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Ernest Thompson Seton in The Wolf That Changed America

After you watch the premiere of The Wolf That Changed America tonight at 8pm (check local listings), let us know what you think of the episode.

  • What was your favorite part?
  • What did you find interesting?
  • What do you think of the transformation that Ernest Thompson Seton undergoes during his Lobo adventure?
  • What are people’s attitudes toward wolves in your community?

Use the comment form below to share your thoughts with NATURE viewers everywhere. And if you missed the episode, log on Monday night to watch the full episode online.

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  • Jay Roelof

    It’s nice to know that the Bush voting base made up of guys like Kent are now irrelevant with respect to the impending Obama administration. What is sad is that, for the next 60 days, they will still have an impact on environmental issues.

  • Kent Misegades

    Sounds like an another one of your lefty agendas, PBS. Wolves are no longer endangered, and while I would not support their systematic eradication, protecting them where humans suffer as a result is nuts. Humans, like wolves, are part of nature. Let humans, not governments, decide what is worthy of protection. Just as with waterfowl and wild turkeys, private organizations such as the NRA and Ducks Unlimited will do far more to sustain the species than any pin-headed elites or whacked out lefty groups like the Sierra Club. Millions have died of malaria due to the misguided efforts of environmental sensationalists who stopped the use of DDT in Africa. Thank goodness it is being used again! Bald Eagles are as plentiful today as vultures and are far from endangered, just like polar bears. May the fittest survive.

  • dave

    I thought the show was well done. The fact that the events occured 100 years ago, merely meant that recreation would be important to tell the tale. Todays politics, left or right, mattered not to Mr. Seaton. Respecting the wildlife of his day seemed to be his motivation. We should take note.

  • Joe Lake

    “The Wolf That Changed…”

    It seems to me that the story tells the events from the 1890’s–history and how Seton changed his views about wolves.

    Nicely done.

    Joe Lake, Bucktown

  • mary

    I am so disappointed in this show. The faux news about
    Seton was ridiculous. The faux record of his traveling and hunting is of no interest. Let’s have a show real show with the expert who you featured. This recreation of a story is so lame. You can tell the Seton story without the video that is not real and without the music.
    I want to see real stuff about wolves like you do for all other animals.
    The story is good but the fake photography is so not right.

  • mary

    Let humans, not governments decide what is worthy…right like the humans who don’t like wolves for no reason? you are an idiot Kent

  • yram

    If the stock market continues its downward cycle…the wolves will prevail and “May the fittest survive” will fall by the wayside.

  • Marianne Britt Duvendack

    Many of us have had a turning point when we realize we must live with, not exert strict dominion over, other species. Fortunately, people like Seton had that epiphany early enough for the rest of us to explore our relationship with the natural world today. I may not be able to visit vast tracts of wilderness and I may never hear the howl of a wild wolf, but I have a sense of completeness knowing wild places and animals are out there.

    Am I a pin-headed elitist or misguided environmental sensationalist? Nope. I’m a mom trying to be sure these places and things will exist for my children and all children of the future.

  • Gene Forsythe

    I really liked this presentation. As a recreation of the time and the how ETS’s life view changed it was very good. I think the way it was done helped explain the mindset of the time, and how that mindset could (to some extent, in some people) be changed from fear and loathing to one of respect and honor.

  • raind

    I thought it was good, better than anything else I seen on “TV” today. Why get political about it?

  • Jason

    I thought it was excellent. There have been a number of documentaries about wolves in the wild – especially the Yellowstone wolves. They are all worthwhile. But this historical story is one not known and appreciated. I had no idea of the history of Seton other than his role in Scouting – so this was highly educational. My 14 year old son was particularly impressed by it. Well done.

  • LOR

    EXCELLENT SHOW – WANT TO SEE MORE ABOUT WOLVES – THEY ARE A FASCINATING AND MYSTICAL CREATURE !

    MORE, MORE, MORE

    THANKS, LOR

  • Thomas Shearstone

    For as intelligent humans are,we are also dumb. If we continue to explode as we are doing there will not be any room for us,never mind for our natural habitat. We must share this earth with God’s creatures. There is a reason why every creature was placed here and we should respect that.Hunt to eat,not to destroy.

  • Carolyn Earnest

    Great! We do not always see the connections to what we do and what we affect during our lifetime….some leave seeds/thoughts, like Johnny Appleseed, which are picked up my someone else to change or create………..then there are people like him that changed, lead…..and recorded the steps of that change.

  • Miriam

    Thank you for sharing this heart rending and hopeful story in such a sensitive and professional way. I only hope it has the impact that all involved in the production of this show hope it will.

    This show is particularly vital and timely when the Bush administration’s eleventh hour assault on the endangered species act demands our immediate action.

    I hope this beautiful program will raise awareness of the attempt to remove gray wolves from the endangered species list. It is vital to block this attempt and prevent the mass slaughter of wolves by the governments of Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana. In fact, I wish these facts had been shared with viewers at the end of the program.

    My primary source for the information on wolves comes from the NRDC website, and their fact sheet on gray wolves: http://www.nrdc.org/wildlife/animals/wolves/wolves.pdf

  • Bruce P.

    This is an engaging and compelling show. It did a good job of using history, story, and current scientific expertise to show Seton’s transformation. As he looked deeply into himself, his culture and his environment he found that respect, connection and cooperation are key to our thriving together. This includes rancher, hunter, livestock, wildlife, and nature observers. It is an inspiration for us always to take a courageous and compassionate look at our assumptions and live from what we are continuing to learn. When we do this, the offspring of animal and human win.

  • gwen conlin hopkins

    This was truly a quality program. With all the violence and mindless trash on television I can’t understand how anyone can complain or criticize this program. Hopefully it has opened eyes and hearts of fearful-or just plain ignorant-Americans by exposing the true nature of these intelligent and noble animals and realize that it’s our responsibility to respect and protect all wildlife that we are so blessed to share this land with. It’s time to shake off medieval thinking and adapt a more evolved attitude of compassion and tolerance towards humans and animals alike.

  • Carrie

    I am a HUGE supporter for wolf preservation and protection. Each and every animal on this Earth is here for a reason including the wolf. They are a vital link to preserving the natural balance of nature and MUST continue to be protected (despite Bush and Sarah Palin and their murderous intentions and laws!). The show was very well done. I would love to see more shows about wolves. Thank you.

  • Bill Fife

    Thank You!

    I can’t say that enough for a program that could not have been timed better! If he was the wolf that changed America then PBS /Nature is the station and program that changed the world. Or at least generated the spark that lit people’s imaginations and let them see the choices before them in the impact they have on the world where they live. Someone has to do it. And who to to it better.

    The wolf is perhaps the one remaining living example, second only to the American Bison, in North America of human disregard for the natural world and the wonder found in natural diversity. I honestly believe some just want to pave every acre that isn’t turned into a farm, ranch, gaited community or park for tourists. I believe it, but I will never understand it. Extinction is forever; never mind so many seem they could care less.

    Thank you for caring. Because there are some who can live without wild places, and some who cannot. I cannot.

    Nature is the one program I have asked for BY NAME when sending in my pledge and I have followed it since the first season it ran over twenty years ago.

    Bravo. Well done. Tell the story. Because someone must.

  • Wabishkewajiw

    Again another winner! Just like the Eagles last week a beautiful story about the indigenous species of our continent. Who actually infringed on who here? The Spirit of Lobo is truly a powerful one.

  • Deborah

    Hated this show.
    Was this the only way that you could justify the preservation of our wilderness and the animals that inhabit it? I felt very manipulated by your tale of this sad pair of wolves. I am now less inclined to watch Nature in the future. Anyone that cares about our wilderness and the native animals that inhabit these ranges does not have to emotionally played to support preservation. Sad program on many levels.,

  • John Gronberg

    A wonderful and deeply moving story well told. Thank you PBS!

  • Tammy

    I found this program well done! I have learned from years of experience that historical dramatizations are important for the transfer of information and lessons. The personal stories told will leave a great impact on future generations, just as they have in the past when stories told around the fire was our only means of handing down our history from one generation to the next. The native people of this land still tell their stories as well as peoples around the world. This program would be a grand educational tool that could be used in the classroom as well as other environments. I would not so quickly dismiss it’s importance as it is told. Though my husband and I probably would’ve continued to watch the episode, my children could have been less inclined. And my children and their friends are whom we need to educate so that the wolves that have been released in my back yard are not so quick to disappear yet again. The wolves, our wolves are still a very endangered species. Yet, people and cattle are not.

  • Dustin Thompson

    I’m 24 and live in the woods of western British Columbia. The story of Blanca and Lobo truly touched me… The issues surrounding this program are very dear to me.

    I truly hope the days of old are gone. Its an absolute embarrassment to hear of these actions and beliefs. In the future, they will scold our actions of these latest centuries.

    Some may think this is an overboard statement but I value the life of animals more than some humans I have met, as painful as that sounds, I’m not the only one….

    This is a story I will never forget, thank you PBS for sharing.

  • Mitch

    I have lived with wolves in my neighborhood in the wilderness of Alaska for over 16 years and the immense beauty and understanding they have given to me over the years has helped me to see that we are all here for a reason. Growing up in the mid west and the east coast of America and traveling this world I have seen the creation and destruction from man’s intelligence and lack of the same. The present difficulties we currently find ourselves in as a world society with respect to nature and the mess we have created due to the lack of true intelligence in understanding that we are that which we are destroying have become the most important subject on the world stage. Possibly next we will open our hearts and minds to the challenge of the human heart, to truly help all in this world with the most basic needs and stop being concerned with how much we can accumulate for our own wants. These are all one in the same. These two subjects are joined at the hips. It is our own humanity that we need to address as to whether we will survive as a creature of this planet and what we will take with us as spirit to the life beyond.

  • Hussein Afifi

    I watch nature show every Sunday at 8 Pm following 60 minutes. These weekly nature shows are special treats that I look forward to watch every week. This week’ show was particularly moving following Mr. Seton’s killing of Blanca, and the sadness that descended on Lobo. Please show us more and more. these are great shows. I enjoy them a great deal. No fancy adjectives or condescending political remarks.. Thanks.

  • Kelly

    Here in Alaska we recently voted to bane the hunting the wolves (and bears) from airplanes and helicopters; this was our 2nd attempt to stop this less-than-sportman-like practice. And, again, it was
    defeated. So for those of you who think that we humans don’t need encouragement to be humane, please reconsider. And the worst of it is, is that our governor, Sarah Palin, supported the current practice of hunting-by-air wolves and bears; why, you may ask?
    As usual, for Sarah, it’s all about the money. And this was after she had run on her betrayal of herself as and outdoors person who respected our way of life.
    PS: She also supports Pebble Mine and all that entails … dumping the toxins into the worlds largest wild samon waters of Bristol Bay, Alaska. (O

  • Judith Emerson

    Wonderful! Absolutely wonderful! The sacrifice of that one lone wolf became the birth of American environmentalism. And…I am very thankful that we shall now have a president and Congress more attuned to protecting our incredible natural heritage. The most holy places I know/feel is the Sequoias and the ocean and Yosemite. The natural world brings such grace of spirit, akin to that humbling awe I’ve felt when cradling a baby in my arms.

  • Georgina Castillo

    Lobo reminds me of the value of loyalty, dignity,clear conscience and love. I never thought it would be a wolf who will remind me of those values. Thank you very much PBS, how I wish your TV station can also be viewed in the Philippines, my home country.Since it couldnt be viewed there, I would definitely buy your DVD on this story and send it as a gift for my family.

  • Allyson

    Well done, PBS! I have always found wolf bounty hunters to be one of the United States’ most fascinating histories: a group of men who set out to exterminate wolves and–forced to confront the animals intimately–started to understand them and even connect with them. I think it’s a powerful lesson in empathy, and an example for the modern struggle over our nation’s predators.

  • G J Washburn

    I found myself relating to Ernest Thompson Seton’s attitude and perspective towards wolves and other predators. Being raised a hunter and woodsman from an early age, I shot many a predator with an instilled belief that I was doing mankind and wildlife a favor; was I a misguided ignoramus? Absolutely!
    While watching this thoughtful episode, I couldn’t help but think Doug Smith must have read a few of my books-”BEASTLY SON” & “THR WOLF WHISPERER”
    I, like Seton, have learned that which the Native American Indians knew when they were “one with nature”; the wolf is an extension of mans animal spirit and should be respected as such.
    Sometimes a changed perspective is a good thing, this PBS episode does a great job of showing why.
    “BEASTLY SON” & “THE WOLF WHISPERER” can show why people in my community love wolves. But then again, they and I don’t own livestock. There is a simple solution to this ancient problem though; wolves are teachable!
    Great Job PBS.

  • Sara Deringer

    I watched this last night only because I thought the wolf would escape(!) Sorry, but I tear up just thinking about such a sad story, but one that needs to be told…

  • Janet

    I think many of you did not get the concept of the show. It was to provide us the link between Seton and affects this experience had to change America. Hence the title. From this experience came Wilderness awareness, Boy Scouts, and other environmental impacts. I think Seton was a remarkable man. A talented Nature Lover, and in the end did much to promote the issues concerning Natural Wildlife. I learned a lot from this show and I appreciated it very much. Keep shows like this coming

  • Michael Stephen

    Excellent Production! Informative, educational and inspiring!

  • Lisa Herring Mayo

    As a youngster, it was my great delight to read Ernest Thompson Seton’s stories of adventure. The story of Lobo and Blanca was heartbreaking, but their legacy of loyalty, bravery, and devotion is part of the allure of the wild, why we feel so drawn to the creatures there. The show was just wonderful, and it is my hope that a new generation of kids will pick up books by Seton and transport themselves to a world almost gone now. It is an incredible place there!!!!!

  • Philip

    After thinking about the sequence of events as described by Seton, I don’t believe Seton’s account that Lobo died a few hours after being taken back to Seton’s cabin of a “broken heart”. Firstly, how would Seton have been able to remove three leg traps from Lobo’s legs without being bitten. Then what happened ? Did Lobo volunteer to allow Seton, who had had just shot Blanca, to put a leash on Lobo and walk the 160-pound wolf calmly back to the cabin ? Highly doubtful. More than likely, Seton either left the wolf to die of cold and exposure where the wolf fell on the ground, or — Seton shot Lobo dead on the spot, as he had every single other wolf prior to that, and then made up the “romantic ending” of the wolf who died of a broken heart – thereby cynically collecting both the bounty he had worked for years to receive, and create a new career for himself as “Conservationist and Naturalist” — add to that mass exterminator for accuracy. What a cynical killer.

  • William Wagner

    Excellent piece! It is important to me to see an example of how protection of the environment was realized 100 years ago. I especially liked the comparison of a voice from then and now. Politics aside, it was an effective presentation. Thank you!

  • KH

    I thought this was an amazing story. A romantic tragedy.

  • Yvonne Bigney

    I thought this was an excellent show! As human’s we think we are the only species that can think/feel. As this show presented this is not so at all. Lobo loved his mate so much that he mourned for her and followed her even into death. It was a sad show, but one people should watch. I was glad to see that Mr. Seton put what he learned into good use environmentally. I pray that someday people will realize this earth is for all of us, animals & humans.

  • clay swartout

    great show.iwant a copy for my wildlife managment class.i am a hunter also and appreciate the respect seaton later developed for his quarry. thanks!

  • paul heidelberg

    very good show says writer paul heidelberg.

    lobo losing his normal cool quote unquote in search of his beloved blanca very good.

    this is interesting in light of current sports illustrated piece about a nature enhusiast being killed by a wolf in 2005….but this is very unusual.

    about 30 miles from downtown houston in 1965 was “wolf corner” where i saw, at one time, about 40 wolf pelts hanging from wolves area farmers had killed.

    i thought at the time it would have been better if these animals were still alive and running.

    is good lobo’s and blanca’s demise led to such ecological concerns…i kept waiting for the show to reveal that teddy roosevelt was affected by this story, and he was.

    a writer currently living in central texas, i saw a bald eagle last saturday, while journeying to my land in atascosa county, texas for the first time in a while. the quiet of this remote place fits into this program i watched the next day.

    i heard crows or ravens and one point, and a few crickets, other than that, nada.

    i have nature photos from the bavarian alps, etc. at
    http://www.paulheidelberg.smugmug.com
    taken just outside of mittenwald, including photos of a waterfall at the german/austrian border. (it was 25 degrees farenheit the morning i took these photos in september, 2008.

    “nature” program is always good, including the recent program about the cheetahs “adopted” by the filmmaker.

    ph

  • KB

    Mary and Deborah obviously missed the point of the program. It was not just about wolves, it was about the preservation of our wilderness and how it came to be via the wolves. I thought it was fantastic. Good work, Nature.

  • Nash

    It’s sickening to see someone like Kent Misegades saying it sounds like an another one of your lefty agendas. He sounds like a typical right wing fanatic that lacks the intelligence or the heart to appreciate life.

    The program was excellent and was extremely well done. Please continue to broadcast your programs and maybe post a notice for “Right Wing Fanatics” to leave the room or change the channel as it may be objectionable to them!

  • Patricia

    Nice show, heartbreaking and so very sad that over 100 years later we still have ignorant people on this planet who think that the only good animal is a DEAD one.
    Kent, what makes you “the expert” saying wolves are no longer endangered?! please…..
    It was nice to see emails from people that live along side wolves proving we can co-exist, we just need to respect each other.
    When will human beings realize we do not OWN this planet?

  • Joan Conroy

    Thank you for an excellent program. As a member of Defenders of Wildlife and other “lefty pinhead” organizations, I am happy to see that unlike Kent M., the vast majority of those commenting are opposed to the mindless and indescriminate slaughter of wolves. Throughout history these creatures have often been wrongly maligned by ignorant and fearful humans like those members of the NRA and other similar groups whose typical response to anything or anyone that they see as a problem is to destroy it. That Seton-Thompson was able to see the error of his ways despite great opposition, speaks to the fact that given the right circumstances, anyone’s mind can be changed and heart can be open to the fact that as Chief Seattle said; “whatever we do to the web of life, we do to ourselves.” Thanks to both PBS-Nature and to Dr. Doug Smith, the articulate wolf expert for this fine program.

  • David

    Excellent … thoroughly enjoyed every bit of the show!

  • Oakmoss

    This was a wonderful program and, although somewhat melodramatic, we were advised at the beginning that some of Seton’s writings may have been exagerrated. The only critique I have is no mention of Seton’s contemporaries who also played a large role in the infancy of the environmental movement, especially John Muir and Aldo Leopold (Leopold had a similar “conversion” after killing a wolf). The show almost sounded as if Seton began the conservation/preservation movements all on his own. Many other folks joined him in that work and it would have been nice if they’d been given their due credit.

  • tony rashid

    i thought it was GREAT ! back in a time when there was no technology , simple times , man and nature . Go to a place in this country where you can hear a wolf howl . I do , and its something special ! Good for the Soul ! Lobo was a typical , but not necessarily ordinary wolf . All wolves are charactorized as Mighty Hunters and Skilled Survivors . Our Ancestors faced Many Challenges in order to Survive . Just sit down and enjoy shows like this one , and walk away with something that you did’nt have before viewing it !

  • Chris

    In reference to the message a few posts ago: I also thought it was unusual that Lobo would have allowed Seton to approach him.

    The story “Lobo, King of the Currumpaw”, is apparently in public domain, and a web search will yield Seton’s original text. http://www.searchlit.org, story 7323, is the source I use:

    Seton states of Lobo: “For two days and two nights he had lain there, and now was worn out with struggling.” There was also another person present to help Seton. Lobo actually put up quite a fight. Lobo clamped his teeth down on Seton’s rifle barrel so hard that it left marks in the steel barrel. He also bit through Seton’s first lasso, so that Seton had to return to camp to get a second one. Seton lassoed Lobo, intended to strangle him to death, evidently because a rifle shot would have left a hole in the valuable pelt. At the last minute, it seems that Seton took pity. Lobo was bound with the lasso, with his mouth tied shut with a stick in it. Considering the trauma from the jaws of the traps, the long wait while being held in the trap, and the struggle with the men; it is my personal opinion that Lobo was in shock, near death already, and unable to put up further resistance.

    On another related note: In the film, there is an implication that Seton shot Blanca with his rifle, and that her end was quick and humane. Seton’s actual quote is really extremely disturbing: “We each threw a lasso over the neck of the doomed wolf, and strained our horses in opposite directions until the blood burst from her mouth, her eyes glazed, her limbs stiffened and then fell limp.” Is it possible the film’s producers glossed over this aspect of the story, possibly because it would show too brutal an image of Seton? It would seem different than the image of Seton projected in the film – a kindly animal-loving naturalist, repentant over his previous killing of animals.

  • Vince F

    I debated whether to watch the show, since I don’t believe in killing wild animals, unless it is necessary, but the Nature shows are always interesting and beautiful, and thought I might learn something that helps me understand why some states are killing wolves and have a bounty on them. I hadn’t thought that man Exterminating the bison in the US, and replacing them with cattle was why wolves preyed on the cattle, and easy target. The story was sad But had a happy ending, in how Seton felt, and what he started, in the Conservation movement, that led to the establishment of the national parks, so maybe a lot of good came from Lobo’s demise. Reminds me how the passing of Bart the Bear, encouraged the establishment of Vital Ground for bears and other wildlife. there is more to life than business and buildings. We Think we are better than and above Dumb animals, but they Ain’t So Dumb, and a person who can learn and see how We are ALL connected, the world would be a Much better place. The comments by the wolf experts was interesting. A show that PBS had on, Alone in the Wilderness, about a man who lived off the land in Alaska for 35yrs till he was 89 made me laugh, when he saw a wolf kill that they just left, and he said he lost a lot of respect for wolves, and they were Just Killers. Maybe they can’t go to the local food store when they get hungry, and kill what they can, and if they don’t eat it, other animals who can’t catch food, or haven’t succeeded, will have food.

    Sad but great show, As Always…

  • Kathy Michel

    What a beautiful love story. I live in Idaho where the ban on killing wolves was removed. Needless to say, the farmers are having a field day, literally, with the wolves. Maybe they should see this documentary and perhaps these laws, made by man, will be revoked and the ban reinstated. Thank You, PBS for bringing the TRUE nature of wolves to our attention

  • Helen

    I thought it was a very powerful presentation and the shots of wolves were my favorite part. But I am sorry I watched it and even sorrier I allowed my 8 1/2 year old child to watch it. I would suggest very strongly that if you show it again it should have a parental advisory. This is the first time we have ever had a problem with a Nature presentation and it was not the content or the message (both commendable) as its very powerful emotional effect. It’s one thing to read a story like this but quite another to see it. My child was devastated when Blanca was killed and when Lobo died — to the extent that she wasn’t able to get over it. I think the cruelty of what Seton did to them stunned her. Or perhaps it was just too graphic a presentation of the destructiveness of humans in general for her to take. It was a very well presented feature but may well be too “strong” for children.

  • Adrian

    Well done. I watched it by myself but will make sure to show it to my 9 year old. I want him to be hit by the emotional impact of it all. That is the whole point. If we allow ourselves to not feel for these animals, it will always remain easy to kill them. No disagreement with Helen regarding the parental guidance. Just my personal decision. Nobility, courage and commitment are always a good lesson even if it hurts. In fact, they often do!!

  • Daniel D.

    This show was even more amazing than past Nature programs. Senten has inspired me more, and I hope others will learn from this story. The restoration for wolves has been a hard one, especially for the Mexican Gray Wolves (who are critacly endangered), which I plan to conservate to parts of the U.S. Were they aren’t a treat.
    I respect Senten and Teddy Rosevelt for helping to establish conservation’s and national parks. So that this countries beauty can still be viewed by millions. The last thing I want, is human ingnorance on the matter that humans & animals can live together. We should learn from our ancestors mistakes, and help establish what they took away, and thank you PBS for another great series, I’m looking for another great one, next week.

  • John J. Wilson

    Wonderful History once again from PBS.The intentional wiping out of the Buffalo apparently led to the demize of two great species, American Indians and the Wolf. Both noble and courageous we certainly owe them their recompense.

  • Dan Johnson

    It is hard to believe that only two or three generations ago the public paid little attention to the destruction of wild life and in fact would often shoot bison from a train just to see them die. Perhaps instead of bashing the Natives, people could have learned from them how to live with nature.

  • Mike Bayne

    Wonderful touching show. Once again, Nature has hit one out of the park! Please,please keep up the good work.

  • Billy Wade

    Does this not show that man is the creator of his own destiny? We must be responsible for our actions and recognize that we are NOT the only species that matters. This earth was quite remarkable before we made it better. All our actions our for our own welfare and convenience.
    Excellent job PBS/KET keep up the good work!

  • Ann

    We found this show to be gut wrenching, but in a good way. Unlike Helen, I feel children should be exposed to this sort of programing. It opens up discussion about how important it is that we protect our wildlife. Many still don’t realize how intelligent animals are, not to mention important to the balance of nature. Life is hard for many animals and many humans, but it can be less so if we work together to make a difference. Thank you for this kind of programing.

  • Justin

    I love PBS, the posiability that can be embodied with our acess to the world. Growing up on AMERICA, The BBC, Nature, Cosmos with Carl Segan, the Big Blue Marble and the other shows that could expand the mind of a little boy from Kansas. OK You Left wingers go suck an egg, you won. You right wingers choke on your gall, senate elections in two years. This is a blog on the informativeness of this program and the only acess to noncommercial programs for a large portion of America. So it would likely be nice for all of us to attempt to set asside our preconceptions to see the world as it is and can be. We change the world by our choices and actions. Woried about children then sit with them and explain it. Worried about a skew then click your channel to your skew that you most like. So poo poo on you who dont want to think or discuss any thing off your agenda or talking points. Its a show about a guy and a wolf, and how you can do somthing that haunts you and changes your life. Will you let moments define you or will you define the monment by your action resulting from it. PBS thank you. It would be nice if you had a info link on your programs. I cant find the Seaton Library or the carrumpa in the NM desert. Can you look into a partnership with GOOGLE/ what ever engine you want for mapping, and some hyper links off the page with secondary acess to source material for the program.

  • Mae Denton

    After reading many of the above negative comments I need to say thank you. Thank you for showing the drama of Lobo, Blanc, and Seaton. It is needed in our country to remind us that we all are created by God and spirituality if not just possessed by man alone. If any one has ever owned a loving dog, they are aware of their intelligence and spiritual being. Wolves are especially important in our wilderness, they server their purpose in the circle of life. They have the right to be treated with dignity just as any other creature. I realize there will be times when killing a wolf can not be helped, but that should not be happening very often. Man has created the imbalance of the food supply, not the wolf.

  • Jaz MacMornna

    Some people are complaining about being “emotionally manipulated” by the show. They must not realize that people don’t come to care about something or someone without a deep emotional connection. All great movies, novels, plays, etc. succeed in large part because they give us an emotional wallop right in the heart.
    I don’t cry easy and I’m an embittered woman whose heart is scabbed over with scar tissue, yet this story moved me. I never knew what it was that set Seaton off on his crusade so I thank you for that information. As to the doubts that a wolf can die of a “broken heart”; it is a fact that many animals do pine themselves to death after losing a mate or being captured. Lobo suffered both and was injured besides.
    I don’t know why the cold hearted and the narrow minded even bother to watch Nature at all.
    Thank you, PBS, for this excellant show and most especially, this episode.

  • Brian Leith

    Gosh! What a reaction to the show! As the producer of ‘The Wolf that Changed America’ it’s been fascinating to read the various comments and reactions… I made this film because it made me sad when I read the story. It made me realize that, just like us, animals feel something very like love. They certainly feel devotion and a sense of family.
    The politics is incidental: surely anyone who is aware of this story – the depletion of wild animals and wilderness – repeated all over Europe and North America over the last couple of centuries – must feel a sense of loss? Imagine a world without the Currampah, without animals like Lobo… I’d rather not.
    Brian Leith, producer.

  • Rachel

    Thank you, Brian, for producing this wonderful episode of Nature. I cried for the state of our environment now, and mourned the wilderness we’ve lost. Although we’ve lost much, I still have hope.

  • Adrian

    Brian Leith, are you familiar with the Disney version of this story? This version affected me deeply as a child and has molded my attitude towards wolves and animals ever since. I would love to find a copy of this version to share with my younger kids. I have not had luck finding it. Any help would be welcome. Thanks

  • Brian Leith

    Hi Adrian
    yes, I saw the Disney version as part of the research for my production. I think many of those old Disney films – that I also recall from my own childhood – affected us deeply… the connections between man and nature run much deeper than I think we often realize.
    Regards
    Brian

  • Henry Kusaba

    A manificant and compelling story. It broke my heart and kept me awake all night. It affected me much like a love story with a sad ending. This courageous and noble creature that was the king of his empire and out smarted everyone with his wit and conning. He had no equal but it was all for not when he lost the love of his life. Its a wonder that hollywood has not taken this story and made a full length picture.

  • sandra davis lakeman

    some of the comments sent to date show that seton still has work to do. personally i was very moved by the production and want to applaud PBS and NATURE for this piece. it is strange that environmental concerns have become so politicized so i hope that perhaps this type of a program will engage those on the right that measure our country’s natural heritage in $$$$$. perhaps their children will convince them that the LIVES of wild animals are more valuable than money. we must all keep working towards the protection and preservation of our heritage and our childrens’ heritage.

  • LILLY

    it was ok i guess

  • P Blevins

    Powerful episode, if you have never been a hunter, a conservationist and a resident of New Mexico (as I am)then you may have no concept of the emotions that Ernest Thompson experienced. The places and animals he descibes exist today in our wilderness, I have seen them and they are truely magical. Please do not trivialize us. We are the ones maintaining the wild spaces and animals that you pretend to know and love.

  • alfred senior

    Thank you:
    I had tried to read Aminals I Have Known. Got bored because of Seaton presonification of Lobo In This program I meet the WOLF. I also relized that Seaton was a true naturalist of his time. It is only in the past 50 years that a bird record commity ac the acepet bird in the bush was as good as the bird in the hand. All the rural hunters I have meet are truly good observes of nature. i.e. Jeff a NFLDer shows my grandsons thing like the Snowy Owl [a big white owl. Nature study is feild time and men like Seaton where the true naturalist of their time.
    Alf

  • brayan

    on time iwas in iraq as soldier we where serving in hilla it’s province in iraq any way there was iraqi interpreter he used to work with us he was telling me about wolves he said there was a women in dark area he mean village and there was group of stupid guys they tried to rape the women and there was a wolf and he came and he killed all the guys …after that the police sent their detectives to ask the women few qustions the women said there was black WOLF coming to me and to guys that they where tried to rape me and he came she mean the WOLF and he saved my life and in the end she said when the WOLF gone she heared very loud howl maybe for 4 wolves

  • Sharon

    I loved this show. First I watched it alone, but recordeded it. The next day we all watched it as a family. My children were captivated by the story. I think it is a fascinating story to see how the hunter became sympathetic with his prey.

  • Audrey

    I throughly enjoyed the program about Seton and Lobo, the story touched me deeply. As a Literacy teacher, I read stories with my students about true love, true heroes and the glory and deep appreciation of nature. This great episode had everything I try to present my students every school day. I will definetly order the DVD and create a lesson plan to go with it. My students could only be richer for the experience. If only we could love our earth as much as that dear wolf loved his mate, how glorious would our world be!

  • Taher

    After reading your comments Kent Misegades I can see you belong in an insane asylum. Soon there ain’t going be any humans left either. You nut.

  • Mark

    I loved this show. On a visit to New Mexico 9 years ago I toured the J T Seaton Museum at Philmont Scout Ranch and saw Lobo’s pelt hanging on the wall without realizing the story behind it or Seaton. This show and my subsequent reading of “Animals I have Known” made a number of connections for me and took me back to my Boy Scout days in the 1960’s. As for the right wing vs left wing stuff everyone needs to cool it a bit. If I were a sheep or cattle rancher then or now who was losing livestock to reintroduced wolves I think I would resent people who don’t live in my shoes telling me what I should think. I also would not be happy with or want to see the killing of wolves like in Seaton’s time or today. The main issue is that because of Seaton and others we now do try to preserve wild places and animals. This will always create conflict and raise fairness issues. What I do know is that a practical solutions will not be found by people with extreme views on either side. The arrogance of both right and left is unbecomming and sad. I would remind the “preserve all wildlife at all costs” crowd that deadly virus and bacteria strains are life forms also, so see if you can undo your polio vaccine and give polio a chance. What were doctors in the 1950’s thinking!

  • Anna

    I love the show I think my favoriet part is when Seaton finds out what he did was wrong and I thought that the part that was interesting was when Lobo was so clever with the meat and and I was amazed at the transformation that seaton had with his opinion on wolves and I live in Lodi Ohio so there isn’t any wolves around here unforchanetly but my friends and Family really like wolves and think they are just like dogs but I think they are like us in alot of ways like they are really intellegent in some ways more so then us I think the show was amazing Bravo

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  • Ann

    I liked it a lot. I thought it was pretty interesting to watch.

  • RuralResident!

    The Romantic Fantasy & Fallacy of the beauty of returning wolves to the lower 48 states is imprudent. It is more likely to be a Sierra Club plot to destroy Hunting in America and make it more difficult for future generations to desire to exercise their second amendment right. There exists a direct correlation between the number of big game animals available, and the number of tags sold by lottery in each western state. Reintroduce a non-existent predator at the top of the food chain or web, and you decrease the sentient creatures available for humans to hunt.

    Doug Smith, PhD, said it accurately: and I paraphrase “It is in their nature for WOLVES TO KILL EVERYTHING IN THEIR SIGHT…” It is derelict at best to return wolves to the west without first returning Bison, Elk, and other large game for wolves to eat, at numbers that will sustain their packs. The romantic notion of wolves howling at the moon, sharing the earth with vampires, and only eating rodents for subsistence, drives the donations to non-profit organizations, funding an antagonist, vegan-agenda to those hunting large game for food.

  • Canil Azikiwe

    Dear Sir/Madam,
    I think that the show brings some good discussion points.
    These points allow us to establish a discussion which, if properly managed, is productive for any side
    (short- and long-term).
    I am currently back to Canada after 12 years of living in Brazil.
    In Brazil I bred Lion Hounds and I learned quite a bit about canine packs.
    Please, visit http://webspace.webring.com/people/cc/canil_azikiwe
    For family reasons (brand new grandchildren), I had to move back to my Canada.
    Your show reminded me of my pack and I could not hold those liquid drops falling from my eyes
    (even when I am 60).
    I am now surrounded by deer (my neighbors want to kill them all) and I understand that it is hard to change the views of some people towards preservation.
    Yes, people still like to fight bulls in Spain, kill animals for sport (e.g. jaguars in Brazil), etc.
    Not long ago, indigenous people (and other ethnic people) were also hunted for sport.
    Not long ago also, zoo and circus animals were caged in very constrained space.
    Today, many farm animals throughout the world are kept in ultra-constrained spaces
    I am pretty sure that 100 years from now, the ideas will be a bit different.
    I think that the internet and other social networks will help.
    Who knows…
    Maybe in 100 years it will be impossible to find people who adore Hitler, Stalin, Chairman Mao, etc.
    In summary, it is good to have a forum where one can vent the steam.
    Some ideas are hard to change within our life time
    (i.e. it takes more than 100 years for some ideas).
    Thanks for the opportunity to express my ideas.
    Canil Azikiwe

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