Dance in America: San Francisco Ballet's Nutcracker

San Francisco Ballet makes the beloved Nutcracker its own, resetting it during the 1915 Panama Pacific International Exhibition and introducing Dance in America viewers to the dazzling Maria Kochetkova and Davit Karapetyan. Recorded in December 2007 by KQED Public Television to help commemorate the company’s 75th anniversary, the work is choreographed by Artistic Director Helgi Tomasson and features sets and costumes by, respectively, Michael Yeargan and Martin Pakledinaz, both repeat Tony Award-winning designers. “Striking, elegant and beautiful,” assessed The New York Times.

Introduced by Olympic champion figure skater Kristi Yamaguchi, a native of the Bay Area and winner of 2008’s Dancing with the Stars, the production encores in high definition and 5.1 surround sound Sunday, December 12 at 9pm EST (check local listings) on THIRTEEN’s Great Performances on PBS. San Francisco Ballet Music Director and Principal Conductor Martin West conducts Tchaikovsky’s sprightly score.

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Tchaikovsky’s beguiling score is one of the most popular pieces of music ever written. Think “Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy” and “Waltz of the Snowflakes.” Inspired by E.T.A. Hoffman’s 1816 story, The Nutcracker and The Mouse King, it was first proposed to Tchaikovsky by legendary choreographer Marius Petipa as a follow-up to Tchaikovsky’s other successful ballets at Russia’s famed Mariinsky Theatre: Swan Lake (1877) and The Sleeping Beauty (1890). The composer began work on it in 1891.

San Francisco Ballet’s Nutcracker was recorded on stage in performance at the War Memorial Opera House December 19 and 21, 2007. It is a co-production of San Francisco Ballet and KQED Public Television San Francisco, in association with Thirteen for WNET.ORG. Matthew Diamond (Dance in America’s Emmy Award-winning Swan Lake with American Ballet Theatre; Great Performances’ Crazy for You) directs; Judy Flannery (Great Performances’ A Streetcar Named Desire From the San Francisco Opera) produced. Michael Isip is Executive Producer for KQED.

An expanded version of San Francisco Ballet’s Nutcracker, featuring additional behind-the-scenes interviews with the production’s creators and a background piece on the 1915 World’s Fair, is available on DVD from Opus Arte/Naxos of America.

Great Performances is funded by the Irene Diamond Fund, the National Endowment for the Arts, Vivian Milstein, the LuEsther T. Mertz Charitable Trust, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, public television viewers and PBS. Major corporate funding for this telecast was provided by First Republic Bank, a division of Merrill Lynch Bank & Trust, Co., FSB. Special funding for the telecast was provided by Jim and Cecilia Herbert & Family. Additional support was provided by The Flora Family Foundation and members of the San Francisco Ballet’s 75th Anniversary Sponsors Council: major sponsors include the Richard and Rhoda Goldman Fund, The Hellman Family and Yurie and Carl Pascarella; with additional sponsors including Stuart Francis and Diana Stark; Stephen and Margaret Gill Family Foundation; Cecilia and Jim Herbert; George Frederick Jewett Foundation, Lucille Jewett, Trustee; Barbara Ravizza and John Osterweis; Kathleen Scutchfield; The Smelick Family; The Swanson Foundation; Ms. Susan A. Van Wagner; E.L. Wiegand Foundation; Diane B. Wilsey; and Akiko Yamazaki and Jerry Yang.

  • Hagan Thomas

    Is this the same S.F. Ballet Company that did the completely engrossing and entertaining all male Cinderella several, as in many, years ago I think also shown on PBS?
    How I would love to see that again too.

  • Laurie Logan Hudson

    Will the San Francisco Ballet Nutcracker be repeated and when? I want to view it but cannot watch tonight and am unable to record it.

  • Chryl McFatter

    This is a beautiful performance. I highly recommend it to anyone. Our family, took part in our own local Nutcracker performance this year. We will never forget it. I hope to order this performance for our family to watch again.

  • Catherine Schneider-Lewis

    Wonderful, wonderful performance of our most dear Nutcracker Ballet. I LOVE the tie to the 1915 world’s fair in San Francisco. It all seems so very appropriate and this performance was so very well done!! Thank you!!

  • Selma Thackeray

    I found the San Francisco production of Nutcracker excellent and fascinating. Unfortunately, I lost the second half and wonder if it will be broadcast again, this year or next. If not scheduled, please consider it as it is worth the repetition. Thank you. ST

  • Jonieta Stone

    Magnificent! A beautiful production. We loved it! Thank you, thank you.

  • Paul Eckstein

    Absolutely fabulous production. I have not seen the Russian ballet productions, but this has to be the most imaginative and most beautiful one I have ever seen in America.

  • k8 Conwell-Doyle

    This is the loveliest production I have ever seen! I was mesmerized…..

  • christy heinrich

    how do i get a copy? I took my step daughter to a rendition here in Reno, and we have made it our tradition. This performance was incredible and I want to give it to her for Christmas 2008….where and how do i do that?

  • Lezlie Murray

    I never grow tired of the Nutcracker, but the San Francisco Ballet has made it new again. The dancing is delightful and the sets and costumes are delightful in every way. Thank you to PBS for airing this truly wonderful performance!



  • Hannah Henson

    I loved the show! It was so beautiful.

  • Cat

    I watched this last night and it was so beautiful but I was not able to see it in its entirety. Thank you for airing it as it was such a treat and please play again if you’re able!

  • Richard Culver

    We have watched the Nutcracker since our daughter was a little ballerina. This is probably the best interpretation we have ever seen. Thank you.

  • SW

    That was The Best version of The Nutcracker I have ever seen. The sets, costumes, choreography, dancers – it was just magnificent. Plus rerun it often this Xmas season – and seasons to come.

  • Norma Sars

    Absolutely stunning – one of the loveliest!

  • Gary B

    Please, can we have an encore showing! Awesome

  • Chrissi

    Absolutely stunning, I was moved to tears several times, it’s rare that a recorded performance captures the artistry and beauty that faithfully.

  • AN

    Magnificent, Amazing, Incredible…there aren’t enough words!

  • Elizabeth

    I was unable to watch or record this production and I would like to know if it will be on air again.

  • SIW

    I loved this performance. It was amazing, I am a male ballet dancer. I had ballet practice and couldn’t view the whole thing. All I say was Maria Kotchetkova;s Pas de Deux. PLEASE, air it again on popular demand. In my town they are playing Butler University Ballet’s Nutcracker over and over again. That’s nice, but I think people would like to see the amazing San Francisco Ballet much more. Thanks.

  • Adrian Tinsley

    Please show this more than once. When will it be shown again? How can it be purchased?

  • cecilia chang

    How can I get a copy. Please let me know, if you are going to play again on PBS.

  • Sue Peters

    Bring it back please…we missed it an know our girls would love it..rebroadcast???

  • Gary Webb

    Norma is right–absolutely stunning! This is the best I’ve seen by a long shot. Karapetyan is another Nuryev. Wow, we may have our own Bolshoi!

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  • joycelevy

    It was magical!. I am 80 years old and have seen manym many productions of the Nutcracker, but this was the finest. The fresh approach to the music, the dancing, the sets,all were wonderful. Thank you for the gift of the year.

  • Barbara Herndon

    The San Francisco Ballet version of the Nutcracker was the absolute best! Please tell me how I can purchase a DVD.

  • Denise

    I agree with Chrissi. I can’t remember the last time I cried through a ballet. I am ordering the DVD!

  • Stephanie

    I have 2, four year old children who are ENGROSSED in this program for the SECOND time today. Bravo, SF Ballet and PBS for airing it! (Their parents have also enjoyed it…twice.)

  • Patti

    I want to see this episode, however the scheduled time in my area aired Luciano Pavaratti instead. Can anyone tell me when it will air today?

  • olen

    I was absolutely blown away. By far the best Nutcracker I have ever seen in my life and I wasn’t even there in person. And I can’t believe it, but I was actually moved to tears by its beauty. Deeply touching. A timeless classic has been revived and refreshed to be discovered completely anew. Wow.

  • kelsey walker

    I love this I saw it like last week, a few days after the nutcracker that I was in.

  • Paul & Mary Biittner

    Great performance, we want to buy the video but the info flashed across the screen too fast for us to get the telephone #.

  • Bunny Lee

    When I saw the previews, Mother Ginger caught my eye. My granddaughter, Ruby Borden, appeared in a local production as a buffoon who cartwheeled from and back to Mother Ginger’s skirt. SF’s Mother Ginger is a bit different, and the Teddy Bear was wondeful. Ruby was a Sugar Angel last year. I called her and let her know this was on. Mother Ginger is not included in many local N’s because the costume is a bit tricky. ALL of the dancers were amazing, professional and lovely. Ribbon Candy was so colorful! Thank YOU. I saw the Sunday, 12/21 showing, so hoping to see it one more time this season. Please? Gramma Bunny

  • Penny

    It was beautiful … please run it again.

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  • Lauren

    Being a dancer, this was the best Performance I have ever seen. Could you please run it again before Christmas.

  • Garcia

    What a wonderful treat for television and a real feast for the eyes. I thoroughly enjoyed the show! Thanks to PBS for airing this wonderful program. Please show it again and again.

  • Anne B

    A wonderful Nutcracker. The updated choreography was traditional but more modern and had a lovely flow. The sets and costumes are superb.

  • barbara

    customes were exquisite. sets were stunning with simplicity and dancers were astounding.

  • Agnes

    Please bring it back. I missed it this time. I think the SFB is one of the best companies around.

  • Anissa

    For all of those who didn’t see it or just wish to purchase it, it’s available on Amazon!

    By far the best video version of the Nutcracker I’ve ever seen!

  • johnatlanta

    It was absolutely incredible. Bravo! I enjoyed it greatly, please repeat it. The production was mesmerizing.

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  • Caitlyn

    When will it be shown again? I can’t believe i missed it!

  • Wendy

    I am one more person who was so moved by San Francisco ballet’s dazzlingly beautiful Nutcracker…..( I just saw the Kirov ballet’s performance last week…I didn’t think it possible, but I think this production surpassed it….So…. such as exquisite thing of GREATNESS deserves another airing VERY SOON PLEASE–I can’t wait!! Would appreciate an e-mail as to it’s next showing. Thanks, and WOW.

  • S. J. Attwood

    I missed seeing the whole episode. Will it be aired again, please? And if so, when? so I won’t miss it again. Most inspiring performance. Thanks.

  • Sammye

    Wonderful, beautiful, marvelous performance! I absolutely adore the snow scene. I saw the Cincinnati Ballet perform “The Nutcracker” this week and if you live in the Cincy area, be glad to have a world class ballet (thank you, Victoria Morgan–via SF!) with live music (thank you, Carmon DeLeone for 40 years of service!) that rivals the one in San Francisco! Here is a link for those of you who said you wanted to purchase the SF production:

  • e gardner

    When will this air again?

  • Sammye

    Depends on your PBS Station, I think but i found this:

    Great Performances: Dance in America: San Francisco Ballet’s `Nutcracker’
    Tuesday, January 6, 9:00pm
    A San Francisco Ballet production of “The Nutcracker.”

    Great Performances: Dance in America: San Francisco Ballet’s `Nutcracker’
    Wednesday, January 7, 3:00am
    A San Francisco Ballet production of “The Nutcracker.”

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  • Gabriela

    Is this available to purchase? I had recorded it from PBS before Christmas and it got erased! Please let me know how to order it.

  • Alvin – Atlanta GA

    A master piece !!!

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  • M. L. Grant

    All I can say is that I want a DVD of this performance. How can I get one?

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  • Lynn Campbell

    This is the best performance of Nutcracker that I have ever seen! I too felt I was watching another Nureyev – and Ms. Kotchetkova was absolutely exquisite. And her lovely face reminded me of the incomparable Audrey Hepburn! Thank you for an unforgettable evening.

  • Sara, Canada

    Beautiful – loved the settings, dancing and costumes – and all the children. Didn’t think I would see anything to match the Les Grands Ballets de Montreal production, but this one does. Thank you, SF Ballet.

  • Miranda

    im only 12 and ilove ballet and danced all my life but dis is da best of ballet i ever seen

  • Nanner Fisher

    Thank you PBS for sharing such a wonderful gift. Our entire family thoroughly enjoyed the fabulous performance of the SF Ballet’s Nutcracker. What a beautiful way to spend an evening together. Thank you.

  • Nanner

    Post ID #428. Please change my rating to a five star. I didn’t understand that where I clicked on it would rate the number of stars and I gave it a 1 by accident. It was definately a 5-star performance! Thank you!




    I saw this ballet in my country (GUATEMALA) my father the good and culture life I want show to my kids the same but I can’t afford somebody has a free tickets, I have 6 kids and wife, we would like to go. thank you and GOD BLESS YOU. CALL ME IF YOU HAVE FREE TICKETS.
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  • alex n.

    Yes, it is available, but THE SCROOGES who run this website removed my post that GAVE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO’D LIKE TO BUY THIS THE PHONE NUMBER! Good grief…what a bunch of Ebenezer Idiots! BAH-HUMBUG!


  • britt petras

    A wonderful Nutcracker. I’m watching tonight again. I’ll bring out the chocholates, a glass of port and mandarines and it’s the best preamble to Christmas possible. Thank you PBS.

  • Wendy

    Wow, I haven’t seen SF Ballet in quite awhile and was so blown away by this performance! The dancers were superb and the choreography magnificent! I have to say that Davit Karapetyan captured my attention. It’s very unusual to happen as I generally watch the ballerinas, but he is just so elegant it was hard for me to take my eyes off of him! Kudos also to Yuan Yuan Tan and Maria Kochetkova. Yuan Yuan Tan was so beautiful she made my eyes water! And Maria Kochetkova … what can I say! Those running shoulder sits! The turns! Very difficult variations handled impeccably! The coda was magnificent also. And I wish the credits hadn’t rolled by so quickly as I would have liked to see who was who. PBS please slow them down! They’re an important part of the production and not just an afterthought to rush through!

  • Ron De Stefano

    Magnificant.Thank you.Please show it again.

  • Ann Rice

    This is a performance i want to keep! A copy of the show was advertised at the end of credits, but I missed getting the address. Since I’m in the hospital I don’t have a Visa handy, so please send me ordering info. Thanks much and know that WDCN is much appreciated. Ann Rice

  • Christy Grigsby

    I would like to order a copy of this. Can you please share with me how to obtain a copy. Thank you for sharing this wonderful production! Loved it.

  • Alex N.

    Well…I’ll try this again. If you’d like to buy the DVD of this, just go to the WNET PBS station website, and you can, with a little effort, find the info there. Good Lord, you people see how many Folks want to buy this, how about NOT removing my post with the info?

  • Marshall

    Brilliant! Magical! Outstanding!!
    I started watching and could not turn away.
    I know you can buy the DVD but I want to see it once more in HD.
    PLEASE show it again.

  • Gene Fisch

    In all my years watching ballet, and the “Nutcracker” in particular, I have never seen a more disappointing and worthless production. A transmogrified,, pointless affair from beginning to end. The costumes for 1915 America were not entirely correct; the choreography purposeless and limp; the overuse of children flailing about in almost every scene may please parents but is entirely inappropriate; the lack of character development; the disconnected narrative… In a word, AWFUL.

    Tchaikovsky’s christmas story has been transformed into an early 20th century day at the SF circus. The sense of class and privilege among the Russian elite is morphed into a 21st century interpretation of a middle-class family day outing in SF. In no way would an American child have been so doted upon in 1915. The lack of character development – Claire’s mischievous brother breaking the nutcracker, the dark side of the toymaker, Drosselmeyer – have been excised to display just a noisy, bratty brother and an unbelievable magician.

    The dream sequences – especially those with the evil mouse and the fight between good and evil – inexplicably arise in the first act. What is going on there?

    The narrative from one scene to the next is completely disjointed. The scenes that bring the exotic dancers from around the world to Russia – in this case, the SF fair – lack internal cohesion. The Chinese dragon does not dance. It merely swirls about. Why is it there? And what is that trio from India doing?

    The productions I’ve seen – the NYC Ballet under Balanchine’s direction, the performances by Marakova and Baryshnikov, the Royal Ballet from Covent Garden – were all orders of magnitude superior.

    It has been observed recently that the Nutcracker has become America’s ballet for christmas. Hundreds of productions are presented during these holidays, and my childhood has fond memories of it. However, this version of Nutcracker should be buried someplace where it cannot be shown again.

    Please, PLEASE, do NOT show it again. Awful, awful, awful.

  • Marora Goltsman

    Excellent,Magnificent,Outstanding Performance!!!
    The best I have ever seen. Please show it again.
    And thank you,thank you for the wonderful time I had wotching.

  • Marora Goltsman

    Excellent,Magnificent,Outstanding Performance!!!
    The best I have ever seen.
    And thank you,thank you for the wonderful time I had wotching.

  • K.Grant

    PLEASE show this again – it is magnificent.

  • Patricia Miller

    I truly appreciated the more “common man” approach the SF Ballet gave to their interpretation of “The Nutcracker”. The dancing was glorious as were the sets. I also appreciated the coda because so many other performances just end with the whole cast on the stage and there is no real completion to the dream sequence. It wasn’t the pure form of the Nutcracker but very, very enjoyable and delightful. The only thing I did not enjoy was the Mother Ginger sequence. I never, never like that part in any performance and would be very happy to see a performance without it!!

  • Margaret Seemann

    My daughter saw this performance and raved about it. Unfortunately, I missed it and have been trying to reach the site to order the DVD
    to no avail. Will this performance be shown again?
    When ? I would love to see it and get a copy for my granddaughters, who are learning to dance.

  • jerome

    repeat the nutcracker again!!!please

  • Constance D. James

    I have never seen a tape of anything as beautiful as The Blue Danube as you showed during Christmas Week. Can I possibly get a copy of this tape?

    Constance D. James

  • Wolfgang Beutner

    Is this ballet available on dvd?
    thank you

  • Maddie

    I watched this last year it was spectacular. I watched it probably 7 times over the holiday season. My cousin who was 2 at the time, was starting to get interested in dance. She was in a transe just watching, and moving her feet like the ballerinas. I LOVE THIS PERFORMANCE!

  • Brenda Vroom

    December 13, 2010
    I only saw half of the performance last night and it was wonderful. Will it be on again this season. I would love to watch the whole Nutcracker again. I was so sad that I only saw part of it. Please let me know if possible. Brenda Vroom

  • Ann Applegarth

    Beautiful! This magnificent production restores my faith that was shattered by the appallingly ugly Mikhail Shemiakin travesty. Thank you for making it so widely available to children and balletomanes throughout the U.S. I hope that you will repeat it every Christmas.

  • Stuart

    Late last night this segued from “Antiques Roadshow” and since I love the Nutcracker, I figured I’d watch a few minutes.

    Big mistake but no regrets: the grand Victorian settings in the first act, the Maurice Sendak-esque Mouse King dream world, and the spare but beautiful sets for the second act would have made this worth watching even if the players had staged a sit-down reading with scripts.

    But that didn’t happen. The dancing and choreography were exactly right, a blend of classical ballet with costumes and choreography that had me checking this morning whether Woodrow Wilson was still President. The evocation of the Fair in the second act was both effective and subtle, bringing focus back to the confection of dances that play out on the stage below.

    The orchestral arrangements were just my speed (not too fast, as I some Nutcracker recordings can tend to be). My only minor quibble was with the broadcast. For some reason, my local PBS signal does not come in with Dolby Digital surround, so I was unable to experience true 5.1 surround. This is a very minor point; this production was still glorious to watch in HD and stereo.

    Thanks for a great production, but any suggestions on how I’m supposed to get through this work day, now that I’ve gotten only two hours’ sleep?

  • elizaveta

    Gene Fisch, I echo every word.

  • Dorothy

    What about Lew Christensen’s even more magnificent production? The current version is an injustice, choreographically speaking, to all who dance it. Those poor company members. Please someone, revert to San Francisco’s legacy and traditions, dig deep into their repertoire and pull out the OLD gems!

  • John deCoville

    Hey! I do not want teasers, credits — I want the full Nutcracker

  • Solomon Kershaw

    Was only able to see the first half. Loved it!
    Are you able to schedule again after Dec 25th?

  • Medhat Mankarious

    My hate is off for such a great performance, gorgeous production, I use to think that nothing like the Russians in ballet, but this have exceeded any of my expectations, I hope you will repeat it again and again it was magnificent

  • Chris

    The Nutcracker is a story of a young girl’s awakening to sexuality. When the ballet is presented differently, as it so often is, the whole point is missed. There is really only ONE good Nutcracker. The version done by the Kirov with Larissa Lezhnina.. That is perfect. The rest are all travesties of what the ballet is all about. Buy the DVD of the Kirov and let the others pass.

  • Ellen

    IF you want to know WHO performed as what in this delightful production, there is a tab to the right of this page with “production credits,” which includes the performers. For those SCROOGES who DIDN’T like this version of the ballet, I HOPE you got coal in your stocking!!!! I hope all of you had a MERRY CHRISTMAS and that 2011 is GOOD to you!!!!!

  • Miguel

    great inspiration, great themes, and the final waltz is AMAZING !!!

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  • Coleen Wybranski

    I wish the San Francisco Ballet’s “Cinderella” from the 80s was still available. That was the BEST.

  • Ava Tigue

    This is awesome I can’t wait to learn more!

  • Jerri Clegg

    Hi, I wanted to purchase this specific version of The Nutcracker; I remembered seeing it on PBS. The hard part is there are more than one San Francisco Ballet ‘The Nutcracker’ versions. I watched this, above, and it is definitely the one that I watched and loved. Can you tell me how to single out this version somehow so I can purchase it? Thanks very much.

    Jerri C.

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