March 23, 2018

This week on To The Contrary with Bonnie Erbe, our panelists discuss President Trump’s extramarital affairs, Starbucks’ equal pay efforts and Deb Haaland for Congress.

On the panel this week joining host Bonnie Erbe is: Linda Chavez, Chair, Center for Equal Opportunity; Former Rep. Donna Edwards (D-MD); Carrie Lukas, President, Independent Women’s Forum; Lara Brown, Associate Professor, George Washington University

Trump Sex Scandals

More women are speaking up about their alleged extra-marital affairs with Donald Trump.

  • Donna Edwards: “I think for evangelicals, there is no more return to righteousness after this election.  And when you look at the recent special elections, what you really see is that squishy middle in there is really going over to Democrats.”

  • Lara Brown:  “One of the realities is scandals and character really only come into play in the primary elections.  In a general election, people would prefer to have people who agree with them, even if they are not of such great character than they would someone of the opposite party of stellar character.”

  • Bonnie Erbe: “Since the second half of the twentieth century we have not had a President with this much, this kind of scandals.”

  • Carrie Lukas: “If I could just speak on behalf of conservatives.  There are a lot of conservatives, who are basically compartmentalizing and say I don’t like this behavior, this is bad stuff. I wish he hadn’t done in the past.  I sure hope he doesn’t. If something illegal comes out, that’s a whole different ball of wax.

  • Linda Chavez: “I think the base is willing to stick their collective heads in the sand and then when you push them on it, they stick them up and say ‘but Gorsuch.’


Starbucks Equal Pay

Starbucks has revealed tools executives can use to eliminate the gender pay gap.

  • Donna Edwards: “There is a push around the country to increase the minimum wage for those low paid workers, so it means Starbucks is actually in competition, when it comes to drawing in a workforce.”

  • Lara Brown:  “But I also think that what they’re doing is really fascinating, because they probably are looking at how do we keep our workers longer and how do we keep them happy.”

  • Linda Chavez: “The real question is if they begin to try and make the goal of the company things like pay equity and ignore their shareholders. I sit on corporate boards and have for many years, and as a corporate board member, my responsibility is not to the workers, my responsibility is to the shareholders.”

  • Carrie Lukas:  “Some of these statistics can be very misleading and I worry a little bit as we focus on trying to zero out a statistic that you lose a lot of the nuance, because there’s a lot of studies that show it’s actually not the women in the same position as a man who’s earning eighty cents on the dollar.”

Native American Female Candidates

Will New Mexico elect its first Native-American Congresswoman?

  • Donna Edwards:  “I think she represents a really important moment not just for Native Americans, but in New Mexico in terms of what she’s gonna bring to the leadership table.”

  • Lara Brown: I think what you’re seeing is that there is more engagement of more people who have felt outside the system, who are saying I really wanna be a part of the system and I want to engage with it.

  • Linda Chavez: “I think she’s got a very good chance of winning.  New Mexico has been a purple state, but it’s been trending pretty blue and I think with the way things are going in this upcoming congressional election I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see her elected and I think that’s great.”

  • Carrie Lukas:  It is a very positive trend to see so many women getting involved, but at the end of the day it’ll be about the issues, not somebody’s gender or their background.”

  • Debra Haaland: “Considering the fact that we have never had a Native American woman in Congress, I am working very hard to uh gain support of Indians tribes across the country, and we've been very successful so far.”


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