • Anushay Hossain: “Now I wonder why we were learning algebra in the eight grade. Maybe we should have been taught more about money management.”

  • Bonnie Erbe: “While it seems like a really good idea, to have universal financial literacy classes for high schoolers, I mean, I can't imagine why it's not being done already. Who are these parents who are not teaching their girls to be financially literate? My parents did it and that was 50 years ago.”

  • Tiana Lowe: “It has never been easier to learn the ins and outs of trading of day trading. So if girls aren't taking advantage of that, I'm sorry, that's not the patriarchy. That's girls not taking ownership of their future.”

  • Debra Carnahan: “I wonder if it's not also a confidence thing, to dream big. Like the guys they're investing, they're looking into the future, make money. And the women are more hoarding and household goods and taught that way. And I'm wondering if that's how we treat and teach our women, that you’re not the big picture people.”


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