April 27, 2018

This week on To The Contrary with Bonnie Erbe, our panelists Erin Matson, Patrice Lee Onwuka, Anushay Hossain, and Karin Lips discuss #EnoughIsEnough, Girl Cub Scouts, and Behind the Headlines: How Change Happens, a book by Leslie Crutchfield of Georgetown’s Global Social Enterprise Initiative.

On the panel this week joining host Bonnie Erbe is: Anushay Hossain, Founder, Anushay’s Point;  Patrice (Lee) Onwuka, Senior Policy Analyst at the Independent Women’s Voices; Karin Agness Lips, President, Network of Enlightened Women; Erin Matson, Co-Founder, Reproaction

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Enough is Enough

How the #MeToo movement is going forward in Congress

  • Erin Matson: “We are never going to have a meaningful cultural shift so long as the President of the United States is a serial sexual harasser.  The allegations of abuse. The open disdain towards women, even the latest now revealing that he didn’t even buy his wife a birthday present, with this sort of disregard and disdain for women coming from the highest office in frankly the world, until that changes, I think we can’t claim cultural victory.”

  • Patrice Lee Onwuka:  “Among women, Independents, Democrats and Republicans, the top issue was not women’s issues.  It was the economy, health care, it was national security, and it was even aging issues for parents and grandparents.  Until progressives have an agenda to push forward, they’re not going to make headway.”

  • Bonnie Erbe:”We have seen a lull in the outing.  It was non-stop the end of last year and early this year and it’s kind of a lull right now.”

  • Anushay Hossain: “We’ve never seen a moment like this where women are getting together and just saying no more, and calling it out, and sharing their stories.”

  • Karin Lips: “We do need to make sure to distinguish between true sexual harassment and sometimes the awkward relationships between men and women and I think that we’ve seen as this movement’s continued that sometimes it's not just about assault and harassment, but has gone into the field of awkward relationships.”

Girl Cub Scouts

The Boy Scouts of America allows girls to become cub scouts

  • Erin Matson:  “The Girl Scouts have a fantastic program, and I don’t really see this as an either/or, there’s always going to be an important role for the Girl Scouts, and as a feminist I so appreciate the hard work they do to build self esteem in girls.”

  • Patrice Onwuka:  “I actually think that this is more of a takeover by the Boy Scouts into the Girl Scouts area, they recognize not only will they have boys and girls co-ed programs.  They’re going to have to develop girls only programs, which is exactly what the Girl Scouts does, so I actually think, this is kind of like a hostile takeover.”

  • Bonnie Erbe: “It’s really more about efficiency for the parents.  The parents don’t want to drive the daughter to one den and the son to another place and it’s really about being able to drop both kids at the same place.”

  • Anushay Hossain:”I feel like when you integrate these programs, it could become competitive in a way that necessarily won’t foster positive confidence.”

  • Karin Lips:“The Boy Scouts are a private organization.  They can do what they want here, but I think this is really an indictment of the Girls Scouts, that young girls don’t want to be Girl Scouts.”

How Change Happens

Leslie Crutchfield’s research on organizing and successful and unsuccessful social movements.

  • Erin Matson:  One phrase that I’ve heard over and over in my organizing career that I think holds so true is have a friend be a friend, and so we need to be there for each other.”

  • Patrice Onwuka:  “When it comes to gun rights and gun control, I don’t think we’re going to see a lot of federal legislation move through both houses of Congress, because it’s just not feasible, and when we look at the state level we are seeing actual legislation that supports gun possession or loosening of restrictions.”

  • Anushay Hossain: I haven’t had any movement give me so much hope and belief than I have with these kids from the Parkland shootings and you know, that generation grew up with mass shootings, that’s not something I grew up with or you grew up with, so I feel like I read this somewhere that adults have failed us.  I feel like the kids are going to show us the way.”

  • Leslie Crutchfield:“Never doubt that young people can change the world, when you look at some of the most successful movements over many decades, you see students at the helm.  It was students that led the anti-Vietnam war. Students were at the helm of the Civil Rights Movement and I believe the hashtag never again advocates that are coming out of Parkland really have a chance to turn this moment into a movement.”

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