04.29.2019

Alec Baldwin on His Career and Upcoming Projects

Walter Isaacson sits down with award-winning actor Alec Baldwin, to discuss his now infamous impersonation of President Trump on “Saturday Night Live,” and his latest role in biopic “Framing John Delorean.”

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> AND NEXT WE TURN TO OUR GUEST THE AWARD WINNING ACTOR ALEC BALDWIN.

IN THE PAST THREE YEARS HE'S BECOME AN EVEN MORE FAMILIAR FACE BY IMPERSONATING PRESIDENT TRUMP ON 'SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE.'

BALDWIN'S LATEST ROLE IS ANOTHER LARGER THAN LIFE CHARACTER, FRAMING JOHN DELOREAN TELLS THE STORY OF THE CAR EXECUTIVE BEST KNOWN FOR MAKING THE TIME TRAVELING VEHICLE IN 'BACK TO THE FUTURE.'

ROCKED BY SCANDAL HIS COMPANY ULTIMATELY WENT BUST.

HE JOINED OUR WALTER ISAACSON TO TALK ABOUT THE BIO PICK, HOW HE GETS IN CHARACTER TO PLAY PRESIDENT TRUMP, AND WHY HE'S CONSIDERED RUNNING TO REPLACE HIM.

ALEC, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

HEY, OPENING TRY BECCA FILM FESTIVAL WITH A JOHN DELOREAN DOC AND FILM.

DID YOU LIKE JOHN DELOREAN AS A CHARACTER?

HE SORT OF FITS INTO YOUR STYLE.

OH, NO.

THAT WAS A COMPLIMENT.

OKAY.

I'LL TRY TO FIND A WAY TO TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT.

I'LL WORK ON THAT.

THE -- WELL, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS A -- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY A FEVER, BUT THERE WAS MORE OF A FIZZ TO DOING A DELOREAN FILM.

HE CALLED ME, I GOT A PHONE CALL FROM JOHN DELOREAN, AND HE SAID ALEC, WITH THAT MICHIGANY ACCENT OF HIS.

HE SAID ALEC, I'D LIKE YOU TO PLAY ME IN THE FILM, AND I SAID OH, MY GOD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND HE WAS LIVING -- ACTUALLY, HE HAD BEEN PUT OUT OF HIS NEW JERSEY -- HIS BEDMINSTER ESTATE, WHICH IS NOW TRUMP'S GOLF COURSE.

THAT WAS DELOREAN'S HOME.

AND HE WAS EVICTED FROM THERE BECAUSE OF HIS FINANCIAL REVERSALS, AND HE WAS LIVING IN SOME OTHER HOME NEAR THERE.

I SPOKE TO HIM ON THE PHONE ABOUT ME PLAYING HIM IN A MOVIE, WHICH NEVER CAME ABOUT, BUT NOW THIS CAME, AND I THINK THAT I WAS INTRIGUED BY THE HYBRID OF THE DOC FOOTAGE, OF THE REENACTMENT FOOTAGE, AND I THINK THAT IN TERMS OF CREATING THE CHARACTER, IT WASN'T EASY BECAUSE TO DO DELOREAN, WHO'S TALLER THAN ME, LEANER THAN ME, THERE WAS A PROSTHETIC MAKEUP JOB THAT MAY HAVE TAKEN THREE HOURS, WHICH WE COULDN'T AFFORD THAT TIME-WISE, SO WE CAME UP WITH SOMETHING WITH THE BEST MAKEUP ARTIST THAT I KNOW WHO ARE ALSO VERY QUICK, WHICH ARE THE 'SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE' PEOPLE.

WHEN I FIRST SAW SOME CLIP OF THIS, I SAW JOHN DELOREAN UNVEIL THE CAR, AND IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO REALIZE IT WAS YOU.

LET'S LOOK AT A CLIP OF THIS.

I KNOW THAT WE MAY BE THE NEW BOY ON THE BLOCK, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT ON THIS THE BICENTENNIAL OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, WE CAN START MAKING OUR VERSION OF THE AMERICAN DREAM A REALITY.

ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE THE FIRST INCARNATION IN THE EVOLUTION OF MY DREAM, OUR FIRST VEHICLE CODE NAMED THE DMC 12, THE DELOREAN MOTOR CAR.

I LOVE MOVIES BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH PRACTICALITY INVOLVED.

SO IN ORDER TO HAVE EVERYTHING WORK IN THAT SHOT WE HAD TWO MEN CROUCHED DOWN ON THE FAMILIAR OF THE CAR WHO OPENED THE DOORS ON CUE.

AND MORENA WHO PLAYS CHRISTINA FERRAR HIS WIFE AT THE TIME IS FANTASTIC IN THE MOVIE, AND SHE'S A WONDERFUL ACTRESS AND JOSH CHARLES IS PLAYING THE OTHER PART.

AND HE HAS AN INCREDIBLY DRIVEN CHARACTER.

HAD COCAINE PROBLEMS, EVERYTHING ELSE.

WHEN YOU DO A BIO PICK LIKE THAT, DO YOU SEE HOW THE PERSONALITY WEAVES TOGETHER AND IS ALL PART OF ONE GUY?

DELOREAN'S STORY IS DIFFICULT TO ME TO GRASP BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF AN UNRESOLVED STORY.

DELOREAN HIMSELF HE NEVER ACTUALLY CAME CLEAN ABOUT WHY HE DID SOME OF THE THINGS HE DID.

HE WAS KIND OF A VERY FURTIVE AND VERY KIND OF A CAGEY ANIMAL WHO EVADED PROSECUTION FOR THE -- YOU KNOW, HE BEAT THE SYSTEM IN THE COCAINE CHARGE, I THINK HE WAS SOMEBODY WHO HAD A -- JUST AN ALMOST PARALYZING ALLERGY TO FAILURE.

THERE WAS NO WAY HE WAS GOING TO FAIL, SO TO GO AND GET THE FUNDS FROM SELLING DRUGS AND THE OTHER CRIMES HE COMMITTED, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT DELOREAN PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, OTHER THINGS HE DID THAT WERE KIND OF LARCENOUS OR EXEMPLOYEE TATIVE OF PEOPLE.

SO THE CRIMES, EXPLAIN WHAT THEY WERE, SOMEWHAT PART AND PARCEL OF HIS PERSONALITY.

WELL, I GUESS A JURY, I GUESS IF I HAVE IT RIGHT, A JURY EVENTUALLY SAW OR RECOGNIZE THAT HAD DELOREAN WAS ENTRAPPED IN A DRUG DEAL, AND THEY WENT AND GGOT ALL THIS COCAINE.

THEY WERE GOING TO MOVE AND ACCESS MONEY TO HELP BAIL OUT THE FAILING PROJECT.

NOW THE PROJECT, IF THE STORY'S TOLD PROPERLY, THE PROJECT WHAT HE WANTED TO DO THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ABOUT THAT CAR COMPANY.

HE WAS GOING TO -- THEY WERE CREATING JOBS IN IRELAND.

THEY WERE GOING TO MANUFACTURE A CAR.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS THE MOST SURPRISING TO ME WAS HOW ANEMIC THE CAR ACTUALLY WAS AS A SPORTS CAR.

THEY WERE IN A HURRY TO GET THIS THING -- ONCE THEY GOT THE MONEY AND ONCE THEY HAD DELIVERY DATES AND SO FORTH, IT'S A BUSINESS WITH A TIME LINE.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PUT THE RIGHT ENGINE IN THE CAR.

SO IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY GOT A SIX CYLINDER LOTUS THAT FIT THE BODY.

THEY DID IT BACKWARDS.

THEY DID THE BODY FIRST AND THE ENGINE AFTER THAT, AND THE CAR WAS LIKE A POWER WISE -- I MEAN, IT WASN'T A GOLF CART, BUT IT WAS NOT MUCH MORE, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, AND MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THE CAR LIKE DELOREAN HIMSELF LOOKED BEAUTIFUL ON THE OUTSIDE AND WAS VERY INSUBSTANTIAL ON THE INSIDE.

WHEN I WATCH YOU DO JOHN DELAWY DEL DELOREAN, I THINK OF YOU REALLY GETTING INTO CHARACTER AND THE ONE OF COURSE YOU DO NOW WHEN YOU'RE SO INTO THE CHARACTER IS DONALD TRUMP.

SO I'M BASICALLY TAKING MILITARY MONEY SO I CAN -- SO I'M GOING TO SIGN THESE PAPERS FOR EMERGENCY, AND THEN I'LL IMMEDIATELY BE SUED, AND THE RULING WILL NOT GO IN MY FAVOR, AND THEN I'LL GO TO THE SUPREME COURT, AND I'LL CALL MY BUDDY KAVANAUGH, AND I'LL SAY TIME TO REPAY THE DONNIE, AND HE'LL SAY NEW PHONE, WHO DIS?

IT'S SO FRESH.

IT'S SUCH A DICHOTOMY THE PEOPLE'S RESPONSE.

I HAVE PEOPLE, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO WILL MEET ME ARE VERY KIND, AND THEY SAY I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND THEY WALK UP AND WHISPER IT TO ME, AND THEY'RE VERY POLITE.

AND THEY SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HELPING US GET THROUGH THIS NIGHTMARE, AND THEN THERE'S PEOPLE TYPICALLY ONLINE WHO ARE FAR AWAY, WHO SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU SUCK, AND YOU'RE THE WORST IMPERSONATOR I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT TRULY I THOUGHT THAT THE THING ABOUT THE COLD OPENING ON THE SHOW, WHICH YOU ARE LITERALLY FIRING A CANNON.

IT ALWAYS ENDS WITH ME SAYING LIVE FROM NEW YORK IT'S SATURDAY NIGHT, AND WHETHER YOU'RE CO-STARS OR MEMBERS OF A COMPANY LIKE KATE OR BECK OR THEIR OTHER GUEST STARTS LIKE BEN STILLER OR DE NIRO AND SO FORTH, THERE'S A PACE AND THERE'S A VITALITY TO IT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALLOW FOR THE MOST PRECISE TRUMP IMPERS IMPERSONATION.

RIGHT.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A FIGURE OF TRUMP, WE'RE DOING LIKE AN ESSENCE OF TRUMP, HIS CORRUPT, AMORAL, MACHIAVELLIAN NATURE IS AT THE FORE, AND DOING A REAL TRUMP, THAT'S FOR ANOTHER PROJECT.

WELL, IN SOME WAYS, FROM LONG ISLAND, YOU GREW UP IN THIS MILIEU, YOU KIND OF GET TRUMP IT SEEMS TO ME.

I MEAN, DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS GUY?

NO, I DON'T.

I MEAN, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.

FROM MY PODCAST, I HOSTED AN EPISODE THAT WE DID WITH MICHAEL WOLF, AND IT WAS AT THE CREST OF THAT FIRE AND FURY RELEASE OF HIS BOOK, AND WE WERE AT TOWN HALL.

AND I REMEMBER SAYING THIS THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES, WHICH YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I DO, YOU'RE A HISTORIAN, YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I DO THAT THIS IS A VISTA LIKE NO OTHER IN LIFE.

YOU HAVE A JOB IN WHICH YOU SEE THE KIND OF PA NA PLEA OF LIFE GOOD AND BAD, WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING INCLUDING OUR OWN COUNTRY, AND YOU MEET THE CREME DE LA CREME OF SOCIETY THINKERS, ATHLETES, ARTISTS, MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN, YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THE WORLD IN A WAY THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S HAD THE JOB THIS SEAT HAS CHANGED THEM, EXCEPT TRUMP.

TRUMP IS THE ONLY MAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY THAT THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES HAS HAD NO EFFECT ON HIM WHATSOEVER.

IT HASN'T CHANGED HIM.

I THOUGHT HE WOULD CHANGE.

AFTER HE WON, WHICH WAS HORRIFYING TO ME, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE A NEW YORKER, YOU'RE ON TO TRUMP.

HE'S NOT THE HOST OF 'THE APPRENTICE' WHO'S FOOLED THESE FLY OVER AMERICANS THAT HE'S THIS CRACK BUSINESSMAN, WE KIND OF KNOW THAT HE'S SOMETHING ELSE, BUT EVEN SO WHEN HE WON I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, HE'S GOING TO CHANGE.

GIVE IT A YEAR, AND WE'LL SEE A DIFFERENT TRUMP, AND NO.

HE'S THE SAME NOW, WHICH THIS IS THE REAL TRAGEDY.

HE'S EXACTLY THE SAME TODAY AS HE WAS BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2016.

YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT THE FLY OVER AMERICANS, THOUGH.

DO YOU -- YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE RESENTMENT A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL IN THIS COUNTRY THAT LEADS TO A DONALD TRUMP.

WHEN I SAY FLY OVER AMERICANS, I MEAN THAT'S A SHOW BUSINESS TERM IN TERMS OF DEMOGRAPHICS.

I DON'T MEAN THAT WITH ANY -- IN ANY PEJORATIVE SENSE.

I MEAN I -- BUT I MEAN, I LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE NOBODY WATCHED 'THE APPRENTICE' NOBODY I KNOW IN THE WORLD I LIVED IN WATCHED 'THE APPRENTICE.'

IT WAS A TEDIOUS SILLY SHOW THAT WAS ON THE AIR AND MADE A LOT OF MONEY.

BUT THE IDEA THAT YOU'D SHOW AN EDITED VERSION OF THIS KIND OF HYPER STYLIZED REALITY SHOW AND SAY THAT'S WHO THAT GUY IS, THIS IS ACTING.

THERE WAS AN ARTICLE WHICH I'M SURE YOU SAW THAT MELISSA McFARQUHAR WROTE IN 'THE NEW YORKER' ABOUT KENTUCKY AND WEST VIRGINIA.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE SAYING.

THEY WERE SAYING WE DON'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT TRUMP OR ADMIRE TRUMP, BUT WE KNOW HOW MUCH YOU HATE HIM, ELITES, NORTHEASTERN ELITES IN THEIR MIND, AND THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO SAY F YOU TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, WHICH I FOUND NUMBING.

HE HAS A LOT OF QUIRKS IN HIS -- THE WAY HE LOOKS AND TALKS, AND YOU'VE MASTERED THEM.

I MEAN IT IS, WHEN YOU COME ON COLD ON 'SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE', IT'S LIKE YOU'RE DOING JOHN DELOREAN.

SHOW ME SOME OF THE TRICKS.

SHOW ME HOW YOU DO IT.

JUST WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES YOU ABLE TO?

WHAT WE DO IS A CARICATURE.

WE DON'T REALLY GO FOR A -- IT'S LIKE STEVE BROADNER, EVERYTHING IS AN EXAGGERATION.

THE THING ABOUT TRUMP WAS HE JUST ALWAYS LOOKED MISERABLE.

THAT WAS THE KEY.

JUST HAVE YOUR FACE, SOMEONE WOULD SAY IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY OUTSIDE.

IS IT?

IS IT REALLY BEAUTIFUL?

IS IT A BEAUTIFUL DAY?

THERE'S NOTHING PEOPLE CAN SAY THAT CAN CHANGE YOU FROM THIS DEEP, DEEP UNHAPPINESS THAT I THINK HE LIVES IN ALL THE TIME.

IT'S JUST NOT GOING THE WAY HE IMAGINED.

HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT HAVE BEEN TREATED THIS WAY?

I MEAN, EVEN REAGAN LIBERALS, DEMOCRATS, PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T AGREE, THEY BACKED OFF.

THEY DIDN'T SAY UNKIND THINGS AND SAY OH, HE'S GOT ALZHEIMER'S.

THEY LAID OFF OUT OF SOME RESPECT FOR THE OFFICE, IF NOT THE MAN.

GEORGE W. BUSH, THEY STARTED TO GIVE HIM A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT OF THE ILL LEGITIMACY OF THE ELECTION IN FLORIDA IN 2000 I THINK FUELED SOME OF THAT, BUT WITH TRUMP I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY THAT HELD THIS OFFICE BE TREATED THE WAY THIS GUY IS, IT'S UNCANNY.

DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS GOTTEN SO JANG LED BY TRUMP THAT THEY'RE IN DANGER OF FRAGMENTING, GOING OFF THE DEEP END, NOT HAVING A REAL MESSAGE THAT APPEALS TO THE PEOPLE IN AMERICA ABOUT WHERE WE GO NEXT?

WELL, I THINK TRUMP HAS HAD AN EFFECT ON THEM, AND PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN YOUR ORDINARY INCUMBENT R.EPUBLICAN, BUT I SAID RECENTLY ONLINE I'D LOVE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND I VIEWED BEATING TRUMP AS SOMETHING THAT WAS EASY TO DO, AND I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND HAVE A VERY TIGHT MESSAGE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, LIKE IF YOU COME INTO THE HOSPITAL AND YOU BREAK EVERY BONE IN YOUR BODY BUT YOU PUNCTURED AN ARTERY, WE HAVE TO FIX THE THING THAT'S GOING TO KILL YOU FIRST.

WE'LL SET ALL YOUR BONES LATER.

THIS COUNTRY HAS TO PRIORITIZE ITS NEEDS.

LET'S SAY THERE'S TEN THINGS YOU WANT BUT FIVE THINGS YOU NEED, AND WE MUST DO THE FIVE THINGS WE NEED, FIRST HEALTH CARE, IMMIGRATION, EDUCATION, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, INFRASTRUCTURE.

A I'VE GOT MY OWN LIST, BUT THE -- BUT WHEN YOU HEAR A SPECIFIC LEFT LEANING DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES AND PROGRESSIVE CANDIDATES TALKING ABOUT THESE BUFFET TABLES THEY WANT TO SET UP OF PUBLIC POLICY WITHOUT ONE WORD ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO KILL THE PARTY IN THE NEXT ELECTION.

SO YOU SERIOUSLY HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT RUNNING.

MIGHT YOU ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT DOING THIS IN THE COMING YEAR?

I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT, I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO -- IT'S TWO THINGS.

ONE, I WOULD LOVE TO BE THE PRESIDENT, AND I THINK I WOULD BE A GOOD PRESIDENT BECAUSE I THINK I GET IT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS I DON'T KNOW.

NEARLY ALL THOSE MEN CAME INTO OFFICE, AND THERE'S THINGS THEY DIDN'T KNOW.

TH I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE THAT WHAT THEY HAVE THAT I DON'T HAVE I CAN GET, BUT WHAT I HAVE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY CAN'T GET, WHICH IS A WORLD VIEW THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO MOVE TOWARD HELPING THE GREATEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

NOW, THE -- DO I THINK I WOULD ACTUALLY DO IT?

PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE IT'S SO CROWDED NOW, AND THE MEDIA IS KIND OF ON BOARD WITH RIGHT AWAY ANOINTING THIS ONE SOUNDS GOOD.

HERE'S A POLL.

THIS ONE'S NOT DOING SO WELL.

THE GAME THAT THE MEDIA DOES VERY OFTEN, WHICH IS THAT -- AND I THINK IF I RAN THEY WOULD KILL ME.

THEY WOULD JUST KILL ME, EVEN THOUGH A COMEDIAN WHO IMITATES THE PRESIDENT JUST WON THE PRESIDENCY IN THE UKRAINE.

THAT WAS VERY INSPIRING TO ME.

YOU'VE HAD AN AMAZINGLY ECLECTIC CAREER.

I FIRST BECAME A FAN WHEN WE WERE YOUNG AND I SAW YOU PLAY 'A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE' ON STAGE.

YOU PLAYED STANLEY KOWALSKI, GOT THAT THAT CHARACTER.

TELL ME ABOUT THE ARC OF YOUR CAREER.

I THINK IT MAY BE THE MOST ECLECTIC CAREER EVER, STAGE SHOWS, TO GAME SHOWS TO SOFTBALL PLAYER TO PODCASTER TO AUTHOR.

THERE WAS NO PLAN IN THE SENSE THAT THERE'S A -- THERE'S A WAY YOU CAN WORK IN THIS BUSINESS AND LET'S SAY -- IT'S NOT A LONG LIST, BUT THERE MIGHT BE THREE OR FOUR THINGS, WHICH ARE GOOD ADVICE, IF YOU WANT TO SUCCEED.

I THINK THAT ONE OF THOSE THINGS, IF I EVEN TELL PEOPLE FROM TIME TO TIME IS DON'T BECOME TOO POLITICALLY OUTSPOKEN.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE BIGGEST MOVIE STARS IN THE WORLD TODAY ARE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEIR POLITICS.

IT'S VERY PRIVATE, BUT TO GO AND BECOME VERY PARTISAN AND TO GO AND BECOME VERY VOCAL, ATTACKING A PRESIDENT WHO HAS THE SUPPORT OF SOME SIGNIFICANT SWATCH OF THE COUNTRY IS ALWAYS A RISK.

I MEAN, I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN FIRED FROM JOBS.

I'VE LOST JOBS.

YOU HAD THE MESSY DIVORCE WITH KIM BASINGER AND THE FIGHT OVER CUSTODY, WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM THAT?

WHAT I LEARNED, AND I'VE TOLD PEOPLE BEFORE IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN COURT, BE PATIENT TO LET THE BITTERNESS LEAK OUT AND TO EBB BECAUSE IF YOU DO WHAT I DID -- AND I MENTIONED THIS IN THE BOOK -- WHICH IS TO WIN A RULING AND THEN IN MONTHS GO BACK TO TRY AND EXPAND YOUR RULING AND ANTAGONIZE THE OTHER SIDE, THE OTHER LAWYERS AND THEIR PARTY VIEW IT AS A COMPETITION.

DON'T SETTLE FOR THE BOILERPLATE YOU GET AND WAIT, AND JUST LIVE WITH IT FOR A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS.

YOU'RE ENTITLED TO MORE.

YOU KNOW YOU'RE ENTITLED TO MORE, BUT LET THE ANGER SUBSIDE, WHICH I DID NOT DO.

I WENT IN EVERY THREE MONTHS SAYING I WANT MY RIGHTS, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT YOU REALIZE IS YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS AS FAR AS THE COURT IS CONCERNED.

YOU TALK ABOUT LETTING YOUR ANGER SUBSIDE.

DID THAT HELP YOU MANAGE, YOU KNOW YOU USED TO GET IN FIGHTS A WHOLE LOT, HAVE ANGER PROBLEMS AND STUFF, HAS THAT HELPED YOU SORT OF WITH THE FAMILY CALM THAT DOWN NOW?

WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS THING HAPPENED WITH THIS GUY IN FRONT OF MY BUILDING WHERE THEY SAID I PUNCHED THIS GUY.

WHAT'S REALLY SAD FOR ME IS THERE'S CAMERAS EVERYWHERE AND I GUESS WE'RE ABOUT TO GO MAYBE INTO SOME CIVIL PROCEEDING, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I FEEL BADLY IN THE SENSE THAT THIS GUY'S WASTING HIS TIME AND MY TIME, BUT THERE'S CAMERAS EVERYWHERE THAT DISPUTE.

I MEAN, HE LIED TO THE POLICE.

IF HE SAYS THAT I PUNCHED HIM IN THE FACE, THAT'S A LIE BUT WHAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, NUMBER ONE, ANY PHYSICAL ALTERCATION THAT YOU GET INTO WITH PEOPLE LIKE THAT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA, BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM I'VE HAD HAS BEEN WITH A TABLOID, PAPARAZZI MEDIA MEMBER AND THERE WAS A PROVOCATION INVOLVED.

I HAVE NEVER -- I MEAN, I DON'T THINK I COULD SURVIVE IN MY BUSINESS.

I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ALTERCATION WITH SOMEBODY IN THAT QUADRANT OF THE MEDIA THAT WASN'T PROVOKED.

IF A GUY IS ACROSS THE STREET WITH A LONG LENS, I DON'T GO RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET AND SAY HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING, BUT MEN WHO HAVE COME TO MY HOME DURING SPECIFIC EVENTS IN MY LIFE, AND THEY ALMOST CHIPPED MY WIFE'S TEETH WITH THE LENS OF A CAMERA SNAPPING IT IN HER FACE.

ANYTHING LIKE THAT WHERE YOU GET PROVOKED AND YOU CROSS A LINE, YOU LOSE.

YOU'RE THE LOSER.

WHAT IS YOUR ASPIRATION?

WHAT WOULD BE THE GREAT THING YOU'D LOVE TO DO IN A FEW YEARS WHEN YOU'RE READY TO DO SOMETHING BIG?

NEXT YEAR IN 2020, I WILL HAVE DONE THIS FOR 40 YEARS.

NOW WHAT I WANT TO DO I DON'T KNOW.

MY WIFE AND I ARE THINKING ABOUT MAYBE MOVING OVERSEAS FOR LIKE A LITTLE HOLIDAY, LIKE A YEAR TO LIVE IN SPAIN BECAUSE MY WIFE IS FROM SPAIN.

WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF IDEAS OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE MIGHT DO BECAUSE I'M 61.

I HAVE A 5-YEAR-OLD, A 3-YEAR-OLD, A 2-YEAR-OLD, AND AN 11-MONTH-OLD.

SO I WANT TO MAKE THE MOST OF THE TIME I HAVE LEFT AND AS MY FRIEND SAID, WHEN I TURN 60 HE SAID REMEMBER THAT YOU HAVE -- YOU STILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME BUT NONE TO WASTE.

ALEC BALDWIN, THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

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Christiane Amanpour speaks with former FBI Special Agent Michael German about the recent synagogue shooting; author Yascha Mounk about the state of Western democracy; and activist Varshini Prakash about climate change. Walter Isaacson speaks with actor Alec Baldwin about his career.

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