09.12.2018

Jerry Brown

As Hurricane Florence bears down on the Carolina coast, the UN Chief warns the climate crisis is near the point of no return. California Governor Jerry Brown, who is leading the fight to save our environment, joins the program.

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So Governor I'm hearing you say it's stalled.

And to me it's a little bit of a shock because even after President Trump pulled the United States out last year of the of the of the Paris Climate Accords you and others like Mayor Bloomberg were saying but hang on a second the United States is still going for it.

It's a cities and state thing and we're still leading the way.

But now you're saying it's stalling in other countries as well.

Why is that? Is that because they've got a pass from the United States?

No.

You have an economy that is based on oil gas and coal.

The very essence of modernity is fossil fuel.

So trying to get off that doesn't have happened with a bill or the snap of one's fingers.

This takes a growing understanding a scientific research and development and massive trillions of dollars investment in new technology clean energy and different patterns of land use. California is doing a lot.

This week we're doing even more with our 100 percent commitment of renewable electricity.

But the emissions are going up in Germany in China and India and all over the world.

So this is a real threat but unlike war we don't see the enemy the enemy is catching up with us.

But it's obscure enough and global enough that any individual company is slow to react and that's why the subnational jurisdictions states cities and regions are stepping up to the plate.

At this global summit in San Francisco.

But that's just one more step.

We need a thousand steps from this day forward and continuously over the next several decades to get to zero carbon emissions.

If we don't we're going to have deaths we're going to have mass migrations will make the European migrations look like a tea party.

We're facing big big dangers and changes.

Unfortunately we can't see them.

Fortunately they're not here.

But unfortunately we can't grasp it in our imagination to make the concrete financial and political moves and decisions that will forestall this horror that is coming down our way.

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Christiane Amanpour interviews Jerry Brown, Governor of California; Lisa Brennan-Jobs, author of “Small Fry” and daughter of Steve Jobs; and Paul Krugman Nobel Prize-winning Economist and New York Times columnist. Alicia Menendez interviews Michael Arceneaux, author of “I Can’t Date Jesus.”

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