August 25, 2017

This week on To The Contrary with Bonnie Erbe, our panelists discuss Trump’s approval among men and women, cutting the teen pregnancy prevention program and allowing girls to join the Boys Scouts.

On the panel this week joining host Bonnie Erbe is: Carrie Lukas, President, Independent Women’s Forum; Lara Brown, Associate Professor, George Washington University; Manal Omar, CEO & Founder, Across Red Lines & Truman National Security Fellow; Rina Shah, Republican Strategist

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Trump Gender Gap

Donald Trump continues to be unpopular among women as support for impeachment grows

  • Lara Brown:  “The institution or the presidency does not change the character of the individual who becomes president. That is a huge fallacy. People think that  somebody on the campaign trail might be somebody different once they’re in the White House. That does not happen.”

  • Rina Shah :  “There is a White House official who told a CNBC reporter that the White House doesn’t have a plan for tax reform. They are looking to the Hill for this so don’t bother us anymore. We’re looking to the Hill to lead. I think that’s really dangerous.” (in reference to the plans/policies the Trump administration claimed to have made during the campaign)

  • Bonnie Erbe: “Do you think [Donald Trump] has a strategy here? Or is he just driven by whatever is going on with him mentally?”

  • Manal Omar: “If anything we have to be really careful. The push for impeachment- it actually feeds his narrative.”

  • Carrie Lukas : “The American people have seen who [Donald Trump] is for a long time and I think that when they hear [mental illness] talk they tune it out and say ‘yep there you are out to get him.’”


Teen Pregnancy Prevention Program Cuts

Critics allege the Trump administration is going to go back to abstinence-only sex ed.

  • Lara Brown:  “One of the factors that did come up is that young people are having less sex than other previous generations.”

  • Rina Shah:“I really believe the government should take a backseat. I do believe in resources being available to those who perhaps don’t have a strong family life and a strong safety net, but I just don’t think we should be putting all the focus on government.”

  • Manal Omar: “We’re looking at sex education just as preventing teenage pregnancy when it is actually about empowerment. When people have access to really understanding their sexuality, especially from a young age, it can be turned into a source of power.”

  • Carrie Lukas: “What this is about is budget cuts and you might think there are other places to cut the budget, but there are a lot of people out there who say ‘we are a nation tremendously in debt.’ We need to start doing this.”

Girl Scouts vs. Boy Scouts

The Girl Scout leadership opposes the Boy Scouts considering letting girls in.

  • Lara Brown:  “Women, when they are young, tend to make decisions and behave in ways that they believe men will approve of. The call it the male gaze. There is a lot of academic focus on it where even when there aren’t men in the room, women seem to imagine what a man would say about their behavior.”

  • Rina Shah: “I understand protected spaces, but sometimes women’s groups I think at certain ages are more detrimental to psyches.”

  • Bonnie Erbe:  “The empowerment message that was given [at a girls scouts dinner] and the focus of how preteen girls and teenage girls especially start to lose their self-esteem and [try] to build that back in, that’s just not something that would happen at a co-ed organization.”

  • Manal Omar: “Offering protected space is essential. It really allows for people to step into their own individual power.”

  • Carrie Lukas: “There’s need for women to sometimes just be around women and I think that is a valuable community. We women get a lot from not having the distraction of men around and I think the same is true for boys.”


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