August 22, 2014



This week on To The Contrary with Bonnie Erbe, our panelists discuss terrorist group ISIL, controversy over the ethics of surrogacy, and preventing and treating child abuse and neglect.

On the panel this week joining host  Bonnie Erbe is President of Incite Unlimited Avis Jones DeWeever, Republican Commentator Rina Shah, Journalist Anushay Hossain, and the Heritage Foundation’s Jennifer Marshall.

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Terrorist group ISIL uses sexual enslavement of women as a weapon of war.

  • Avis Jones DeWeever: "This is one of those situations where we are watching atrocities that can lead to the extinction of peoples… if there’s any time where you are justified in using all force possible this certainly is it..”

  • Anushay Hossain: "There’s a small silver lining here, which is the Kurds that the US decided to arm, and they are very feminist. They have an entire battalion of the Pashmergas that is all women, and ISIL believes that if you are killed by a woman you are denied entry into heaven, it’s just a matter of time when they meet these female fighters.”

  • Rina Shah: "Sexual violence against women is no longer a casualty of war, it is now a weapon of war.”

  • Jennifer Marshall: “Violence against women is just one mark of the heinousness of this terrorist group and why it needs to be stopped”

  • Dr. Azizah al-Hibri: “This is not only contrary to the Quran but the prophet himself said that when you enter a city or a village or a land in war, leave the women and children aside and only address the fighters.”

  • Bonnie Erbe: “What is it going to take, ultimately, for abuse of women as a weapon of war [to become] a reason to go in and strike a country?”

Surrogacy Controversy

A documentary called Breeders stirs up controversy over the ethics of surrogacy.

  • Avis Jones DeWeever: "I’m very leery about the degree to which impoverished women can be exploited in this way.”

  • Anushay Hossain: "You can rent a womb, these women are really being treating as, I hate the phrase, but a cake oven.”

  • Rina Shah: "It’s not like someone is coming over to them with a turkey baster saying, ‘do it, be a surrogate.’ What’s next if we regulate this? What’s next?”

  • Jennifer Marshall: “I think feminists should have problems with this... commodification of life is bad for all of us”

  • Bonnie Erbe: “What we’re seeing is so many women regretting it”

Child Abuse

How to treat and prevent rising child abuse and neglect.

  • Avis Jones DeWeever: "It is true that this is far more pervasive than we like to think and that the number one danger that many children face isn’t that boogie man in the shadows.  It’s that person that’s right there in their homes .”

  • Anushay Hossain: "I think what is important is that we have to get the shame stigma away, especially from the children .”

  • Rina Shah: "I think teachers are saddled with a great deal, whether it’s rural or urban settings, and I think we need more guidance counselors and licensed clinical social workers .”

  • Jennifer Marshall: “You need to look at where the risks are greatest and we’re seeing that risks for child abuse are higher where marriage is absent.”

  • Rachel Clingenpeel: "In general, child abuse and neglect are actually about 100 times as common as all forms of childhood cancer combined.”

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