June 06, 2014
Home Births:  Pope Francis: The pontiff says couples should have children, not raise pets. Hillary Clinton & World Bank: Clinton and other leaders weigh in on the economic advantages of empowering women. PANEL: Erin Matson; Karin Agness; Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC); Linda Chavez Home Births: Pope Francis: The pontiff says couples should have children, not raise pets. Hillary Clinton & World Bank: Clinton and other leaders weigh in on the economic advantages of empowering women. PANEL: Erin Matson; Karin Agness; Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC); Linda Chavez

This week on To The Contrary with Bonnie Erbe, our panelists discuss home births, Pope Francis's latest comments, and how women's empowerment can boost the economy

On the panel this week joining host Bonnie Erbe is Erin Matson; Karin Agness; Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC); and Linda Chavez.

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Home Births

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  • Erin Matson: "The only women who have access to home birth if they want it, setting aside the merits of whether thats a good idea for them or not, are women who have more money who, of course, tend to be white because of the impact of racism in society today.”

  • Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton: "If you're worried about over medicalization speak with your obstetrician, speak with your own doctor and you can easily find a doctor who will do it the way you want to do it without going out in the forest.”

  • Linda Chavez: "They’re trying to make the hospital environment more welcoming because it does affect the way you recover.”

  • Bonnie Erbe: “Women should have whatever option they want, even if they want to take a more dangerous option thats up to them, but where I stop short on this is having other children at the birth.”

  • Karin Agness: "It is good to have a health care system that allows for options...we do want women to have choices when it comes to childbirth.”


Pope Francis

The pontiff says couples should have children, not raise pets.

  • Erin Matson: "It’s not just a view of marriage and procreation, it’s really a view of women that he’s promoting here... he speaks softly, but he is certainly is doing everything that he can to reinforce traditional gender roles…”

  • Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton : " I can see what the Pope is saying. The propensity of people having and loving their pets is at far greater numbers than I have ever seen before and there’s no question in my mind that for a good many of them they are taking the place of kids."

  • Linda Chavez: "This is the Catholic view of marriage and the Catholic view of the procreative act of sex is that it is always must be open to procreation, to the creation of a child..”

  • Bonnie Erbe: “But don’t you find it a little bit odd coming from, I mean, everybody adores Pope Francis, I understand that, but coming from somebody who is not married and certainly never going to have children to tell everybody else out there to go out there and do it?”

  • Karin Agness: "The way our social services and systems are set up, it really does rely on young people and one of the best examples right now is Obamacare.


Hillary Clinton & World Bank

Clinton and other leaders weigh in on the economic advantages of empowering women.

  • Erin Matson: "One of the things we need most is investment in areas that will improve women’s lives.”

  • Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton: "You are not making use, whatever that turns that out to be in your society, of half of the population.”

  • Linda Chavez: “I think education is the key and if you educate young women it does delay their having children too young in age.  It does mean that they contribute to the economy.”

  • Bonnie Erbe: "Is this just a developing nation’s problem?  Women are not at parity economically in this country yet.”

  • Hillary Clinton: “You cannot change norms if you are only talking to women and girls about changing the norms that restrict their voice and agency .”

Be sure to tune in this week for more discussion! Click here to check your local listings.