Cloud: Wild Stallion of the Rockies
Interview: Filmmaker Ginger Kathrens

Ginger KathrensProducer and cinematographer of Cloud: Wild Stallion of the Rockies, Ginger Kathrens is an Emmy award-winning producer/director with experience in feature films and TV documentaries, commercials and national public service announcements, political campaigns, sports programs, and educational films. Her documentary filmmaking trips have taken her to Africa, Asia, Europe, Central and South America, and all over the U.S. She is the President of Taurus Productions, Inc., a company with a 25-year commitment to quality production. Ginger Kathrens is also the author of the book Cloud: Wild Stallion of the Rockies.

NATURE Online spoke to Ms. Kathrens in October 2001 about the making of the program:

How did the Cloud project come about?

In 1993, Marty Stouffer, the producer and host of PBS’ WILD AMERICA, asked me to work on a show about wild horses. I said that was great, but then when I hung up the phone, I realized that I knew nothing about wild horses. I’ve ridden horses all my life and I had horses as a kid, but I really and truly did not know anything about wild ones. So I set out to find out about them.

One of my location scouting trips, in 1994, was to an area in southern Montana, an area the Crow Indians call the Arrowhead Mountains. My sister and I happened on this location and early one morning we went out and we saw a black stallion in a band and a three-day-old foal that we named Diamond because he had a big diamond star on his head. That black stallion trotted over to within twenty feet of my sister, blew explosively out his nose, and then they all just raced away. And this first experience of meeting this horse, Raven, who is Cloud’s father, was kind of a magic moment. So the area had a strong spiritual significance to me besides being an absolutely beautiful place.

We started filming there in June of 1994 and I was telling the story of Raven’s family. Actually, we never set out to do a story that was personal in nature. All the wild horse shows that have been produced up until now have been more or less generic in nature. And that was more or less what I intended to do with this show, with a specific focus on the American West. But as it turned out, when I went in June 1994 to start filming in the Arrowhead Mountains, I was driving up the mountain and out of the blue came Raven. And then before I knew it, another stallion raced in and started fighting with Raven and I got a little bit of that on film. It didn’t strike me then but it does now, that I didn’t find these horses; they found me. And this kept happening to me continuously through that summer.

There was a Bureau of Land Management [BLM] (http://www.blm.gov/nhp/index.htm) round-up that fall, and two of the three foals in Raven’s band were killed during this round-up. This was kind of a shocking thing that happened. This was a year before Cloud was born, so this was the setup to the next spring, in which we wanted to see what had happened to Raven and his band. In fact, they had had two fillies. And then in May, I was filming other projects, and then out trots this Palomino mare, Cloud’s mother, with a newborn foal. I didn’t find her; she came and brought the foal right in front of the camera. And that was my introduction to the colt I named Cloud.

And through the years, people hired me to do various projects in this same area. And this brought me repeatedly into contact with the wild horses of the Arrowheads and specifically Cloud. And so just by chance, luck, or fate I had this catalog of a wild horse from 1995 through 1998. Then in 1999, I presented the idea to Fred Kaufman at NATURE. It’s very unusual to have an experience in which you follow a wild animal through its life.

Given that this Arrowhead Mountain area seems immense, it seems mind-boggling that you were able to pick up the trail of this particular band of horses every time you went out to film.

Following the trail has been hard. Especially if you consider that as a two-year-old, Cloud was released after the BLM round-up and disappeared. Every winter thereafter I never was able to find him. So from about November through May, I had no idea where he was; over half of his life was a mystery to me, up until the 2000-2001 winter when I saw him for the first time during the cold season. The horses in the Arrowheads live in a very harsh winter climate. It’s extremely cold, and usually they come down the mountain below the snow line, but Cloud never did do that.

As a bachelor, Cloud went way out in Lost Water Canyon and became totally cryptic; trying to find a white horse in the snow is, you can imagine, virtually impossible. So it took us years to realize that he never did what the other horses did; he didn’t come down the mountain below the snow line. On the contrary, he stayed in the high country, but in an area that’s surrounded on three sides by steep canyon walls, which has heavy tree cover. Really, this was a very dangerous choice by Cloud because if the snow becomes ice-covered, as it did in 1997, almost all of the older horses will die when stranded in such an environment. Nevertheless, he chose to do that with his other bachelor buddies and therefore he was totally impossible for us to find.

My natural instinct when I met Raven and started to follow his family story was to make myself hidden. I realized that wouldn’t work when I hid among some rocks above a water hole, and a band stallion was drinking and he looked up — I’m sure he smelled me — and he did that explosive snort, and then it seemed as if every horse in the country ran because they didn’t know who I was and probably assumed I was a predatory mountain lion hiding in the rocks.

So what I learned was to make myself not cryptic but very obvious and very benign. I would wave to the horses, as if to say, “Here I am,” and then sit down. I would also watch to see in which direction the bands were naturally moving and try to slowly work myself into the path so that if they were moving they would be coming toward me rather than away. And this worked for me in being able to be largely unobtrusive.

One sequence from the show that stands out is Raven protecting his mares from bachelor stallions’ advances. Can you describe this kind of ritual?

There are two kinds of rituals we’re talking about. The band stallion’s role in a family is to be the defender and protector of the mares and of the foals. If the foals wander off, it’s the stallion’s job to retrieve them. So the stallion is usually a very good caretaker of the little ones. If the mares were allowed to do this job, they would likely be subject to being stolen by other stallions. Young stallions live in rowdy groups and slightly older stallions that are five to eight years old will really be a terrific threat for theft of mares, so that’s why the band stallion is charged with the responsibility of keeping everyone together. Raven is a particularly powerful horse, very active, flashy, and charismatic; he won’t hesitate to confront anyone out in the field of battle, so to speak. But he also likes to play around with these younger stallions, so he’ll go out and meet them, touch noses, then scream in an unforgettably haunting call. Then they will defecate and smell their own pile and pivot, kick, and rear up. It’s very ritualistic; the horses are establishing their presence.

Sometimes, it can be a more serious confrontation when the bachelor stallion is older, and that’s what you see in the film. The dun stallion that encounters Raven was probably six or seven years old, and that’s when you have more vocalization and more fighting.

As far as courtship rituals go, most of the stallions are extremely gentle, will talk to the mares, starting from their ears down their neck. And the mares will either turn around and kick them if they’re not interested or they’ll turn around and breed.

In the program, when Cloud is a colt and learning to walk, was his mother very protective? Was it difficult to film this sequence because of that?

Usually, when mares have young foals they are more elusive. Because they are a prey species and not a predatory species, they tend to run and stay away from danger rather than aggressively meeting it. Regarding this sequence, because I had been documenting Raven’s band from the year before, I think I was already viewed as a part of the scenery. I could just as well have been a juniper or a pine. So when Cloud was little, the Palomino mare did elude other people but for one reason or another let me in.

How unusual is Cloud’s white coloration?

He’s a pale Palomino and in some places that is not as unusual as it is in the Arrowheads. But the Arrowheads sport mainly a lot of duns, bays, and blacks, which are primitively marked, well-camouflaged horses. It is very unusual to see a white-colored horse. If you think about it from a survival standpoint, it makes much more sense to be a dun, bay, or black, rather than stand-out white.

How big are these wild horses?

Typically, they are around 70 pounds at birth. They are smaller than domesticated horses, probably 14-15 hands tall versus anywhere from 15-18 hands tall for most domestic horses. Size is very important in survival; you don’t want to have a great big engine to drive if you have limited food resources. So they really have evolved to become this compact, smallish, very tough and durable animal. And that’s why people who have adopted wild horses have found them to be extraordinary in their ability to do endurance and trail riding. The have good sturdy bones and great feet.

Are newborns seasonal?

Yes, the main foaling season is mid-May through mid-June. Cloud was born on May 29th. In 2001, the foals were born very late, all the way from the end of June through the beginning of August. That’s very unusual. In contrast, Raven’s two mares were born in March, which is pretty early.

You adopted the blue roan called Trace. What inspired you to become a wild horse owner?

When I had first seen him in the wild, I thought he was the best yearling. I never thought of adopting any of them. But in 1997 the BLM came out with a list of horses they wanted to remove, and he was on that list. He was the high-priced colt in that auction.

How do you train a wild horse?

Well, he’s still wild. At first, I couldn’t touch him and it was a very slow process of winning the horse’s trust. The only other experiences with humans Trace had prior to this was when he was chased by a helicopter from the wild, removed from his mother when he was still nursing, run through a corral and chute, had blood drawn, freeze-branded on his neck, and taken 600 miles away to Colorado. So you certainly can’t tame a wild horse in 48 hours. Food is a very nice motivator.

One of the most striking sequences in the show is when the stallion Looking Glass kills the young filly foal. How do you explain Looking Glass’s behavior?

That’s definitely the most asked question I get about the program. There are a lot of interpretations of what he did. The foal was not going to be a survivor and Looking Glass may have simply sensed that it was ill and killed it. Another explanation is that the foal did not get up and get out of the way when the elders arrived, and this is a strict rule of horse society. This foal, being ill, couldn’t get out of the way and was punished severely for it. Lastly, it could be that Looking Glass is simply an aggressive animal. He had the opportunity to kill something and he took advantage of it. One of my location scouts saw him breeding one of his mares, and he had her down on the ground by the neck, which is very aggressive and unusual. The bottom line is that the sick foal died quickly, which is a better fate that what could have been in store for him.

It’s obvious you care deeply about these horses and your emotional attachment to them is very plain.

I feel very privileged that these horses have allowed me to eavesdrop on their lives. It’s been a wonderful gift. It’s difficult to know wild animals because at any time you understand that the next time you go up looking for them they might not be there. So that makes it very emotional. I was asked at the Jackson Hole Wildlife Film Festival if I have a back-up plan if something happens to Cloud, and I kind of stared at this gentleman in the audience and said, “No, I have confidence that Cloud will be there.” You know, Cloud doesn’t care a bit that he’s the star of a television program and a book, but my hope for Cloud is that he becomes an ambassador for his species, so that people will realize what great animals they are and therefore want to play a bigger role in preserving them in the American West.

You’re currently working on a sequel to this program. Can you give us a preview of what we will see?

We’re going to see some pretty exciting stuff and things that I would not have predicted. We’re going to see Cloud’s foals that are born, and what happens to them is fairly unpredictable. What’s up for grabs is whether any of these foals from Cloud will survive, and the big question mark for summer 2002 is whether the mare with Cloud produces a foal. We’re also going to learn of the deaths of several horses we have come to know, but this kind of thing happens in the wild. And finally, we will see charming new faces. For those who might be worried, the bottom line is that Raven, Cloud, and Diamond are fine.

  • amara

    dear Ginger Kathrens,
    Is it true these people want to kill cloud and his family?If it is true why dont you adopt him and his family?please try and email me back because I cant think strait knowing that he might be getting killed.
    thanks!

  • Robert [Rob] Archer

    Dear Ginger,
    I just finished watching your show introducing us to the wild horses of the Rockies and Cloud in particular. What a spectacular existence you lead; harsh at times perhaps but spectacular. If I wasn’t closing in on 60 years of age, I would pack my duffle and head on down to Colorado to offer myself as your goffer.
    From the Great White North,
    Ontario, Canada,
    Rob Archer

  • maria ruggiero

    love your work of the story of cloud i would like to ask what kind of saddle you were riding on with your horse trace i am looking at trail saddles an want some thing light and will stand up to trail riding. thank you . maria ruggiero

  • chris naylor

    Hi Ginger! I loved your film and wondered when the sequel will be available and what people can do to help preserve these wild horses?

  • Bob Thomas

    Enjoyed the show very much. What part of Colorado are you in ?. Keep up the good work.

  • charmel

    Kudos to you Ginger Kathrens, for awakening some of us to the beauty and reality of life in the wild mustang’s world. Why is it man can’t leave to God, what belongs to God. ” Live and let live.” Maybe Cloud decended from the clouds to give the world a message through you? Looking forward to more about Cloud and wild horse cronicles in 2009. I would love to be working with a “spirit” such as you. You are blessed.

  • Steve N_

    What a neat dinner show! Your voice was so even though, I kept waiting for command-response training to come in; at least, I am retrained to think bunnies and deer are cute, juvenile tooth-clacking is submissive, and (many many acres of) winter brush can sustain horses. I hope Cloud did not learn to injure hindlegs of every groom he challenges!

  • Jerry G

    Your devotion and committment to your profession should be an inspiration to anyone who wants to succeed in life. To me,the “back story” to ‘Cloud’ is your story as a prime example of an (your) individual’s effort and patience. Thank you and PBS for two stories in one.

  • George Smith

    Wonderful show! Good story and great photography. Are the Arrowhead Mountains also referred to as the Pryor Mountains?

  • Yvon Chartrand

    I have enjoyed the film. A very professional movie.
    I saw that you are using an Arriflex camera. Is this a 35mm or a Super 16?
    I haven’t been able to determine the model of that camera.
    Thanks,
    Yvon Chartrand

  • Kayla

    Hi Ginger,

    My names Kayla and i love mustangs and horses. I love how you watch and video tape the mustangs. I am so inspired by you and would love to meet you some time. Well bye please write back.

    Kayla

  • Judy Porter

    Hi Ginger,

    I absolutely loved this program about Cloud. I sat spellbound. My husband and I love the West, we have been to so many of the states out west and from a distance have seen the wild horses. Our granddaughter who is fifteen takes riding lessons and really into horses. Do you have the ones of Cloud on DVD? I would certainly love to order her some.

    Keep up the good work. What inspiration!!!!

    Thank you so much,
    Judy Porter, Tampa, Fl

  • Walter Murphy

    3R-Ranch Horses Helping Children, Inc.
    To: Whom it may concern,
    Thank you for your time. Would you please read this and help in any way you can! God blessed me with this task about a year ago and I deeply feel I will get this done! In my research I have found that NO one in the nation is doing what I am trying to do for the Children and Horses. As of now we are a grass root organization and are working out of our own pocket .We are in need of everything from hay, feed and medical supply, land, barns, trucks, trailers and Farm equipment. This small rural area is also in need of an Equine Education Center so children, schools, churches and the public can come to learn about and ride horses. Many of our youth are disadvantaged due to the rural isolation of some parts of Kentucky which our program would help our community and others, in many ways.
    We have a 501C3, under Always Believing -n- Children, however the more I network with Bureau of Land Management and the North American Riders for the Handicap along with their centers, and with NASCAR Angles, Victory Junction Gang, plus other Therapeutic Centers and educational programs. I have found out just how much our services are needed. Please read our mission and goals of the organization below.
    Mission and Goals
    3R-Ranch, Horses helping children, Inc. is a Non-Profit Corporation dedicated to the rescue, rehabilitation and relocation of horses donated, abandoned or neglected. When a horse arrives at our facility it is placed in our recovery center where it is given a complete examination by our veterinarian and Ferrier. Once the horse has been given the proper care and nourishment and a clean bill of health it will be placed in our training program. This will be a natural non-stressful training for the horses, since most of them will come from a hard life. Horses that are deemed suitable for children with therapeutic riding needs are donated to children’s camps, therapeutic riding centers and other organizations that use horses for therapeutic and educational purposes. Horses deemed not suitable for these purposes are placed for adoption with suitable owners, at no cost to the new owner, or 4-H horse programs, and safe horse handling classes as well or used at the Equine Education Center.
    The ranch would also travel to children’s hospitals and other child care centers to provide horse and buggy rides for children who otherwise may never have the opportunity to know the love and enjoyment of these wonderful animals. I have been working on designing and building a horse buggy that would be wheelchair accessible in order to accommodate those children confined to a wheelchair. I have also been talking with therapeutic centers in designing a saddle to accommodate some handicapped riders.
    The ranch would also lessen the burden of local and state law enforcement by our Horse Rescue Service, along with providing training and equipment for a local volunteer Mounted Search and Rescue Team. We would also like to provide a retirement pasture for older horses with a horsey heaven cemetery.
    Again, thank you so much for taking the time to read our letter. We sure hope to hear from you in regards to the hopes and dreams of our children and your partnership not only helps the children but preserves the life of a majestic animal. I hope that you will try to help me fulfill my dreams as well.
    Sincerely, ( On Their Back’s We Built A Nation, )
    Walter Murphy
    Walter Murphy
    Found/CEO
    3-R Ranch
    Horses Helping Children, Inc.
    P.O. Box 714
    Liberty, KY 42539
    Phone: 606-706-0004
    Email: Walter.Murphy@uky.edu

  • Ernest Lucca

    Absolutly captivating. I am about to retire and as a child i loved to go behind my house and watch the horses of my neighbor play and horse around in the coral where he raised them. As I approach retirement i have been thinking of adopting a horse as a pet, not for riding but just to establish a relationship with it in caring for it. So it is a real coincidence that i have come across your film and it really has inspired me into a direction that i know i want to go in.

  • Jody Coman

    Thank you for your films and hope you make many more.
    I have learned so much about wild horses from your films. It all applies to horse behavior in domestic horses. Please continue your film making and help make people aware of the plight of these beautiful wild horses at this time. Our grandchildren may not be able to see them or know of them in th wild if the present trend continues. Jody Coman Port Angeles, WA

  • allison

    i have always been a big horse lover and am finally working with them and you actually helped me love them even more after i watched the show. I just have one quesion?, did you love it having horses right there in the camera watching every move you take and filming every move they take??? its always been my dream to be out in the wild filming and taking pictures of the wild horses.

  • Edgar Joseph Mickelson

    Ginger, our rannch is located just about straqight down from the Pryor Mountain overlook in Dryhead Mountain we own over 6000 acres. I was born and raised in Lovell Wyoming and have watched the wild horse all my life and have taught my children to love them. I too am sadden by the destruction of wild horses. So I give you and your foundation a suggestion, it will not solve the problem but will save a few. Buy Cloud and then find 199 more people to adopt one horse. Since our ranch runs horse all winter in Dryhead which is located about 5 miles north of the wild horse range. Our ranch starts at Lockhart ranch on Davis Crk and runs along the forest boundary to the Crow res.. For $2.00 per day I will run and take care of the horse. I would feed them when needed in the winter. Please email me if you would like to discuss this any further. I will look forward to the opportunity to work with you and cloud.

  • Nelly

    Hi Ginger:
    You have no idea how much I enjoy watching your specials on wild horses. I just love to watch cloud and of course all the wild horses. I admire you for making it possible for us to watch a part of the wild that otherwise we may never be able to know about. I just love horses. It makes me wonder if somehow in my past lives I was closely involved with horses. They are so magnificent! Thank you again for making this show possible.

    Nelly Sandoval

  • A Person

    Love this show!!!

  • katelyn pettit

    i really like cloud. what breed is he? what is hes mothers name ? I cant rember. how is trace are you going to make anouther movie

  • Kyna Biel

    Today i am doing a presentation on Cloud in my Intro. to ag class. Cloud has always been my favoriot story. I want to do more. I am very good with horses. Training 4 of them.i am also good with tracking. but i wish to help you out in mountains. i have been out to wyoming only once, but i am sure i can adjust. if you ever need another person along let me know. i’ll do anything. thanks for your time.
    Kyna L. Biel

  • milton

    hi ginger. i think your beautiful an you come to mind when i was confronted with this problem.montana state is going to send a bunch of smr horse on the blackfoot resevation in montana to slaughter, an they need to be resuced, possibly befor thanks giving http://www.browninghorserescue.com/

  • Joanne

    Dear Ginger
    Firstly I’d like to thank you for making the Cloud series. It has litrually turned my life around. I live in Scotland and don’t get much on wild horses at all so your online episodes were a godsend.

    It’s my dream , my one goal in life to one day go to the arrowhead mountains or some place similar and observe the wild horses. I’ve thought of nothing else for a whole year now. I know this is what I want. Tell me ,in all honesty please… is there ever any chance of me getting there? I’m no film-maker…

  • Magnus

    Hi Ginger,
    Joanne´s dream is my dream as well. I live in Germany. I don´t know much about the arrowhead mountains so I want to know if there is a chance to get there. Please answer me this question as well.
    I couldn´t sleep the last day because of think about getting there and protect the horses.

  • Heidi

    What a fantastic movie about Cloud. I have tears in my eyes. My huge interest is barefoot hooves. I have two horses, one dressage horse and a little shetland stallion for driving. Both are barefooted and working fine. The live outdoor through out the whole year, summer and winter – and our winters are sometimes very tuff, with -25 C and a lot of snow. But the have shelter with dry sleeping places always access to food and ice free heated water. They really love their life :-) And I am never going to stable horses again. But my question is: Did you get a good look at their hooves? I could have given a million for a closer look at the horse’s hooves that had been hit by the lightening and died. I read all the documentation I can about wild horse’s hooves and Pete Ramey is my favourite mentor. I thank you for this amazing movie that has given me a chance to see wild horses in their natural habitat. I hope to se more…. Best regards Heidi Bjerke, Norway

  • b.c.

    musste kotzen über den film sorry

  • Bettina

    I watched both sequals while visiting my father in germany – we both loved them, because we could feel in every sequence how much you love and respect these mustangs and their ancient way of life. I normally live in Paraguay – and now my little son (5) and his friends are all Cloud-Fans – and learned from him and you to respect and cherish. My son called his Pony “Cloud” and treats him with care and loves to see him run free. Thank you for all of this – thanks for the chance to meet these amazing horses and the arrowhead mountains – even in Paraguay!!!

  • Lee Anne Simmons

    Thank you so much for this amazing educational program. Wild horses are so important to our history and culture and the BLM has done a horrible job of managing them, as they have other wild life and wild areas in this country. One can only hope that we will come to a more enlightened frame of mind in the 21st Century and the last 100 years will look like the dark ages in wild life management. I so admire people like yourself who dedicate their lives to trying to save life and educate the rest of us.

    Thanks so much for your dedication and letting us know what we can do to help the wild horses.

  • Phil Taylor

    BLM…………..BLM!! Well back in the 1970’s I met Wild Horse Annie and was privy to her observations of BLM antics in Nevada. I was writing for a few publications back then. She had photographed BLM employees rounding up Mustangs, loading them into trailers and hauling them to slaughter houses in California. She then reported the incidents, showing proof in the photographs. Nothing was ever done to those employees. They did stop those secretive round ups though.

    Your cause is great. Keep up the good work. I live in Montana and if you ever need help just get in touch with me.

  • roxy

    Phil Tayler –
    you can do something to help right now –

    The BLM is planning a roundup th end of this month – we must all write, e-mail or call the politicians – it is our only hope. Tell all your friends too – I read on one gov web that each e-mail to them is repesentative of 5 public opinions –

    so go ahead, blast blm, you know you want to.

    We all must work to stop this round up or cloud may not be free on the range when the 3rd episode aires this October. This is URGENT.

    I cannot face another round-up- just last month, on my birthday no less, BLM reounded up a whole heard in Colorado – the pictures are on The Cloud Foundation web page – warning, they will break your heart.

    Why are they doing these reoundups when they have said they can’t care for the horse alredy in captivity? Something fishy going on here!

  • roxy

    God bless you Ginger Kathrens, the Cloud Foundation Team, and all others in Wyoming this very sad day. No God Bless yous for any of the BLM and their contractors anywere, anytime – not at this time – not until they stand up. A day by day account of the roundups occuring right now are on thecloudfoundation.org. According to the Foundation, BLM rep Don Glenn, in a tapped interview has indicated that, contrary to previouse BLM promises that all horses would be adopted, they have changed their minds and some will be sold (Burns Act – SLAUGHTER). Well, I don’t think they changed their minds, I think they just stabbed Ms Kathrens in the back once again. Please go the Foundation web site – take Action, please help save these horses – change thier minds. Call, write, e-mail all officials listed. Perhaps another day will be happier – a day of reckoning if we just all keep working towards the goal – Freedom.

  • Kellie

    Hi i love clouds herd and this is just the most upsetting thing. i hope i ca help with what ever i can do…………… kellie please help them

  • Cam

    Please, tell me what to do. I have had a fire burning for these horses ever since I can remember. I fear that a few of my ancestors may have been partially responsible for the torture of these majestic beings and I will never rest until I have done my part to save them. I truly believe these horses are one of the few symbols of freedom we have left. May God be with us!

  • roxy

    Kellie and Cam, go to thecloudfoundation.org. Write or call to President and Mrs, Obama, Vice President Biden, DOI Ken Salazar, BLM Robert Abbey and your own Sentaors and Congressmen to support S 1579, stop the roundups, return all elder horses immediately to their homes. It doesn’t not matter your age, or even if you live in this country – make your outrage known. All the phone numbers, addresses, e-mail addresses, fax numbers are there too. Contact them every day if you can – over and over. And watch the new Cloud program this Sunday, October 25 on your local PBS network.

  • Kendra

    This is an outrage, who do we (humans) think we are! Leave these horses alone, they harm no one/ no thing! We must free Cloud and his Band, and the others!!!

  • Jenny Mehrtens

    Hello Ginger,
    I was wondering if a follow up on Cloud’s herd will be done. I watched your episode last night on KCET. My horse pals and I on Facebook want to know. I am a horse owner and I am concerned deeply about the future of ALL of our wild horses and the lands left to them by the people that are being taken away. What can we do to help? Thanks so much, Jenny Mehrtens, Black Moon Ranch

  • jill price

    Dear Ginger, I can’t tell you what your show on clouds family meant to me when I saw it on pbs. I have been following the films and have been reading about you. I have been dreaming about the film and the arrowhead mountains with the wild horses. AS a child my dreams were always horses and I continue to have and arab at this time but to see those beautiful horses makes me want to be there and experience that . THank you I will continue to investigate info on you and you’re horses. Thank YOu. jill

  • Gabe

    Dear Ginger,
    I had fun watching your shows so did my brothers. thanks a lot for doing that.

  • Claire

    Dear Ginger,
    I am a 13 (almost 14) year old student. I have found that this story of Cloud is very close to my heart. I have watched all about this stallion and find it very interesting how much of your life you have put into observing these wonderful animals. I own horses and found that earning a horses trust is very important. I do hunter jumpers so as you can imagine for me; my horses are my partners. I have ridden since i was 3 and I absolutely love horses. When I grow up I hope that I can come even close to your accomplishments! I honor your commitment in protecting these gorgeous, and free animals. My favorite of the stallions is Looking Glass. I find his reactions to certain things are very different to those of the other horses. I believe that he is the real “thinker”. It seems to me is very protective and very loving. I hope when i grow up i can get up close to these beautiful creatures. Thank You for protecting these gorgeous creatures and fighting for what you believe in! Let them roam free for they are the ones who truly built our country. Where ever there was a boot print there was a hoof right next to it.
    Claire

  • katelyn

    hi im katelyn im 9 almost 10 i love horses i have 2 of my own the story of cloud touched my hart i would love to see more about cloud

  • Cassandra

    Dear Ginger Kathrens,
    I am a a horse crazy twelve year old student in Washigton. I love all three of your videos very much, they are my favorite videos ever! Before I watched your videos I loved horses the way most kids do, I thought of all of them as beign like the pony rides at the fair. But know I truly understand the habits, maybe even the feelings, of horses wildy and tame. I think I am not the only person who has been touched this way, so for my ‘Person Who Changed The World’ speech, I chose to do my speech on you. I would love to know more about you and your life not just with horses, but with your family and such like that. It would be very helpful if you were to e-mial me some information on your life. Thanks!~
    Cassandra Bowling

  • georgia

    in your movie you said sitca dies and cloud was mad and unhappy or somthing but I’ve been dying to know how she does awnser soon!

  • Krystena

    I am a horsecrazy girl and I love your work, I wish I could see all of the episodes but i can’t. I have a curfew : ( I hope that soon i will be able to buy the DVD’s though. I can’t wait to get them!

  • Carisma

    I love horses so much, I hope that one day I can do what your doing. You are my idol!!

  • cindy paddock

    DEAR GINER,
    I FIRST LEARN ABOUT U AND CLOUD THRO JOE BULLOCK, HE OWNS A RANCH IN THE PROYER MTS….CLOUD IS A BEAUTIFULL STALLION….SO ARE HIS OFF SPRING, LIKE BOULDER AND I FORGIT THE OTHER ONES NAME…I’M SURE HE HAS PRENTY MORE AND MORE COMING UP…KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AS I KNOW U WILL….TAKE CARE, CINDY

  • Mikki

    Enjoy the programming done by PBS on your wild horses and teh Arrowhead Mountains. I enjoy watching and I hope that you and PBS will continue to keep us informed about Cloud and the many other horses you have filmed. Thank you for such enjoyment and educating us on the BLM wild horse program. Mikki, Iowa

  • MustDang$ally

    I love the way you put together the scene with the stallions fighting on the hilltop, lightening flashing. Amazing.

  • John Greene

    Ginger & Crew,

    What fantastic scenes of fabulous horses unlike anything I have ever seen!! I love horses and have adored wild horses always but this sure personalized and glamorized the wonder of these neat animals while showing the dangers and unique problems faced in their lives daily and throughout parts of the year that are even worse. I would love to know more and would love another type series of this type if Ginger or a protoege could do one!!

    Thanks so much and may God bless you all involved in this wondrous project!!

  • Mary Alice Pollard, Cornwalls Voice for Animals

    I am so in love with Cloud and his family – and all the wild horses of America.
    Thank you for your love and dedication and for reaching the hearts of people world wide with your films !
    The roundups, the cruelty – it must end.

  • Jennie A. Barron

    I finally found the film! I had found the link to the twitter site; but working many hours with the research to find answers to stop the wild horse round ups took me to many sites for the beginning of the problem – to now. I have called the Secretary of Interior, Ken Salazar and the Department of Land Management; and Senators. I have given them the information that I have found; but not all of it, like the way the politicians did the Free Roaming Wild Horse and Burro Act and the names of the people involved, which will be next. I have hoped and prayed; and I have found you! I have so many questions. But, before I do, I will watch the other episodes to refresh my memory, and thank you so much for being such a wonderful part of life for Cloud.

  • jordan

    I am 12 years old and I was so intreged by the movies and I went to the Arrowheads and I was lucky to go to the moutain top and see cloud and hundreds of other horses. I hope that you make a nother movie. I just want you to know that I am one of the most willing to go form missoula to wyoming every summer to see both the horses and the land that they roam on.

    love JLB (:

  • Sara

    Hello :)
    I’m sara and I’m 15 years old…and I only want you to know that I have a dream since I saw your film ;): I would like to go to the usa (i live in germany) and visit the rocky mountains to see the horses…i would like to buy one of them…

    Love Sara :D

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