The dogs depicted with the Bedouins appear to me to be Sloughis, not Salukis; Salukis have long, silky feathering on their ears and tails, whereas Sloughis have short hair, like the dogs on the TV program. Otherwise, the two breeds appear to be almost identical. I could be wrong, but at least when I look the two breeds up, that is what I get!
Saluki come in feathered and smooth varieties (according to AKC and to my experience in eastern Turkey). Sloughis are not yet recognized breed, but those called Sloughis are exclusively North African. The hounds in the video are salukis – one smooth. See also http://www.akc.org/breeds/saluki/index.cfm
What about the anatolion sheepard no mention they are siad to be 4 to 5000 years old
I want a husky!
These videos are really interesting and educational for me. They helped me answered some of my questions i had about evolution.
Yes, would like to see the Anatolian Shepherd, Ibizan and Azawakh hounds from Africa as well – genetically the Azawakh/Sloughi/Saluki are quite similar – eek on Afghans though! Smooth Salukis as beautiful too… saw a grizzle one at coursing once and he was awesome!
aren`t dalmatians really old to?
what about deerhounds – http://deerhounds.blogspot.com
All of the Asian breeds featured are descendants of Primitive Nordic Spitz breeds. Yes, Atilla the Hun brought the Nordic dogs to the East. Look at the Finnish Spitz and Finnish Lapphund(Chow Chow and Shiba Inua), Karelian Bear Dog (Akita), and other primitive spitz for their influence in all the spitz type breeds. The most primitive dog, the Basenji, is not considered a spitz but may have been breed with wolves to create the beautiful and unique qualities of the Nordic Spitz brees.
Unfortunatedly Tibetan Mastiffs are not listed here. http://www.tibetanmastiffinfo.com is a good site to start from.
The view I see shows a world map and a listing of some 14 breeds. Zero dogs are native to the “Americas”. The artic is it’s own region. Facinating. They did not have wheels either.
None for Europe or Australia?
I love Malamutes-extremely intelligent and like showing how smart they are.
Doggy Diva’s opinion seems to supersede mitochondrial DNA. Please cite some references for your claims that Atilla brought the Nordic dogs to Asia or disprove the genetic research regarding DNA. I would like to see why you would consider the Basenji , the most primitive dog, regardless of published research, and not dogs like the New Guinea Singing Dog or the Dingo.
does anyone have additional information about the great pyrenes ?
i really want to know where the african wild dog fits into the genetic profile of the dog. are they also descendant from the asian wolf and if so, how did they come to be in africa and completely free of the link to humans? i have yet to find any information regarding the origins of this dog.
My understanding is that the African wild dog is an entirely different species from both the wolf and the domesticated canine. Yes, they are social hunters like the wolf but their intra-species behaviors are quite different.
As I thought. The African wild dog is an entirely different genus, Lycaon, from our more familiar species (Canis).
I’ve always loved maps, and I love the new ways computer technology makes of them. Thank you for setting this up. I understand the conclusions are not certain, and more research may reveal a different set of most ancient dog breeds, but it’s at least a good start.
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I had no idea Chow Chows were originally bred as temple guards. But it definitely explains why my Chow-mix spends so much time at the window, watching the comings and goings of all the neighbors.
That’s interesting that the origins of the herding breeds are the Samoyed and not a shepherd breed. I have a Belgian Shepherd (Tervuren) and between my research, talks with ohter Belgian owners and experience with him, I can see the ancient in him. The Samoyed makes sense too though.
The Alaskan Malamute is NOT, repeat NOT an “ancient breed”, unless you believe that the _1935_ American Kennel Club recognition after a few generations of artificially manipulating the breed’s primitive aboriginal progenitors, the Inuit Sled Dog (the landrace aptly described in Dogs That Changed the World), is ancient. The 4000 year-old Inuit Sled Dog is truly a product of its natural habitat and its traditional function. Whereas the Alaskan Malamute was officially created 76 years ago to an contrived written breed standard designed to have it cookie-cutter conforming to a certain set of visual criteria: eye and coat color, markings, tail set, height, weight, movement on a leash in a show ring, and other functionless “attributes”. Although there are very obtuse references to “performance”, nothing is required of the dog to demand or prove it is worthy of reproduction, unlike its predecessors who could either do the job, live under harsh conditions….or die. In no way does the Alaskan Malamute does not belong on this map!
From a recent research article I read the dogs went in the opposite direction; from Asia to Europe. The Norwegian Buhund is as old as it gets in Europe, it followed the first humans into Norway from the east and south at the end of the last ice age, about 10,000 years ago. The Siberian Husky (my breed of dogs) orgiginated when going north with the Chukchi people of north east Siberia. I would say they are equally old as breed types
Siberian doggies are pretty!!! I want one!!!!!!!!!!!! >:D
Hi Bug!! Lol. This thing isn’t to be played on. Its for people to give their opion the Siberian Husky and other sorts that are related to the topic. Not the color purple. Even though is the absolute best color in the world. :)
I have the pleasure of owning two of the closest breeds of dogs to wolves (not including thingsthat were once domesticated like dingos) , a shiba inu and basenji. It surprises people that according to DNA analysis, my basenji is more genetically similar to wolves then the “wolfy looking breeds” like huskies (far too high maintenance for me >>). They tend to think she’s a chihuahua mix, and not an ancient pooch. She howls as a greeting! My black and tan shiba constantly gets the “is he a baby husky?” or “he looks like a little wolf!”. Both are fairly strange and have their little quirks that are cool, but they really are not beginner’s dogs like the other medium and large sized dogs on this list. I believe that basenji, chow, and shibas are the closest according to a recent study, DNA wise? Not particularly wild in appearance XD.
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Sue, the AKC “standard” Alaskan Malamute is not an ancient breed as it is a mix of Malamute and Siberian Husky. A true Malamute (from the ancient M’loot line) is one of the oldest breeds in the world. There are only four breeds around today who share more DNA with the wolf than with dogs. These are:
The Alaskan Malamute
The Inuit Sled Dog
The Labrador Husky
The Greenland Dog
So, yes, the Alaskan Malamute is one of the most ancient breeds on this map. Just not the AKC standard breed. I hate the AKC.
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What about Xoloitzcuintli from Mexico? They have been around for over 3000 years?
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