01.31.2019

Fawzia Koofi on the Future of Afghanistan

Afghan member of parliament Fawzia Koofi discusses a possible breakthrough in America’s longest war as the Taliban agree to the outlines of a peace deal, and what a return to Taliban rule would mean for women in Afghanistan.

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YOU KNOW, CHRISTIANE, I THINK WHAT MAKES THE CURRENT SITUATION DIFFERENT IS THERE IS A KIND OF CONSENSUS ON THE URGENCY FOR A PEACE IN AFGHANISTAN.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO FINALLY END THE 40 YEARS OF WAR WHICH WE HAVE HAD AND YOU WERE HERE DURING THE TALIBAN SO YOU KNOW HOW THE -- THE PAIN THE PEOPLE OF AFGHANISTAN WENT THROUGH.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT VIEWS.

ONE IS THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF AFGHANISTAN WHO OPPOSED THE PEACE PROCESS, AND HE HAS HIS OWN ISSUES BECAUSE HE WILL HAVE AN ELECTION AND SEES THE POWER AND THE CONTINUATION OF HIS JOB AT RISK.

THEN THERE'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION AT THE AFRICAN POLITICAL ELITES AND PEOPLE AND ESPECIALLY WOMEN AND ACTIVISTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE OF THEIR ENGAGEMENT IF A POLITICAL DEAL IS TO BE MADE, AND, YOU KNOW, I LIVED ALL MY LIFE IN AFGHANISTAN, INCLUDING DURING THE TALIBAN TIME AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

TALIBAN BASICALLY DURING THE TIME WOMEN'S PRESENCE WAS REDUCED TO MINIMUM AND THEY WERE BASICALLY INVISIBLE.

AND THEN I THINK THE POSITION OF TALIBAN IN THIGHS PEACE TALKS THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TALK TO THE AFGHAN AND THE AFTERNOON GAN WOMEN AND THEY WANT THE THE ISLAMIC RIGHTS FOR WOMEN.

SOMEONE WHO LIVED DURING THE TALIBAN AND I KNOW WHAT THEIR INTERPRETATION IS, WE'RE VERY MUCH WORRIED, ESPECIALLY THAT WE HAVE GAINED SO MUCH OVER THE PAST 18 YEARS.

THE SOCIETY IN AFGHANISTAN HAS TRANSFORMED TO THE LEVEL THAT IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO BRING IT BACK TO THE TIME WHERE WE STARTED IN TUITE WHEN THE TALIBAN GOVERNMENT WAS JUST WITHDRAWN SO I THINK, YES, WE WANT A PEACE, BUT AN INCLUSIVE PEACE WHERE THE PUBLIC AND, OF COURSE, WHERE THE PUBLIC AND THE WOMEN VOICES ARE HEARD AND THEY ARE PART OF THE PROCESS.

RIGHT. AND FOR THE ISSUES THE HAVE ACHIEVED AND GAINED SHOULD BE REGARDED AS NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES.

HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS TO BE A PROCESS BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND THE AS YOU'VE SAID THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT IS NOT INCLUDED YET AND WOMEN ARE NOT INCLUDED AROUND THE PEACE TABLE.

AND AT THE SAME TIME PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS THAT HE WILL PULL OUT THE FORCES IF THERE IS A SUSTAINABLE PEACE DEAL, AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S -- THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THE FORCES BACK.

WHAT IS THE RISK TO YOU RIGHT NOW, DO YOU THINK?

I UNDERSTAND PERHAPS THERE ARE MANY ANTI-AFGHANISTAN PEOPLE WHO WANT THE U.S. TROOPS TO BE PULLED OUT BUT IF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY WAS IN

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Christiane Amanpour speaks with Juan Guaidó about his fight to oust Venezuelan President Maduro; Lawrence Wilkerson about President Trump’s disagreements with his staff; and Afghan MP Fawzia Koofi about the state of affairs in Afghanistan. Walter Isaacson speaks with Zhang Xin, CEO of SOHO China, about U.S.-China relations and her remarkable past.

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