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Coming to terms with "The African Colossus":
An Interview with ANTONY THOMAS
An award-winning documentary filmmaker of international renown, Antony
Thomas achieved notoriety as writer and director of Death of a Princess,
which caused a diplomatic rift between the British and Saudi governments--and
earned some of the highest ratings in PBS history. His series, The South
African Experience, led to Thomas's being banned from his native South
Africa in 1977--which didn't stop him from conceiving Rhodes in the
early 1980s. Based on a renewed fascination with the celebrated diamond king
and empire builder, Cecil Rhodes (a pervasive, posthumous presence during
Thomas's upbringing in South Africa in the 1940s and `50s; he moved to England
in 1967), and over a decade in the making, Rhodes garnered critical
praise when it aired on the BBC. "It is Thomas's finest achievement to have
shown us the subtle, elusive side of Rhodes's personality, instead of simply
depicting a ruthless tycoon who bribed and bullied his way to power," wrote
Richard West in the London Sunday Times. And Nadine Gordimer, speaking
of Thomas's definitive companion biography, Rhodes: The Race for Africa,
said: "Antony Thomas explores the man's amazing life with lively intelligence,
scrupulously fair and informed insight, and...deep understanding..."
Writer Richard Maurer spoke recently with Thomas about his struggle to come to
terms with a man who has been called by enemies and admirers alike, "The
African Colossus."
How were you taught to regard Rhodes when you were growing up?
I was brought up to revere the man--being from that particular stock of British
South Africans for whom Rhodes was incredibly important. It was a time when the
empire was shaking. They needed Cecil Rhodes. He was a religious icon;
everything about him was. For instance his celibacy, which of course has been
the subject of so much speculation, was something that was almost a Christ-like
quality that they attributed to him. He was too completely involved with his
great mission in life to be able to consider any kind of emotional, physical,
or sexual relationship. That was the attitude they had. He was a holy figure.
A little like George Washington in this country?
That's an interesting comparison. I don't know enough about Washington, but I'm
sure if you were to really study Washington in depth, it wouldn't be quite such
a disillusioning process as studying Rhodes in depth.
What was the beginning of your disillusionment?
I left South Africa in 1967, when I was in my late twenties, and came to
England. I had already taken a political course, which for a while led to
tremendous tensions between me and the surviving members of my family. And
Rhodes was all part of that past that I didn't want to think about. Three years
after I arrived in London, a gentleman named Kenneth Griffith, who's an
actor-writer with a fiery style of documentary storytelling, asked me if I
would direct a program on Rhodes. I read his script and was very shocked by the
damning portrait of the man. I did a lot of my own reading and realized how
many lies had been told. Also, I was fascinated because Rhodes seemed such an
extraordinarily contemporary figure. He has much more in common with a modern
tycoon like Rupert Murdoch than with imperial idealists or imperial
moneymakers.
Was he a greedy man?
He was not greedy for money in anything like the conventional sense. He
regarded money as an instrument of power, an instrument to bribe, an instrument
to influence. The accumulation of vast wealth wasn't at the center of this.
It's a more naked, primitive thing than that.
And yet he started out as quite idealistic.
Yes, that's one of the fascinating things about him. It really hit me when I
read the first batch of letters he wrote when he was seventeen and had just
arrived in South Africa. They're not only beautifully written, [with] a sort of
artistic sensibility, a kind of sense of place that is at times magical, but
they portray a young man who had tremendous respect for African people, a real
sense of fairness, which seemed, of course, quite outside its time. That again
is something that people misunderstood. The more I read, the more humbled I
became by the fact that ideas which we think are part of our own contemporary
enlightenment are not new by any means. There were many voices and many
opinions in Rhodes's time which were quite as liberal and human as anything we
might feel proud of today.
How do you explain the kind of monster he became?
I think it was his sentence of death. When he was twenty-one, he was diagnosed
with a heart condition and given only six months to live. Everything changes
then. If you are ambitious, if you've got great dreams--and you know you've got
imminent death hanging over you--somehow there's no more time for finesse; it's
time for shortcuts. His first recorded criminal behavior was over the
sabotaging of water pumps. There he was, still in the diamond mines, which were
all cut up among hundreds of prospectors. He knew that this thing would only
work if there was a monopoly. The commodity [diamonds] itself was valueless;
its only value was its rarity. It could never happen with all these competing
people. How the hell was he going to control it [the mines]? By controlling the
pumps. How do you control the pumps? Well, make sure that not many of them work
and people come to you in despair. That was the beginning. And it was just too
easy. He was found out, but he used his charm, and he used the old boy network,
and it never came to trial. A lot of criminal lives begin like that. By the
time he was out of his twenties, he had got rid of all the competition and he
held the world's diamonds in his hand. And then, of course, he had the money to
fund mercenary armies and take Africa.
Rhodes is famous for saying everyone has his price. Was there anyone in his
life who wasn't corrupted?
No one. It's sad, but if there had been somebody who had stood up in his whole
long career and said `stop,' maybe things would have developed differently.
There is one marvelous moment when he came back from another of his wheeler
deals in London having achieved everything he'd ever wanted, and one of his
associates remarked that Rhodes is getting more and more nervous and trusts
nobody. That's the other side of it, isn't it? If you feel that everyone
crumbles before you, your respect for humanity can't be very deep.
Do you think his story could somehow have ended differently?
It's impossible to say. But if that power had been used in a positive way
instead of in a self-serving, pragmatic way, what might have happened? You have
a situation today where South Africa is desperately seeking overseas investment
in order to do all those millions of things that have to be done. Just think of
the wealth of South Africa 100 years ago, and the fortunes that were taken out
of there. There's an extraordinary irony there. When Rhodes arrived, it was the
only society I think where black and white lived together in almost equal
terms, because of its backwardness and poverty. Black and white were ready to
cross the threshold from a pastoral society to an industrial society at the
same time. In some of the mines, blacks owned eighty percent of the claims.
Then, largely and very much to do with people like Rhodes, all that possibility
was strangled. That's the degree of the crime.
To what extent can Rhodes be blamed for the apartheid system?
It's been comfortable for the British to blame this on the Afrikaners, but all
the elements of apartheid were put in place by Rhodes. The first thing is that
he enacted a law when he was prime minister that forced blacks into reserves,
where they couldn't be self-sufficient. He then imposed a tax on every single
hut so that people were forced to sell their labor to the white economy.
The second thing is, he was determined that black people should not have the
same education as whites. In the early 19th century, South Africa was a
non-racial society. Whites and blacks went to the same schools. He put an end
to this. He introduced what he called "agricultural" schools, where blacks were
taught to wash clothes, hoe the ground, and so on.
The third thing he did was introduce pass laws. Blacks were forbidden to
travel on the same transport as whites; everything was segregated. He did all
this half a century before the National Party officially established
apartheid.
Is there anything that helped you penetrate his personality?
Funny enough, what helped most was a program I made for WGBH in the early
1980s, called Frank Terpil: Confessions of a Dangerous Man. This
supposedly ex-CIA operative had a whole series of crimes alleged against him,
from selling top-secret American weaponry to Moammar Qaddafi, to providing
torture equipment for Idi Amin, to helping train the Gray Wolves, one of whose
members went on to shoot the Pope. When he was brought up for trial in New
York, his prosecutor described him as the most dangerous man in the world. And
then he disappeared under very strange circumstances. David Fanning, Executive
Producer of Frontline, at 'GBH and I were contacted by an intermediary, who
said that Frank Terpil was in hiding in the Middle East and would like to talk
to us, because we'd made this program called Death of a Princess and
Frank's reaction was: "Anyone who had the balls to make that would have the
balls to make a program about me." We went out to meet this incredibly
villainous man, and it was quite frightening to anticipate. But he proved to be
the most attractive, warm, friendly, and unthreatening person I've ever met.
That set me reeling.
At that time I had been absorbed by Rhodes for years and years, and had an
attitude toward him which was very uncompromising, the attitude one might have
for someone like Hitler. I understood a lot through Frank about the nature of
charm and the familiarity of evil, and just realized how close this kind of
evil is to all of us. Frank had a way of making outrageous behavior seem
utterly plausible and normal. He spun my head when it came to thinking about
Rhodes. And I don't think I could have written either the script or the
biography without having met Frank.
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