JACK: I think it's roughly 3,700 (MSL) out here in the lake (bed). I think if
you get in the habit of looking at this, you'll always know where you are, you
have kind of a starting and stopping zone, I don't want to descend more than
200 feet a minute, and there's no use in climbing, [BURN] unless I'm clearing
an obstacle. So we're at 4,000 now, it doesn't look like we're 300 feet off
the ground but...