Lisa Brennan-Jobs Discusses Her New Memoir “Small Fry”

Lisa Brennan-Jobs, daughter of the late tech pioneer Steve Jobs, wrestles with her complicated childhood and strained relationship with her father in her new memoir, “Small Fry.” She joins to discuss coming to terms with their relationship and her childhood.

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Every sentence everything you're saying to me now is all about trying to establish that connection and trying to feel less alienated.

Yes. How did it end for you. How did.

Did you have a verbal resolution on his deathbed.

We had a sort of totally unexpected and very meaningful I think kind of Hollywood ending.

I mean you never think you could never put it in fiction right because it's too strange where he was apologizing for not having spent more time.

And for how difficult it was.

And saying this phrase that I thought was so odd I owe you one I owe you one I thought hmm.

What does that mean?

And I knew that I would have to take it with me carry it with me and bring it back to my life and understand it maybe even over years what it meant to me.

He has dominated our lives for the last 30 plus years with his inventions hooking us on to these incredibly beautiful pieces of technology that really.

Life you can't imagine without him. And he's done his share of commencement addresses and he's tried to inspire and galvanize other people.

Just want to play a little bit from the very famous speech he gave commencement address at Stanford University in 2005.

Your work is going to fill a large part of your life and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work.

And the only way to do great work is to love what you do.

If you haven't found it yet keep looking and don't settle.

As with all matters of the heart you'll know when you find it.

And like any great relationship it just gets better and better as the years roll on.

So keep looking.

Don't settle.

How does it make you feel to see this man who is your father give so much to so many younger generations and really try to embrace them and move them across their own finish line.

I think just hearing you say that even now it just sounds magnificent it sounds so meaningful and I'm so proud of that.

I think that in the book it's it's more complicated because I had to share him and I talk about at his memorial people coming up to me and saying saying it felt like a father to me and thinking oh you know I'm so glad he felt like a father to you.

Sometimes he felt like a father to me and other times he didn't.

And how it maybe was more complicated being on the inside of that.

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