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	<title>Comments on: BLM Postpones Removal of Pryor Wild Horses</title>
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		<title>By: Deanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray I&#039;m sure was trying to get a reaction from everybody by making such ignorant comments. If in fact he is a biologist maybe he could shed some light on how the cattle destroy the habitat not these &quot;wild&quot; horses,but the government receives money from these so called &quot;well-fare&quot; ranchers who lease the land cheap from them, then the cattle strip it down to nothing. I guess that&#039;s ok since the government is being paid for the use of the land and all of the sudden the ecological balance doesn&#039;t matter! Wild horses will never out number the cattle grazing. Cattle are not smart enough to search or dig for water when obvious supplies are in question. Wild horses will dig for water and open up watering holes NOT for just themselves but other species they share the range with as well. Now lets talk ecological balance &quot;Mr. Bologist&quot;.When older horses get sick and new foals are born they replenish the food chain the way nature intended by becoming a prey animals meal. The left over carcass provides for other scavengers, birds ect...Although they may be &quot;feral&quot; as they were once domesticated imports rather than wild they have had a historical impact on our nation and explorers,pioneers as well as the battle field. Humans destroy the ecological balance daily with over population. Your Starving children are probaly imports as well just like so many of us and our grandparents and fore fathers. So why feed them rather than abolish them and keep their numbers down? Afterall at least the horses are providing for themselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray I&#8217;m sure was trying to get a reaction from everybody by making such ignorant comments. If in fact he is a biologist maybe he could shed some light on how the cattle destroy the habitat not these &#8220;wild&#8221; horses,but the government receives money from these so called &#8220;well-fare&#8221; ranchers who lease the land cheap from them, then the cattle strip it down to nothing. I guess that&#8217;s ok since the government is being paid for the use of the land and all of the sudden the ecological balance doesn&#8217;t matter! Wild horses will never out number the cattle grazing. Cattle are not smart enough to search or dig for water when obvious supplies are in question. Wild horses will dig for water and open up watering holes NOT for just themselves but other species they share the range with as well. Now lets talk ecological balance &#8220;Mr. Bologist&#8221;.When older horses get sick and new foals are born they replenish the food chain the way nature intended by becoming a prey animals meal. The left over carcass provides for other scavengers, birds ect&#8230;Although they may be &#8220;feral&#8221; as they were once domesticated imports rather than wild they have had a historical impact on our nation and explorers,pioneers as well as the battle field. Humans destroy the ecological balance daily with over population. Your Starving children are probaly imports as well just like so many of us and our grandparents and fore fathers. So why feed them rather than abolish them and keep their numbers down? Afterall at least the horses are providing for themselves!</p>
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		<title>By: Colette Mulhall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colette Mulhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cloud&#039;s herd is a tiny herd living on a large parcel of land. As experts have said, to maintain the health of a wild horse herd (prevent inbreeding), the herd must have 150 to 200 horses. Cloud&#039;s herd is numbered at 190. 
There are also no cattle grants in existence on Pryor Mountain so the argument that the horses &amp; cattle cannot co-exist is a nonentity. 
My other point as to why Cloud&#039;s herd must be left alone is that this specific herd has been followed for 20 years with documentaries produced about their lives, with another Cloud herd documentary being aired this November. Many of us have followed Cloud since he was born. He &amp; his herd have become world famous. My 13 yr. old son has followed their lives via these broadcasts since he was tiny. While studying the West in history class this past year, he researched the wild horses. From the mouth of a child, he concluded that they are a national treasure &amp; as he said, just as valuable as the Grand Canyon or the Niagara Falls. While learning about Lewis &amp; Clark,part way thru this past school year, he wrote a paper on the Cloud Herd &amp; how they came to be where they live,for the past 200 yrs. He talks about going on a vacation to be able to see this herd in their environment. How in God&#039;s name would I be able to explain to him that our government destroyed them after they lived there for 200 yrs. There is no viable explanation for this round up. The horses terrain is not shared with cattle, they are a small herd &amp; they have plenty of lush grass to eat, as evidenced by how healthy &amp; content these horses are. 
We have truly lost our humanity in this country. Any &amp; all excuses as to why this herd is being round up are ALL lies. How dare the BLM think we are that stupid. 
Colette</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cloud&#8217;s herd is a tiny herd living on a large parcel of land. As experts have said, to maintain the health of a wild horse herd (prevent inbreeding), the herd must have 150 to 200 horses. Cloud&#8217;s herd is numbered at 190.<br />
There are also no cattle grants in existence on Pryor Mountain so the argument that the horses &amp; cattle cannot co-exist is a nonentity.<br />
My other point as to why Cloud&#8217;s herd must be left alone is that this specific herd has been followed for 20 years with documentaries produced about their lives, with another Cloud herd documentary being aired this November. Many of us have followed Cloud since he was born. He &amp; his herd have become world famous. My 13 yr. old son has followed their lives via these broadcasts since he was tiny. While studying the West in history class this past year, he researched the wild horses. From the mouth of a child, he concluded that they are a national treasure &amp; as he said, just as valuable as the Grand Canyon or the Niagara Falls. While learning about Lewis &amp; Clark,part way thru this past school year, he wrote a paper on the Cloud Herd &amp; how they came to be where they live,for the past 200 yrs. He talks about going on a vacation to be able to see this herd in their environment. How in God&#8217;s name would I be able to explain to him that our government destroyed them after they lived there for 200 yrs. There is no viable explanation for this round up. The horses terrain is not shared with cattle, they are a small herd &amp; they have plenty of lush grass to eat, as evidenced by how healthy &amp; content these horses are.<br />
We have truly lost our humanity in this country. Any &amp; all excuses as to why this herd is being round up are ALL lies. How dare the BLM think we are that stupid.<br />
Colette</p>
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		<title>By: jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have both tapes of cloud and wonder why if they want to remove him take him to the pineridge reservation in south dakota - they have a herd of buffalo under protection of the lakota souix why not the mustang too - also do you think you could release cloude videos to animal planet where more people could see them - we have posted the petition from cloud foundation on facebook and every where to our friends online</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have both tapes of cloud and wonder why if they want to remove him take him to the pineridge reservation in south dakota &#8211; they have a herd of buffalo under protection of the lakota souix why not the mustang too &#8211; also do you think you could release cloude videos to animal planet where more people could see them &#8211; we have posted the petition from cloud foundation on facebook and every where to our friends online</p>
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		<title>By: roxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>roxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrote a blog earlier today - after doing what I said to do and researched some more - Ray you are WRONG!
Stop this madness. Sign the petition to save all the wild horses.

Sadly over the last 55 years greed has become so socially acceptable that all else is swept away, and certainly the wild horse population has paid a much too high price. 

These horses are OUR LEGACY as human beings.  Join the Cloud Foundation today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrote a blog earlier today &#8211; after doing what I said to do and researched some more &#8211; Ray you are WRONG!<br />
Stop this madness. Sign the petition to save all the wild horses.</p>
<p>Sadly over the last 55 years greed has become so socially acceptable that all else is swept away, and certainly the wild horse population has paid a much too high price. </p>
<p>These horses are OUR LEGACY as human beings.  Join the Cloud Foundation today!</p>
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		<title>By: roxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>roxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cloud and the mustang issue is so important and so complex.  Jerica, I love Cloud too! I just found the Cloud shows on-line, wish I had found them earlier. Waiting for the 3rd installment - I wish there would be another show every year!  I have the first 2 almost memorized - can&#039;t get enough!  I’m telling everyone to watch it!

I am 62 years old.  I met my wild horse &quot;Topper&quot; when I was in the first grade.  My uncle was a rancher hired to round-up wild horses (due to overpopulation, and probably to help out the cattle ranchers - they &quot;broke&quot; as many as they could, sold some, kept some, some went to rodeo, I&#039;m sure the rest went to slaughter).  My little mustang&#039;s mother had died and my uncle found them under a tree - no herd around.  Topper would have surely died had my uncle not been out there to find him.  My uncle nursed him and brought him to my grandparent’s farm - he was so little!  He lived a wonderful life, though not free to roam the mountains. Everyone loved him! Especially the neighboring breeders of purebreds.  They were over playing with him all the time until he died a ripe old age - what a personality he had!  

Ray is not wrong (except in his crassness along with some other bloggers - its easy when your not face to face - everyone, please stop the name calling). And Miranda you are right too - about &quot;every&quot; creature.

The folks at the BLM are just doing their jobs regulating, and in their hearts I am sure they believe they are doing the good and right thing.  Cattle ranching too is just a job and is here to stay, as is breeding purebred horses (how many of those are in animal rescue or put down by animal control?  Check that out for yourself!) – but can be driven by greed and profit with no balance in mind, unless regulated. 

As much as my heart wants to believe otherwise, I do know that nature does NOT always successfully regulate introduced species - introduced by humans.  So humans (we are the intelligent and capable species right?) have a responsibility to protect these mustangs, and to regulate them, because they do impact other living wild creatures, the land and the environment, and even cattle ranching.  The issue is how humane can we be, how fair can we be, how fiscally responsible can we be, how can we balance it all out?  Very complex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cloud and the mustang issue is so important and so complex.  Jerica, I love Cloud too! I just found the Cloud shows on-line, wish I had found them earlier. Waiting for the 3rd installment &#8211; I wish there would be another show every year!  I have the first 2 almost memorized &#8211; can&#8217;t get enough!  I’m telling everyone to watch it!</p>
<p>I am 62 years old.  I met my wild horse &#8220;Topper&#8221; when I was in the first grade.  My uncle was a rancher hired to round-up wild horses (due to overpopulation, and probably to help out the cattle ranchers &#8211; they &#8220;broke&#8221; as many as they could, sold some, kept some, some went to rodeo, I&#8217;m sure the rest went to slaughter).  My little mustang&#8217;s mother had died and my uncle found them under a tree &#8211; no herd around.  Topper would have surely died had my uncle not been out there to find him.  My uncle nursed him and brought him to my grandparent’s farm &#8211; he was so little!  He lived a wonderful life, though not free to roam the mountains. Everyone loved him! Especially the neighboring breeders of purebreds.  They were over playing with him all the time until he died a ripe old age &#8211; what a personality he had!  </p>
<p>Ray is not wrong (except in his crassness along with some other bloggers &#8211; its easy when your not face to face &#8211; everyone, please stop the name calling). And Miranda you are right too &#8211; about &#8220;every&#8221; creature.</p>
<p>The folks at the BLM are just doing their jobs regulating, and in their hearts I am sure they believe they are doing the good and right thing.  Cattle ranching too is just a job and is here to stay, as is breeding purebred horses (how many of those are in animal rescue or put down by animal control?  Check that out for yourself!) – but can be driven by greed and profit with no balance in mind, unless regulated. </p>
<p>As much as my heart wants to believe otherwise, I do know that nature does NOT always successfully regulate introduced species &#8211; introduced by humans.  So humans (we are the intelligent and capable species right?) have a responsibility to protect these mustangs, and to regulate them, because they do impact other living wild creatures, the land and the environment, and even cattle ranching.  The issue is how humane can we be, how fair can we be, how fiscally responsible can we be, how can we balance it all out?  Very complex.</p>
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		<title>By: jerica</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 23:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i loveclod</description>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 05:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,you&#039;re the exact problem. The world does not belong to us, and it does not belong to the horses. It belongs to every creature and NO ONE should be deciding the fate of these horses but nature itself. Capturing and slaughtering these animals is not the answer, and yet you seem to be monster promoting it. Get real. Get a life. Go continue hunting your precious animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,you&#8217;re the exact problem. The world does not belong to us, and it does not belong to the horses. It belongs to every creature and NO ONE should be deciding the fate of these horses but nature itself. Capturing and slaughtering these animals is not the answer, and yet you seem to be monster promoting it. Get real. Get a life. Go continue hunting your precious animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Riegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Riegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! What timing! I saw a special on the wild horses last night on history channel and discovered in reading your series. I have raised horses thru my twenties and now that children are gone and due to a back disability have had to turn to showing training and raising Labrador Retrievers. That too became too commercial and so not to add to the problem I only have two of my first pair of bred champions and a 2 yr old I adopted to train as a sevice companion dog. I am suprisingly getting better and all of the timing makes me think. If I had a horse it would def be a rescued mustang. Hopefully a mare in foal or a yearling wanting to raise it before it gets too big and powerful. I would have to board it but I cannot believe that the govt wants to shoot them. I have a friend celebrity who may be willing to help. In the opening shot of his movie, Billy Jack wild horses are herded into a corral to be shot for horse meat sale. It happens on a reservation and the character Billy Jack stops it. The actor Tom Laughlin I am sure and his wife would be interested to know all this and help. Please contact him at &quot;WWW.Billyjack.com&quot; Tell him Anne in Columbus Ohio told you to contact him. Just the opening shot of his film with him in front of it saying it was just a movie but now you he needs peoples help. I have worked in local TV for years and would be happy to contact any way I can I am of on disability and have nothing but free time on my hands now and am also a computer geek. So please let me know what I can do to help and please get in contact with Tom. I will call tomorrow to alert him. Anne Riegel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! What timing! I saw a special on the wild horses last night on history channel and discovered in reading your series. I have raised horses thru my twenties and now that children are gone and due to a back disability have had to turn to showing training and raising Labrador Retrievers. That too became too commercial and so not to add to the problem I only have two of my first pair of bred champions and a 2 yr old I adopted to train as a sevice companion dog. I am suprisingly getting better and all of the timing makes me think. If I had a horse it would def be a rescued mustang. Hopefully a mare in foal or a yearling wanting to raise it before it gets too big and powerful. I would have to board it but I cannot believe that the govt wants to shoot them. I have a friend celebrity who may be willing to help. In the opening shot of his movie, Billy Jack wild horses are herded into a corral to be shot for horse meat sale. It happens on a reservation and the character Billy Jack stops it. The actor Tom Laughlin I am sure and his wife would be interested to know all this and help. Please contact him at &#8220;WWW.Billyjack.com&#8221; Tell him Anne in Columbus Ohio told you to contact him. Just the opening shot of his film with him in front of it saying it was just a movie but now you he needs peoples help. I have worked in local TV for years and would be happy to contact any way I can I am of on disability and have nothing but free time on my hands now and am also a computer geek. So please let me know what I can do to help and please get in contact with Tom. I will call tomorrow to alert him. Anne Riegel</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie  ("~)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie  ("~)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
  I thought it would be all the buzz in this wite, but I couldn&#039;t find it.
   I heard some good news about wild horses. &quot;Madeleine Pickens, wife of billionaire T. Boone Pickens, made known her intentions to adopt not just the doomed wild horses but most or all of the 30,000 horses and burros kept in federal holding pens. &quot; I first heard about it on World News on TV and wanted to know more. I guess Bush took away a bunch of the land that the horses were on and 2,000 horses were about to be put down. 
  She wants to get about 1 million acres (larger than the state of RI!) for the horses. 
&quot;I see it as an eco-vacation spot,&quot; Pickens said. &quot;Could you imagine taking your kids there, staying on the range in log cabins or tepees? I love the idea of sharing it with the American people.&quot; 
  To read more click here: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11017788</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
  I thought it would be all the buzz in this wite, but I couldn&#8217;t find it.<br />
   I heard some good news about wild horses. &#8220;Madeleine Pickens, wife of billionaire T. Boone Pickens, made known her intentions to adopt not just the doomed wild horses but most or all of the 30,000 horses and burros kept in federal holding pens. &#8221; I first heard about it on World News on TV and wanted to know more. I guess Bush took away a bunch of the land that the horses were on and 2,000 horses were about to be put down.<br />
  She wants to get about 1 million acres (larger than the state of RI!) for the horses.<br />
&#8220;I see it as an eco-vacation spot,&#8221; Pickens said. &#8220;Could you imagine taking your kids there, staying on the range in log cabins or tepees? I love the idea of sharing it with the American people.&#8221;<br />
  To read more click here: <a href="http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11017788" rel="nofollow">http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11017788</a></p>
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		<title>By: lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very supportive of keeping wild horses in the wild. It&#039;s an important lesson for all of us. And let&#039;s be clear with ourselves: Humans are the ones over populating the earth. Not horses. If there weren&#039;t so many humans, there wouldn&#039;t be so many starving children. The problems are created by ourselves. And nature is going to be here whether we like it or not. I appreciate these animals, and wish to see them live freely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very supportive of keeping wild horses in the wild. It&#8217;s an important lesson for all of us. And let&#8217;s be clear with ourselves: Humans are the ones over populating the earth. Not horses. If there weren&#8217;t so many humans, there wouldn&#8217;t be so many starving children. The problems are created by ourselves. And nature is going to be here whether we like it or not. I appreciate these animals, and wish to see them live freely.</p>
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